Dunkirk - Christopher Nolan film

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warch

2,941 posts

156 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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I've just seen Dunkirk and I'm glad I ignored all the facile amateur criticisms of the film. I quite like the decision not to focus on characterisation, and focus on events. It came across as much more authentic to me. The film had real depth and explored issues like the hostility between soldiers of different countries and even different regiments. Not many films these days will become classics imo, this certainly will.

I didn't really care about inaccuracies like the choice of railway coach or the clearly post war destroyer in one scene, they're no more grating to the average viewer than the 'Tiger' in Saving Private Ryan.


Cobnapint

8,646 posts

153 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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Sorry, but the film just wasn't good enough to detract from the inaccuracies, many other films are. This has about as much chance of becoming a classic as Pearl Harbour.

Eric Mc

122,215 posts

267 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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Cobnapint said:
Sorry, but the film just wasn't good enough to detract from the inaccuracies,.
For you.

Cobnapint

8,646 posts

153 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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Eric Mc said:
Cobnapint said:
Sorry, but the film just wasn't good enough to detract from the inaccuracies,.
For you.
No, don't forget the missus.

warch

2,941 posts

156 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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Cobnapint said:
Sorry, but the film just wasn't good enough to detract from the inaccuracies, many other films are. This has about as much chance of becoming a classic as Pearl Harbour.
What inaccuracies or other things didn't you like about the film?

mikal83

5,340 posts

254 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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warch said:
Cobnapint said:
Sorry, but the film just wasn't good enough to detract from the inaccuracies, many other films are. This has about as much chance of becoming a classic as Pearl Harbour.
What inaccuracies or other things didn't you like about the film?
Have you got 20 minutes spare to read thru all of them!

Cobnapint

8,646 posts

153 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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warch said:
Cobnapint said:
Sorry, but the film just wasn't good enough to detract from the inaccuracies, many other films are. This has about as much chance of becoming a classic as Pearl Harbour.
What inaccuracies or other things didn't you like about the film?
I'm not going through all that again, read my previous posts. read

warch

2,941 posts

156 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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Fair enough, what page are they on?

Cobnapint

8,646 posts

153 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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warch said:
Fair enough, what page are they on?
Some of the ones before this one.

MXRod

2,758 posts

149 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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warch said:
I've just seen Dunkirk and I'm glad I ignored all the facile amateur criticisms of the film.
No more facile or amateur than your review .

Eric Mc

122,215 posts

267 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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Cobnapint said:
Eric Mc said:
Cobnapint said:
Sorry, but the film just wasn't good enough to detract from the inaccuracies,.
For you.
No, don't forget the missus.
I went with some nerdy fellow scale model builders (the worst nit pickers you can come across) and we all enjoyed it.

warch

2,941 posts

156 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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MXRod said:
warch said:
I've just seen Dunkirk and I'm glad I ignored all the facile amateur criticisms of the film.
No more facile or amateur than your review .
What, because I can see past the use of an incorrect railway carriage, or a destroyer with an enclosed bridge or planes with yellow nose cones or too much ammunition?

Obvious troll is obvious.

Cobnapint

8,646 posts

153 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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warch said:
MXRod said:
warch said:
I've just seen Dunkirk and I'm glad I ignored all the facile amateur criticisms of the film.
No more facile or amateur than your review .
What, because I can see past the use of an incorrect railway carriage, or a destroyer with an enclosed bridge or planes with yellow nose cones or too much ammunition?

Obvious troll is obvious.
I could have seen past the errors if the film grabbed me by the goolies, dragged me in and kept me there for a couple of hours. But it didn't even try.

Darkest Hour on the other hand......

warch

2,941 posts

156 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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Cobnapint said:
I could have seen past the errors if the film grabbed me by the goolies, dragged me in and kept me there for a couple of hours. But it didn't even try.

Darkest Hour on the other hand......
Only an hour and forty minutes long, but I take the point that it could be hard to emotionally invest in the characters, because we are told almost nothing about them. I liked that but I can understand that other people might not.

I don't mind that some people didn't like the film, but it does seem some people's rationale for disliking it is based on fairly trivial reasons.

mikal83

5,340 posts

254 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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warch said:
Cobnapint said:
I could have seen past the errors if the film grabbed me by the goolies, dragged me in and kept me there for a couple of hours. But it didn't even try.

Darkest Hour on the other hand......
Only an hour and forty minutes long, but I take the point that it could be hard to emotionally invest in the characters, because we are told almost nothing about them. I liked that but I can understand that other people might not.

I don't mind that some people didn't like the film, but it does seem some people's rationale for disliking it is based on fairly trivial reasons.
Trivial, are you feckin joking..............it was a mess start to finish

Cobnapint

8,646 posts

153 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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warch said:
Cobnapint said:
I could have seen past the errors if the film grabbed me by the goolies, dragged me in and kept me there for a couple of hours. But it didn't even try.

Darkest Hour on the other hand......
Only an hour and forty minutes long....
I was including the adverts, even they were crap........ hehe

MXRod

2,758 posts

149 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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warch said:
MXRod said:
warch said:
I've just seen Dunkirk and I'm glad I ignored all the facile amateur criticisms of the film.
No more facile or amateur than your review .
What, because I can see past the use of an incorrect railway carriage, or a destroyer with an enclosed bridge or planes with yellow nose cones or too much ammunition?

Obvious troll is obvious.
Interesting,so anyone who disagrees with you or you disagree with is a troll ,what a closed mind you have

Eric Mc

122,215 posts

267 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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Cobnapint said:
I was including the adverts, even they were crap........ hehe
Were they advertising booze cruises to Dunkirk?

If not, they missed a trick.

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 6th February 2018
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Noticed this review from last year by an historian, sums it up well for me, being one of the best films I have ever seen,

https://www.gq.com/story/dunkirk-according-to-a-du...

'I was very, very impressed by the film, I have to say. I suppose it would be possible, if I really put my mind to it, to nitpick about certain things. But they really would be such small things. I did not find that there were many things that were wrong. At no point did I say, "Well, that just looks totally wrong and doesn't correspond to anything that happened."'

The analogy of saving private Ryan, which is lauded is interesting.

' Partly because you would think looking at it that the British and the Canadians had not been part of D-Day. Whereas in fact, on the first day three-quarters of the soldiers who were landed on the beach, I think were either British or Canadian'.

warch

2,941 posts

156 months

Wednesday 7th February 2018
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Six Figs said:
Noticed this review from last year by an historian, sums it up well for me, being one of the best films I have ever seen,

https://www.gq.com/story/dunkirk-according-to-a-du...

'I was very, very impressed by the film, I have to say. I suppose it would be possible, if I really put my mind to it, to nitpick about certain things. But they really would be such small things. I did not find that there were many things that were wrong. At no point did I say, "Well, that just looks totally wrong and doesn't correspond to anything that happened."'
That's how I felt about it, I was really impressed with the air of realism. Obviously there were things that were altered for the sake of narrative convention, the timescale of the evacuation was compressed and there are some compound characters but then that goes for all historical films.