Speed with Guy Martin - new series

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marshall100

1,124 posts

203 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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Great TV, Guy has MASSIVE balls. Crashes the bike and seems totally unfazed by it, and you've only got to listen to the people talking about how hard it is to pull off to get some sense of it's difficulty.

I don't know how he finds time to do it all, Moody is the boss of legend it would seem...

hairykrishna

13,233 posts

205 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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That was some top quality television. It was also a significant contrast with the other two episodes. A competent, well resourced, team going after a record that a number of other competent teams are also competing to break. The growing relief and amazement from the US team as it became apparent that the funny talking PR dream driver that Triumph had foisted on them was actually bloody good at this stuff was nice to see.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

241 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
Balancing act?...so, just like any other two wheel vehicle then?
What's the big deal?
It took him thirty minutes to master what the original rider took a week to achieve smile

Munter

31,319 posts

243 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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Max_Torque said:
Anyone know if gyroscopic balancing is allowed in the 2 wheeled class??

(Its seems like staying upright is the hardest problem!)
Clearly I'm not an engineer. But...don't the wheels have a gyroscopic effect?

zeb

3,212 posts

220 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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marshall100 said:
Great TV, Guy has MASSIVE balls. Crashes the bike and seems totally unfazed by it, and you've only got to listen to the people talking about how hard it is to pull off to get some sense of it's difficulty.

I don't know how he finds time to do it all, Moody is the boss of legend it would seem...
watch his crash at IOM or UGP, he definately used up one of his 9 lives there. He probably feels if he got away with that then anything bonneville threw at him was do-able

marshall100

1,124 posts

203 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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I'm not sure you'll ever see him back at the IOM following some of the comments after his first run at speed. Saying it was like winding the clock back 10 years is a pretty bold statement. Maybe he's found his new favourite thing....?

slybynight

391 posts

123 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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When people say gyroscopes on this thread, surely they are talking piezo Gyros (as in RC heli's and the like) to control steering actuators, as opposed to stonking huge iron disks, no?

The Surveyor

7,578 posts

239 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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It was a great program and I especially loved his description of a usual accident... "sky, tarmac, sky, tarmac, ambulance"

hairykrishna

13,233 posts

205 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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slybynight said:
When people say gyroscopes on this thread, surely they are talking piezo Gyros (as in RC heli's and the like) to control steering actuators, as opposed to stonking huge iron disks, no?
Why not stonking great iron disks? Something like the Lit C-1 concept with two heavy-ish, very fast, gyros and it'd be basically impossible to tip over.

skeggysteve

5,724 posts

219 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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jsf said:
...Looks like the team he is working with are top notch though...
Err, the brakes failed at towing speed and the drive shaft broke the first time under power, then they couldn't find a fault with an engine/electricals.

Not sure I agree with you jsf!

The Surveyor said:
It was a great program and I especially loved his description of a usual accident... "sky, tarmac, sky, tarmac, ambulance"
Agree, it was a very good program and I must admit the 'sky, tarmac...' made my laugh.
Guy is not like us normal people!

I was a bit surprised that they made no mention of Bert Munro (The Worlds fastest Indian) although I'm sure did see his bike in one clip.

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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skeggysteve said:
jsf said:
...Looks like the team he is working with are top notch though...
Err, the brakes failed at towing speed and the drive shaft broke the first time under power, then they couldn't find a fault with an engine/electricals.

Not sure I agree with you jsf!

The Surveyor said:
It was a great program and I especially loved his description of a usual accident... "sky, tarmac, sky, tarmac, ambulance"
Agree, it was a very good program and I must admit the 'sky, tarmac...' made my laugh.
Guy is not like us normal people!

I was a bit surprised that they made no mention of Bert Munro (The Worlds fastest Indian) although I'm sure did see his bike in one clip.
Brake failure at towing speed is actually not that surprising the first time guy was in the bike. The brakes on these kinds of vehicles are very susceptible to overheating as they have very little/no airflow for cooling.

The most likely scenario was that guy was dragging the brakes a little without knowing it, which would very quickly elevate the temperatures.

The brakes do very little to slow the vehicle, the initial deceleration is by backing off the power and letting the aero drag slow the vehicle, you then deploy the parachute which pulls most of the speed off, the brakes then get used once the aero drag has diminished.

Usually, when you lose a parachute at Bonneville, you are looking at massive stopping distances because the brakes are so poor, because they are so compromised on cooling.

The whole feel of the team looked right to me, sure they had teething problems but that's going to happen on a project like this. The whole approach of the team looked professional, they all clearly liked Guy too, with lots of pats on the back.

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 10th October 2016
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marshall100 said:
I'm not sure you'll ever see him back at the IOM following some of the comments after his first run at speed. Saying it was like winding the clock back 10 years is a pretty bold statement. Maybe he's found his new favourite thing....?
Could well be, it's the sort of project that is all consuming. The driver I know broke a series of records that had stood for the previous 45 years.

generationx

6,979 posts

107 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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The best bit of all was the race debrief section:

Team boss: "Anyone have any comments at all?"

<<Silence>>

Guy Martin: "Not enough tea, we ran out yesterday"

A man with excellent priorities.

Mr E

21,794 posts

261 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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I was struck by the difference in management styles between this land speed team and the Le Mans team that Chris Hoy was involved with.

And of course the size of Mr Martin's massive balls.

coopedup

3,741 posts

141 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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Good series for the majority, any ideas what he is up to next?

MC Bodge

22,019 posts

177 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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I was impressed by Guy's calm response to the bike fish-tailing.

The team appeared to be rate him too.

An excellent programme.

ooo000ooo

2,550 posts

196 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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Munter said:
Clearly I'm not an engineer. But...don't the wheels have a gyroscopic effect?
The front wheel was small, I thought it wouldn't have much gyroscopic effect. Didn't see the back wheel although the rear on the other bike looked huge? Maybe it doesn't matter at high speed but compromised them at low speeds.

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

214 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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I imagine the front wheel is limited in size due to not wanting to increase the frontal area, plus the fact that the rider/driver has legs. I imagine the rear wheel is limited by space too.

foxsasha

1,417 posts

137 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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Great piece of TV, thsi is what Guys hsould be doing, this is the stuff of legends. The crap with the balloon and boat is plain embarrassing in comparison and really doesn't sit with Guys persona.

Mr E said:
I was struck by the difference in management styles between this land speed team and the Le Mans team that Chris Hoy was involved with.

And of course the size of Mr Martin's massive balls.
+1, highly stressed atmosphere in Chris's team, laid back take it in their stride attitude in Guys team.


e21Mark

16,231 posts

175 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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Anyone seen the video of BMW's latest concept bike? It keeps itself balanced at all times.