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ali_kat said:
Butter Face said:
We haven't actually heard Ned recounting the story so don't know exactly how he told it...
In the books (A Clash of Kings) when we first meet Jojen & Meera it's at a Harvest feast held by Bran when they come to renew House Reed's fealty to the King in the North (Rob). Bran recalls his father telling him the Kingsguard were once a shining example, and the finest knight he ever saw was Ser Arthur Dayne, who would have killed him but for Howland Reed. His father became sad at that and spoke no further, but now Bran wishes he had asked what he meant.
have them on the kindle at the moment
ZesPak said:
Butter Face said:
https://youtu.be/KBRfThQIZYo?t=4m7s
He obviously never mentioned Dayne getting a knife through the throat, he says he was told Ned beat him, when he didn't really.
He didn't even say he was told he beat him. There's no one left standing but them two, it's a fight to the death and Brandon is one of the results of his father not dying that day. So Brandon pulls the conclusion his father surely must've beaten him.He obviously never mentioned Dayne getting a knife through the throat, he says he was told Ned beat him, when he didn't really.
I do 'get' the Ned character a bit, but I think it's a bit hypocritical to attack one guy with 4 without any problems, then when he gets stabbed from behind he goes all nobel on him.
So the thinking is that the Faith Militant found the Hound before he died, bring him back to KL, and he's ready to be the FM champion in trial by combat?
I suppose nursing him back to health may be the reason they've not progressed the trial further. There's been a couple of comments about why the delay this season hasn't there?
I suppose nursing him back to health may be the reason they've not progressed the trial further. There's been a couple of comments about why the delay this season hasn't there?
Sway said:
So the thinking is that the Faith Militant found the Hound before he died, bring him back to KL, and he's ready to be the FM champion in trial by combat?
I suppose nursing him back to health may be the reason they've not progressed the trial further. There's been a couple of comments about why the delay this season hasn't there?
I suppose nursing him back to health may be the reason they've not progressed the trial further. There's been a couple of comments about why the delay this season hasn't there?
The Faith Militant are under the control of the High Septon (High Sparrow); they are the ones that you see guarding him.
The FM are far more likely to kill The Hound on sight than rescue and bring him back to health.
Lancel Lannister is the most likely FM Champion as he has already pledged himself to the High Septon, has a grudge against Cersei and is in King's Landing.
It's just too complicated and wide ranging to enjoy if I try to follow everything that's going on and keep up with all the characters. Example above: someone mentioned Lacel Lannister. WTF? Who he? No idea. People and Houses and places and countries keep springing up out of nowhere. Just can't hold down my job, run my household and enjoy some time off if I try to keep up with everything in this show.
So, I'm just going to enjoy it as a bit of escapism every week and hope for boobs.
So, I'm just going to enjoy it as a bit of escapism every week and hope for boobs.
ali_kat said:
Lancel Lannister is the most likely FM Champion as he has already pledged himself to the High Septon, has a grudge against Cersei and is in King's Landing.
I hope not. Aside from splitting the Lannisters I can't see him doing much. Who is suspected of curing the Hound in the books- is he a red priest or the Seven?I also wonder if Cersei's acess to Varys' spies will be the downfall of Littlefinger. In KL they were both good at finding the dirt on each other, but it was very much a cold war.
At first I thought it would be Varys at threat from Quyburn, but Cersei specifically mentioned a whole lot of places, none of them in Essos.
Edited by glazbagun on Tuesday 10th May 14:02
glazbagun said:
ali_kat said:
Lancel Lannister is the most likely FM Champion as he has already pledged himself to the High Septon, has a grudge against Cersei and is in King's Landing.
I hope not. Aside from splitting the Lannisters I can't see him doing much. Who is suspected of curing the Hound in the books- is he a red priest or the Seven?We don't know, hints are dropped that the Hound survived and now makes a living as a gravedigger at a monastery, where he has supposedly found some kind of inner peace; but also that he is dead; and we know that one of the Brave Companions took the dog helm from his grave site, and was responsible for keeping the dear of The Hound alive by his actions
If The Hound IS coming back, it is a much better guarded secret than Jon Snow's return Rory hasn't even been spotted in Ireland, let alone on the set.
SilverSixer said:
It's just too complicated and wide ranging to enjoy if I try to follow everything that's going on and keep up with all the characters. Example above: someone mentioned Lacel Lannister. WTF? Who he? No idea. People and Houses and places and countries keep springing up out of nowhere. Just can't hold down my job, run my household and enjoy some time off if I try to keep up with everything in this show.
So, I'm just going to enjoy it as a bit of escapism every week and hope for boobs.
Lancel is the one that Cersei was fking whilst Jamie was away - he was one of King Robert's squires; more importantly the one that gave Robert the wine that killed him So, I'm just going to enjoy it as a bit of escapism every week and hope for boobs.
I would counter your 'its to complicated to follow' with - what is the point of watching if you don't pay attention?
Rogue86 said:
blueg33 said:
You guys need better tv's. Perfectly visible on my old but in its time top of the range, Panasonic CRT.
It's a brand new 4k/3D Bravia... Picture is perfect on everything else which is why I resent changing the brightness levels just for GoT!ali_kat said:
SilverSixer said:
It's just too complicated and wide ranging to enjoy if I try to follow everything that's going on and keep up with all the characters. Example above: someone mentioned Lacel Lannister. WTF? Who he? No idea. People and Houses and places and countries keep springing up out of nowhere. Just can't hold down my job, run my household and enjoy some time off if I try to keep up with everything in this show.
So, I'm just going to enjoy it as a bit of escapism every week and hope for boobs.
Lancel is the one that Cersei was fking whilst Jamie was away - he was one of King Robert's squires; more importantly the one that gave Robert the wine that killed him So, I'm just going to enjoy it as a bit of escapism every week and hope for boobs.
I would counter your 'its to complicated to follow' with - what is the point of watching if you don't pay attention?
Is it OK if I just enjoy the show in my own way rather then hiving off 2/3rds of my ever-diminishing brain power remembering details? Cheers.
SilverSixer said:
ali_kat said:
walm said:
Violence and nudity.
You mean tits & dragons surely So swearing, reason 5.
ali_kat said:
Sway said:
So the thinking is that the Faith Militant found the Hound before he died, bring him back to KL, and he's ready to be the FM champion in trial by combat?
I suppose nursing him back to health may be the reason they've not progressed the trial further. There's been a couple of comments about why the delay this season hasn't there?
I suppose nursing him back to health may be the reason they've not progressed the trial further. There's been a couple of comments about why the delay this season hasn't there?
The Faith Militant are under the control of the High Septon (High Sparrow); they are the ones that you see guarding him.
The FM are far more likely to kill The Hound on sight than rescue and bring him back to health.
Lancel Lannister is the most likely FM Champion as he has already pledged himself to the High Septon, has a grudge against Cersei and is in King's Landing.
Best way to create the one on one combat in this scenario is trial by combat. Currently, we've seen no one in the Faith Militant who would stand up to the Frankenmountain for 5 seconds. So it all comes down to who's going to be the FM champion to make it a worthwhile T-by-C.
That delay of the trial has enabled the Frankenmountain to be available to Cersei. They've gotta have something in the bank, as the High Sparrow doesn't seem too fussed and it's pretty obvious that this is the route she'll take...
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