Radio 1

[Matt_N]

StevieBee said:

PHmember said:

Everytime I hear it, it just seems to be shouty chav crap interspersed with God-awful music. I can actually feel my IQ lowering as I'm listening to it.

Say this very thing to my Daughter whenever I hear her listening to Radio 1.

I then recall my Dad saying exactly the same to me whenever I used to listen to Radio 1.

I remember thinking that Radio 2 is only for old people.

My Daughter is of the same view.

I now listen to Radio 2 (as well as 6 Music and Planet Rock)

Edited by StevieBee on Friday 10th September 16:59

Radio 2 is just as bad though.

I've turned into my Dad and listen to Radio 4 during my journey to work for the news, then a CD for the journey home.

[thebluebus]

A lot of PH posters are probably out of the target demographic for Radio 1 anyway.

Complaining that Newsbeat is dumbed down is a bit like bemoaning the superficial character development displayed in The Hungry Caterpillar.

If you prefer Radio 4, it doesn't make Radio 1 rubbish - it just means it's not for you.

[monthefish]

thebluebus said:

A lot of PH posters are probably out of the target demographic for Radio 1 anyway.

Complaining that Newsbeat is dumbed down is a bit like bemoaning the superficial character development displayed in The Hungry Caterpillar.

I disagree. Just because somebody is young, doesn't mean that thay are automatically stupid.

[thebluebus]

monthefish said:

thebluebus said:

A lot of PH posters are probably out of the target demographic for Radio 1 anyway.

Complaining that Newsbeat is dumbed down is a bit like bemoaning the superficial character development displayed in The Hungry Caterpillar.

I disagree. Just because somebody is young, doesn't mean that thay are automatically stupid.

But while from the perspective of someone who would prefer to listen to their news presented in a Radio 4 format, Newsbeat might seem over-simplified, it might hit just the right level to give the gist of the news to a teenager who listens to the radio to hear some tunes and have a bit of a laugh.

While I sometimes grit my teeth at the Newbeat presentation, it does put over headlines in a simple, bitesize way. If you want in-depth news analysis, even if you're a teenager, you can listen to more detailed things.

So I still agree with myself.

If you've got the hunger for more sophisticated news, complaining that Newsbeat doesn't give it to you just means it's not really aimed at you.

[monthefish]

thebluebus said:

monthefish said:

thebluebus said:

A lot of PH posters are probably out of the target demographic for Radio 1 anyway.

Complaining that Newsbeat is dumbed down is a bit like bemoaning the superficial character development displayed in The Hungry Caterpillar.

I disagree. Just because somebody is young, doesn't mean that thay are automatically stupid.

But while from the perspective of someone who would prefer to listen to their news presented in a Radio 4 format, Newsbeat might seem over-simplified, it might hit just the right level to give the gist of the news to a teenager who listens to the radio to hear some tunes and have a bit of a laugh.

While I sometimes grit my teeth at the Newbeat presentation, it does put over headlines in a simple, bitesize way. If you want in-depth news analysis, even if you're a teenager, you can listen to more detailed things.

So I still agree with myself.

If you've got the hunger for more sophisticated news, complaining that Newsbeat doesn't give it to you just means it's not really aimed at you.

The issue is that it has been 'dumbed down' to the lowest denominator of their (rather wide) demographic, and comes across as something that is targeted for 10-15 year olds.

It's not like bemoaning the superficial character development displayed in The Hungry Caterpillar.

[thebluebus]

monthefish said:

thebluebus said:

monthefish said:

thebluebus said:

A lot of PH posters are probably out of the target demographic for Radio 1 anyway.

Complaining that Newsbeat is dumbed down is a bit like bemoaning the superficial character development displayed in The Hungry Caterpillar.

I disagree. Just because somebody is young, doesn't mean that thay are automatically stupid.

But while from the perspective of someone who would prefer to listen to their news presented in a Radio 4 format, Newsbeat might seem over-simplified, it might hit just the right level to give the gist of the news to a teenager who listens to the radio to hear some tunes and have a bit of a laugh.

While I sometimes grit my teeth at the Newbeat presentation, it does put over headlines in a simple, bitesize way. If you want in-depth news analysis, even if you're a teenager, you can listen to more detailed things.

So I still agree with myself.

If you've got the hunger for more sophisticated news, complaining that Newsbeat doesn't give it to you just means it's not really aimed at you.

The issue is that it has been 'dumbed down' to the lowest denominator of their (rather wide) demographic, and comes across as something that is targeted for 10-15 year olds.

It's not like bemoaning the superficial character development displayed in The Hungry Caterpillar.

Not even a bit like?

[anonymous-user]

monthefish said:

The issue is that it has been 'dumbed down' to the lowest denominator of their (rather wide) demographic, and comes across as something that is targeted for 10-15 year olds.

Errr.....it is targeted for 10-15 year olds.
Agree with the dumbing down bit though. If the Nation's yoof were regarded more as people and less like an iPhone they might stop acting likes tts.

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 13th September 14:57

[JonRB]

Crossflow Kid said:

Errr.....it is targeted for 10-15 year olds.

Don't be ridiculous. Of course it isn't and you know it.

Edit: The BBC state that the target audience of Radio 1 is 15-29
See http://www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/statements2010/ra...

Edited by JonRB on Monday 13th September 15:08

[anonymous-user]

JonRB said:

Crossflow Kid said:

Errr.....it is targeted for 10-15 year olds.

Don't be ridiculous. Of course it isn't and you know it.

Edit: The BBC state that the target audience of Radio 1 is 15-29
See http://www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/statements2010/ra...

Edited by JonRB on Monday 13th September 15:08

29?! Twenty fking nine? Jesus H Titty-fking Christ. And the argument is "Newsbeat isn't too stoopid for its listeners"? What species of twenty nine year old listens to news reports that start: "Yesterday, that's like before you last went to sleep, a policeman, or "Rozzer" as locals here call them, said they were looking for a bad man who'd done a really bad thing to someone, or the "victim" to use official police slang. If you're affected by this story or just want to rack up a phone bill with no concept of cost, call our helpline to talk to that smug Irish doctor we keep on the books"

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 13th September 15:17

[JonRB]

Crossflow Kid said:

29?! Twenty fking nine? Jesus H Titty-fking Christ. And the argument is "Newsbeat isn't too stoopid for its listeners"? What species of twenty nine year old listens to news reports that starts: "Yesterday, that's like before you last went to sleep, a policeman, or "Rozzer" as locals here call them, said they were looking for a bad man who'd done a really bad thing to someone, or the "victim" to use official police slang. If you're affected by this story or just want to rack up a phone bill with no concept of cost, call our helpline to talk to that smug Irish doctor we keep on the books"

So listen to another radio station then, grandad.

As someone else already said, it's designed to merely whet the appetite. There is such a wealth of information available in the internet that anyone wanting more depth can get easily get it.

Personally I think Radio1 should dispense with news altogether, but it's probably in the BBC Charter that they have to provide it.

[anonymous-user]

JonRB said:

Crossflow Kid said:

29?! Twenty fking nine? Jesus H Titty-fking Christ. And the argument is "Newsbeat isn't too stoopid for its listeners"? What species of twenty nine year old listens to news reports that starts: "Yesterday, that's like before you last went to sleep, a policeman, or "Rozzer" as locals here call them, said they were looking for a bad man who'd done a really bad thing to someone, or the "victim" to use official police slang. If you're affected by this story or just want to rack up a phone bill with no concept of cost, call our helpline to talk to that smug Irish doctor we keep on the books"

So listen to another radio station then, grandad.

As someone else already said, it's designed to merely whet the appetite. There is such a wealth of information available in the internet that anyone wanting more depth can get easily get it.

Personally I think Radio1 should dispense with news altogether, but it's probably in the BBC Charter that they have to provide it.

I'd go with the idea of them doing away with it altogether. The idea of the chavalry living in ignorance is far more preferable to them believing in the World According to Newsbeat.

[thebluebus]

Crossflow Kid said:

JonRB said:

Crossflow Kid said:

29?! Twenty fking nine? Jesus H Titty-fking Christ. And the argument is "Newsbeat isn't too stoopid for its listeners"? What species of twenty nine year old listens to news reports that starts: "Yesterday, that's like before you last went to sleep, a policeman, or "Rozzer" as locals here call them, said they were looking for a bad man who'd done a really bad thing to someone, or the "victim" to use official police slang. If you're affected by this story or just want to rack up a phone bill with no concept of cost, call our helpline to talk to that smug Irish doctor we keep on the books"

So listen to another radio station then, grandad.

As someone else already said, it's designed to merely whet the appetite. There is such a wealth of information available in the internet that anyone wanting more depth can get easily get it.

Personally I think Radio1 should dispense with news altogether, but it's probably in the BBC Charter that they have to provide it.

I'd go with the idea of them doing away with it altogether. The idea of the chavalry living in ignorance is far more preferable to them believing in the World According to Newsbeat.

I confess I thought the target demographic was younger than that.

Perhaps 15-22 or so.

Nonetheless it still provides something that a lot of people do want to listen to. And the BBC still provide a lot of higher-brow alternatives for those who want to distance themselves from the proles.

But even the BBC telly 10 o'clock news comes across as fatuous sometimes. And I'm not even clever.

[anonymous-user]

thebluebus said:

Crossflow Kid said:

JonRB said:

Crossflow Kid said:

29?! Twenty fking nine? Jesus H Titty-fking Christ. And the argument is "Newsbeat isn't too stoopid for its listeners"? What species of twenty nine year old listens to news reports that starts: "Yesterday, that's like before you last went to sleep, a policeman, or "Rozzer" as locals here call them, said they were looking for a bad man who'd done a really bad thing to someone, or the "victim" to use official police slang. If you're affected by this story or just want to rack up a phone bill with no concept of cost, call our helpline to talk to that smug Irish doctor we keep on the books"

So listen to another radio station then, grandad.

As someone else already said, it's designed to merely whet the appetite. There is such a wealth of information available in the internet that anyone wanting more depth can get easily get it.

Personally I think Radio1 should dispense with news altogether, but it's probably in the BBC Charter that they have to provide it.

I'd go with the idea of them doing away with it altogether. The idea of the chavalry living in ignorance is far more preferable to them believing in the World According to Newsbeat.

I confess I thought the target demographic was younger than that.

Perhaps 15-22 or so.

Nonetheless it still provides something that a lot of people do want to listen to. And the BBC still provide a lot of higher-brow alternatives for those who want to distance themselves from the proles.

But even the BBC telly 10 o'clock news comes across as fatuous sometimes. And I'm not even clever.

Me neither. What does fatuous mean? Is that like obese?

[thebluebus]

Crossflow Kid said:

thebluebus said:

Crossflow Kid said:

JonRB said:

Crossflow Kid said:

29?! Twenty fking nine? Jesus H Titty-fking Christ. And the argument is "Newsbeat isn't too stoopid for its listeners"? What species of twenty nine year old listens to news reports that starts: "Yesterday, that's like before you last went to sleep, a policeman, or "Rozzer" as locals here call them, said they were looking for a bad man who'd done a really bad thing to someone, or the "victim" to use official police slang. If you're affected by this story or just want to rack up a phone bill with no concept of cost, call our helpline to talk to that smug Irish doctor we keep on the books"

So listen to another radio station then, grandad.

As someone else already said, it's designed to merely whet the appetite. There is such a wealth of information available in the internet that anyone wanting more depth can get easily get it.

Personally I think Radio1 should dispense with news altogether, but it's probably in the BBC Charter that they have to provide it.

I'd go with the idea of them doing away with it altogether. The idea of the chavalry living in ignorance is far more preferable to them believing in the World According to Newsbeat.

I confess I thought the target demographic was younger than that.

Perhaps 15-22 or so.

Nonetheless it still provides something that a lot of people do want to listen to. And the BBC still provide a lot of higher-brow alternatives for those who want to distance themselves from the proles.

But even the BBC telly 10 o'clock news comes across as fatuous sometimes. And I'm not even clever.

Me neither. What does fatuous mean? Is that like obese?

Kind of.

You know those hideous women you see on programmes like My Embarrassing Fanjita on channel 4? The one with the llama-faced doctor.

Those women?

They're fatuous.

[monthefish]

Crossflow Kid said:

JonRB said:

Crossflow Kid said:

Errr.....it is targeted for 10-15 year olds.

Don't be ridiculous. Of course it isn't and you know it.

Edit: The BBC state that the target audience of Radio 1 is 15-29
See http://www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/statements2010/ra...

Edited by JonRB on Monday 13th September 15:08

29?! Twenty fking nine? Jesus H Titty-fking Christ. And the argument is "Newsbeat isn't too stoopid for its listeners"? What species of twenty nine year old listens to news reports that start: "Yesterday, that's like before you last went to sleep, a policeman, or "Rozzer" as locals here call them, said they were looking for a bad man who'd done a really bad thing to someone, or the "victim" to use official police slang. If you're affected by this story or just want to rack up a phone bill with no concept of cost, call our helpline to talk to that smug Irish doctor we keep on the books"

Edited by Crossflow Kid on Monday 13th September 15:17

No, the argument is that newsbeat is "too stoopid for its listeners".

Edited by monthefish on Monday 13th September 17:10

[GTO Scott]

Switched over from R1 to R2 when John Peel died. I find R1 childish. R2 isn't without fault (Steve Wright is in dire need of replacement & the Drivetime slot needs someone with more personality than Simon Mayo), but it's much better. I want to listen to 6 Music sometimes, but the works vehicles can't recieve DAB.

[thebluebus]

monthefish said:

Crossflow Kid said:

JonRB said:

Crossflow Kid said:

Errr.....it is targeted for 10-15 year olds.

Don't be ridiculous. Of course it isn't and you know it.

Edit: The BBC state that the target audience of Radio 1 is 15-29
See http://www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/statements2010/ra...

Edited by JonRB on Monday 13th September 15:08

29?! Twenty fking nine? Jesus H Titty-fking Christ. And the argument is "Newsbeat isn't too stoopid for its listeners"? What species of twenty nine year old listens to news reports that start: "Yesterday, that's like before you last went to sleep, a policeman, or "Rozzer" as locals here call them, said they were looking for a bad man who'd done a really bad thing to someone, or the "victim" to use official police slang. If you're affected by this story or just want to rack up a phone bill with no concept of cost, call our helpline to talk to that smug Irish doctor we keep on the books"

Edited by Crossflow Kid on Monday 13th September 15:17

No, the argument is that newsbeat [b]is[/i] "too stoopid for its listeners".

Or possibly, listeners who feel Newsbeat is too thick for them would be better-served listening to something else more intelligent for their news, instead of using it as a rod to beat a station clearly not aimed at them.

[anonymous-user]

[Daily Mail]Yeah? Still my license fee though, innit?[/Daily Mail]

[thebluebus]

Crossflow Kid][Daily Mail said:

Yeah? Still my license fee though, innit?[/Daily Mail]

Not for BBC radio, apparently.

[monthefish]

thebluebus said:

monthefish said:

Crossflow Kid said:

JonRB said:

Crossflow Kid said:

Errr.....it is targeted for 10-15 year olds.

Don't be ridiculous. Of course it isn't and you know it.

Edit: The BBC state that the target audience of Radio 1 is 15-29
See http://www.bbc.co.uk/aboutthebbc/statements2010/ra...

Edited by JonRB on Monday 13th September 15:08

29?! Twenty fking nine? Jesus H Titty-fking Christ. And the argument is "Newsbeat isn't too stoopid for its listeners"? What species of twenty nine year old listens to news reports that start: "Yesterday, that's like before you last went to sleep, a policeman, or "Rozzer" as locals here call them, said they were looking for a bad man who'd done a really bad thing to someone, or the "victim" to use official police slang. If you're affected by this story or just want to rack up a phone bill with no concept of cost, call our helpline to talk to that smug Irish doctor we keep on the books"

Edited by Crossflow Kid on Monday 13th September 15:17

No, the argument is that newsbeat is "too stoopid for its listeners".

Or possibly, listeners who feel Newsbeat is too thick for them would be better-served listening to something else more intelligent for their news, instead of using it as a rod to beat a station clearly not aimed at them.

1. I live in the West of Scotland. There isn't a huge choice of Radio stations (with a decent signal) in this part of the world, and Radio 1 is the only station which plays (some) music to my tastes.

2. I don't 'get my news' from Radio 1 for the reasons given already, but I do believe I am part of their 'target audience'.

I don't understand your point.