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Caddyshack

11,009 posts

208 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Jimbo. said:
DonkeyApple said:
It's an Italian sports car. Luggage in the passenger seat and get the concierge to deliver a woman once at the hotel?
Berlusconi, is that you?!
Nah, he equips want a woman delivered more than once.

E90_M3Ross

35,175 posts

214 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Venisonpie said:
I love it.

The looks, the badge, the name, the pano roof, the simple interior (screen aside) the soft suspension setting, the way it goes. The weight is bonkers, I really don't like heavy cars but I can forgive this one. The luggage space is not a biggie - as someone who's toured in an Elise and an Alpine you just pack accordingly.

The price is unnecessary.
Why do you feel you can forgive this one for its weight? Given the price tag and lack of size etc it seems utterly unforgivable to me.

It's over 300kgs heavier than the V8 powered McLaren with a folding roof which has even more power.

Edited by E90_M3Ross on Tuesday 14th November 08:25

Venisonpie

3,330 posts

84 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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E90_M3Ross said:
Venisonpie said:
I love it.

The looks, the badge, the name, the pano roof, the simple interior (screen aside) the soft suspension setting, the way it goes. The weight is bonkers, I really don't like heavy cars but I can forgive this one. The luggage space is not a biggie - as someone who's toured in an Elise and an Alpine you just pack accordingly.

The price is unnecessary.
Why do you feel you can forgive this one for its weight? Given the price tag and lack of size etc it seems utterly unforgivable to me.

It's over 300kgs heavier than the V8 powered McLaren with a folding roof which has even more power.

Edited by E90_M3Ross on Tuesday 14th November 08:25
For all the reasons mentioned. I appreciate a Mclaren very much and would take one over a Ferrari but I just love this.

Bas Jaski

449 posts

195 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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I do love Maserati's, I think the MC20 looks excellent but wtf...that weight is insane. No real storage space, either.

And 300K.

For the same money and same/better performance...F8 anyone?

Personally I'd actually look for something from 360 to 458 (hell, for the MC20 money you can have a 458 or 360 + a 550 or 599...whatever floats your boat). I know it's not like for like but standing in the Maserati dealership I couldn't possible get that thought out of my head. More involving, emotional cars.

rodericb

6,821 posts

128 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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E90_M3Ross said:
Sway said:
Mazinbrum said:
520TORQUES said:
LeighW said:
£300k and it displays electrical gremlins when you corner hard. laugh

Not aimed at this particular car, but I really wish manufacturers would stop putting most if not all controls on a touch screen. What's wrong with knobs and buttons that you can intuitively reach for without taking your eyes off the road? It may just be me getting old, but still.
They shouldn't be allowed to pass type approval if normal everyday functions require you to take your eyes off the road.
Check out the new Volvo EX30, great little car but you need to go into the menus on the screen to adjust the mirrors!
That, I'm fine with. Adjusting mirrors is something that happens pretty much exactly once in my ownership of a car.
What about the fact you need to do the same to turn the fog lights on?
That's okay - he's fine with that too as turning the fog lights on happens pretty much exactly once in his ownership of a car.....when he hops in it for the first time. hehe

Wills2

23,191 posts

177 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Bas Jaski said:
And 300K.

For the same money and same/better performance...F8 anyone?
For 300k new I'd go 296 GTS (poverty spec obvs with only 20k worth of options which probably just means a choice of colour)





NDA

21,716 posts

227 months

Tuesday 14th November 2023
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Dr Interceptor said:
The MC20 is a strange one - why on earth would you design the car to have no luggage space at all? You couldn't even take it to a hotel in the country for a one night stay without having to have your bags in the cabin with you.
I did several European road trips in my Ford GT (with a passenger) - which has no luggage space at all other than a tiny space under the front bonnet. It is possible and you just compromise for the fun of the car. smile

I was a month in Provence last year in a +8 + passenger. Limited space there too.

heebeegeetee

28,919 posts

250 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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Sway said:
That, I'm fine with. Adjusting mirrors is something that happens pretty much exactly once in my ownership of a car.
I think that makes it worse, if its something you rarely there's little chance of remembering which sub menu this basic tax lies in.

I agree with other comments, screens with sub menus shouldn't be passing any form of type approval for a motor car.

I noticed the very 1st thing Harry pressed on the screen, it didn't work and he had to press it twice.
I also recall his test on a Golf R, while trying to adjust the heater fan speed while passing through Burford High St, the screen doesn't work first swipe and he has to press again.

We have a Fiat Ducato, the infotainment doesn't have a volume knob, which is bloody frustrating. Just simply adjusting the volume requires a prooer eyes off road moment as i look to see if the volume is adjusting or not, because the switches in place of the knob are bloody slow and hit and miss.

520TORQUES

4,889 posts

17 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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I use the mirror adjust regularly when parking in a tight spot to help lign up on the box perfectly. Looking at the state of most car parks, most dont.

thegreenhell

15,705 posts

221 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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520TORQUES said:
I use the mirror adjust regularly when parking in a tight spot to help lign up on the box perfectly. Looking at the state of most car parks, most dont.
Yes indeed. And that leads on to another bugbear of modern tech, although it doesn't afflict the Maserati in this case - cameras instead of door mirrors. With a mirror you can simply move your head to get a different viewpoint if you need without even adjusting the mirror angle, but a camera is fixed.

AstonZagato

12,764 posts

212 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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thegreenhell said:
520TORQUES said:
I use the mirror adjust regularly when parking in a tight spot to help lign up on the box perfectly. Looking at the state of most car parks, most dont.
Yes indeed. And that leads on to another bugbear of modern tech, although it doesn't afflict the Maserati in this case - cameras instead of door mirrors. With a mirror you can simply move your head to get a different viewpoint if you need without even adjusting the mirror angle, but a camera is fixed.
Agreed - a huge retrograde step. The issue I have is that I wear bifocals. My distance vision can flick from looking at the road to looking at the rear view mirror with no adjustment. That is not the case with cameras/screens. I drove the new range rover with the central rear view mirror on a camera and couldn't use it - a glance up just gaveme a blut. I had to raise my head so I could look through the bottom half of my glasses. Utterly stupid.

epom

11,674 posts

163 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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So its a no for the Maserati so ? Haven't seen this yet, not sure I'll watch it either. Seems that Maserati haven't been paying much attention.

ChocolateFrog

25,875 posts

175 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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epom said:
So its a no for the Maserati so ? Haven't seen this yet, not sure I'll watch it either. Seems that Maserati haven't been paying much attention.
Maserati in my head make cars that will be £10k in 10 years where you can swallow some brave pills and have a bit of fun. How much was the one Wheeler Dealers bought? Not much IIRC.

You'd have to be bonkers (not necessarily in a bad way) to buy one of these over the competition.

But variety is the spice of life.

SydneyBridge

8,708 posts

160 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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I thought this might be the one for the MA4ER plate, but no....

Dr Interceptor

7,833 posts

198 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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NDA said:
Dr Interceptor said:
The MC20 is a strange one - why on earth would you design the car to have no luggage space at all? You couldn't even take it to a hotel in the country for a one night stay without having to have your bags in the cabin with you.
I did several European road trips in my Ford GT (with a passenger) - which has no luggage space at all other than a tiny space under the front bonnet. It is possible and you just compromise for the fun of the car. smile

I was a month in Provence last year in a +8 + passenger. Limited space there too.
In fairness, I'd forgive a Ford GT for absolutely anything. It could incinerate my balls during every journey for all i care... they are just sublime things. I'd have the luggage forward shipped with DHL...

The Maserati just doesn't have the same appeal.

Caddyshack

11,009 posts

208 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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SydneyBridge said:
I thought this might be the one for the MA4ER plate, but no....
M4SER


SydneyBridge

8,708 posts

160 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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Caddyshack said:
M4SER
Thank you, what an idiot (me..)

Speed 3

4,668 posts

121 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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Just caught up with it and my lord what is that for £300k ? Harry seemed to be in very forgiving mode. It's crap on the inside, engine sounds horrible and its far removed from what I think of as a Maserati. Makes me think the Emira is a thing of genius for a third of that price even with some Maserati (old school) flaws.

DonkeyApple

55,977 posts

171 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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It's a very pretty car but you really can't see why they are asking what they are for it.

thegreenhell

15,705 posts

221 months

Wednesday 15th November 2023
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Has it got some gold bars where the future hybrid battery will go? That would account for both the weight and the price.