Grand Designs - 4th March
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It reminds me of the Homebase next to the gasworks in St Albans. It even has a similar mezzanine.
Loved the roof shape but as a home it leaves me cold. And I like straight staircases; spirals smack of lack of space and 'trendy' but unusable second homes. Whether or not they're self-supporting; just because it's quite a nice design doesn't mean it's right.
The kitchen could have been nice, if it had proper knobs on the drawers rather than cutouts.
And that gate - would it prevent a sheep getting out? Well, maybe, but it still looked awful.
Loved the roof shape but as a home it leaves me cold. And I like straight staircases; spirals smack of lack of space and 'trendy' but unusable second homes. Whether or not they're self-supporting; just because it's quite a nice design doesn't mean it's right.
The kitchen could have been nice, if it had proper knobs on the drawers rather than cutouts.
And that gate - would it prevent a sheep getting out? Well, maybe, but it still looked awful.
Best of the series, best i've seen for a couple of series in fact. He was decent, honest and unpretentious and I think it showed in the final result, even if, as others have said it looks a tad austere right now. How he puts up with the air-headed crayon waving Mrs Barnbuild is beyond me, clearly not even Kevin would touch her.
Really liked the kitchen and the Kalzip roof and suspect his study/office will be great when done
Really liked the kitchen and the Kalzip roof and suspect his study/office will be great when done
cardigankid said:
Skywalker said:
outnumbered said:
"Health Centre".
Good call. It isn't very homely is it?
The staircase was a beautiful shape for sure, but it would have been so much nicer "wood" coloured - though it didn't really help that it looked like it was made mostly of filler!
Overall, i thought it was a good concept ruined by lots of horrible colours/finishes/furniture. The woman was a weirdo too.
I liked it.
And if Mrs Airhead-crayonwaver is any good at selling the art she presents in her Gallery, she will be making quite a comfortable living. Its not unusual for a gallery to take 50-60% of the sticker price of an "artwork"
ETA, i thoguth the siting of the garage was odd. It seemed to disrupt the original barn (the gallery) and the new building to me, I thoguht it needed to be towards the back of the plot.
ETFA. I want a go on the floor polisher thingy.....
And if Mrs Airhead-crayonwaver is any good at selling the art she presents in her Gallery, she will be making quite a comfortable living. Its not unusual for a gallery to take 50-60% of the sticker price of an "artwork"
ETA, i thoguth the siting of the garage was odd. It seemed to disrupt the original barn (the gallery) and the new building to me, I thoguht it needed to be towards the back of the plot.
ETFA. I want a go on the floor polisher thingy.....
Edited by scotal on Thursday 5th March 09:30
Not too bad, but nor great either.
Thought the zinc roof was a nice feature. I actually liked it when they stained the wood grey to tone it down as I think orange coloured wood looks really harsh and fights with most other colours you'd want to use inside. Not liking the concrete floor (hope they don't have any dogs or they'll be skidding around like hell on that) or the bedrooms which felt like they'd have very little privacy. Interior styling and fittings were a bit bland and didn't add much to lift the look inside. Staircase seemed a nice idea, but can't believe they paid a boat-builder £40k to make it from laminated wood and then painted it white? I was expecting them to veneer it once in-situ. Surely it'd be cheaper to have had this made from concrete or steel if they intended it to have a painted finish? Kitchen looked like a lot of work for nothing particularly special. The gate was s
t as was the 'custom made' sofa which had the worse fitting cushions I've seen for a long time.
Seemed that the bloke did all the work while the wife just ponced around with her crayons and talked about 'artisans' a lot. House looked ok from a distance and sat well with the other farm buildings and the landscape, but had the feel of a car showroom close-up. Fair play for getting it built without any real issues at the same time as running a farm though. Also nice that there was no mention of 'carbon neutral' or 'eco' for a change.
Thought the zinc roof was a nice feature. I actually liked it when they stained the wood grey to tone it down as I think orange coloured wood looks really harsh and fights with most other colours you'd want to use inside. Not liking the concrete floor (hope they don't have any dogs or they'll be skidding around like hell on that) or the bedrooms which felt like they'd have very little privacy. Interior styling and fittings were a bit bland and didn't add much to lift the look inside. Staircase seemed a nice idea, but can't believe they paid a boat-builder £40k to make it from laminated wood and then painted it white? I was expecting them to veneer it once in-situ. Surely it'd be cheaper to have had this made from concrete or steel if they intended it to have a painted finish? Kitchen looked like a lot of work for nothing particularly special. The gate was s
t as was the 'custom made' sofa which had the worse fitting cushions I've seen for a long time.Seemed that the bloke did all the work while the wife just ponced around with her crayons and talked about 'artisans' a lot. House looked ok from a distance and sat well with the other farm buildings and the landscape, but had the feel of a car showroom close-up. Fair play for getting it built without any real issues at the same time as running a farm though. Also nice that there was no mention of 'carbon neutral' or 'eco' for a change.
SJobson said:
r1chardb said:
Oh, but the gallery next door looked like an absolutely stunning building.
That's true - wouldn't it have worked better using the existing gallery building as a house, and having the new build as a funky gallery?Maybe the planners would only allow construction of a house as it can be tied to the land, whereas a new gallery would have been a commercial building in an AONB??
Maybe the gallery space didnt work as a house?
TedMaul said:
Really liked ... the Kalzip roof
That's not Kalzip, that's a zinc system they form on site from scratch as you saw. Kalzip is a preformed aluminium standing seam panel system ('Kaiser ALuminium'). It looked good, but I was a little surprised they could just curve it like that, I would have imagined the seams would buckle. I admit I haven't investigated it.scotal said:
SJobson said:
wouldn't it have worked better using the existing gallery building as a house, and having the new build as a funky gallery?
Maybe change of use wasn't forthcoming.Maybe the planners would only allow construction of a house as it can be tied to the land, whereas a new gallery would have been a commercial building in an AONB??
Maybe the gallery space didnt work as a house?
cardigankid said:
TedMaul said:
Really liked ... the Kalzip roof
That's not Kalzip, that's a zinc system they form on site from scratch as you saw. Kalzip is a preformed aluminium standing seam panel system ('Kaiser ALuminium'). It looked good, but I was a little surprised they could just curve it like that, I would have imagined the seams would buckle. I admit I haven't investigated it.cardigankid said:
TedMaul said:
Really liked ... the Kalzip roof
That's not Kalzip, that's a zinc system they form on site from scratch as you saw. Kalzip is a preformed aluminium standing seam panel system ('Kaiser ALuminium'). It looked good, but I was a little surprised they could just curve it like that, I would have imagined the seams would buckle. I admit I haven't investigated it.scotal said:
I don't think they'd really moved in by the end of the show.
Last snippet was dated February 2009 so you have to imagine they rushed the last bit to finish the show, rather than for the sake of a few fixtures and fittings, holding it over until the next series.TedMaul said:
Ah ok, apologies, I thought Kalzip could be formed on site too, didn't realise it was shipped preformed.
No need to apologise, we're all pals here. Most of us anyway.I'm sure you can curve Kalzip, and it is sealed with a very similar machine, but it comes as pre formed panel. If you can bend a straight on on site, it will only be to a very large radius. I'm not sure how it works with the rolls of virgin zinc like they had last night.
Steamer said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Announced pregnancy in 5, 4, 3, 2..........
I think that would be more of a miracle project than completing the house on budget!
Liked the house, liked the efficiency of the process, hell of a risk with pre-ordering the windows, liked the staircase but thought it looked more dramatic in its "as delivered" state than the finished article.
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