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I used to watch it when it was Ed but can't stand his replacement, too poncy and false.
Ed was not perfect (or bad editing).
He did a TR6 and was taking the head off, he marked the plug leads to make sure they kept in order but it showed him putting tape on some random vent hose. Then he took the 'twin carbs' off, er would that be the injection system Ed?.
Silly errors.
Ed was not perfect (or bad editing).
He did a TR6 and was taking the head off, he marked the plug leads to make sure they kept in order but it showed him putting tape on some random vent hose. Then he took the 'twin carbs' off, er would that be the injection system Ed?.
Silly errors.
Hi
Ive been recently downloading the latest episodes of WD shown in the US. Cars so far have been Audi S4, Porsche 4x4, Datsun. Great cars but like how Edd's behaviour towards the end of his partnership used to question Mike about his choices and sort of have a go at him, well Ant is now doing this far more and its horrible. The 3 latest shows Ive seen their conversations is painful to watch, like some mechanic's version of Larrel and Hardy. It dilutes the quality of the show and you cant help bet feel embrassed for them.
Great car choices but they need to seriously stop this stupid comedy dynamics. They even now try to add comedy scenes where they edit the show to pretend there are two sets of each other, one set dressed in black, and some form of banter. It's just awful.
I respect Ant as a mechanic but I really dont like him, there is something about him that just doesnt click with me.
The format is starting to become a little stretched now, played out. I reckon Youtube shows like Car Throttle are far more enjoyable.
SBK
Ive been recently downloading the latest episodes of WD shown in the US. Cars so far have been Audi S4, Porsche 4x4, Datsun. Great cars but like how Edd's behaviour towards the end of his partnership used to question Mike about his choices and sort of have a go at him, well Ant is now doing this far more and its horrible. The 3 latest shows Ive seen their conversations is painful to watch, like some mechanic's version of Larrel and Hardy. It dilutes the quality of the show and you cant help bet feel embrassed for them.
Great car choices but they need to seriously stop this stupid comedy dynamics. They even now try to add comedy scenes where they edit the show to pretend there are two sets of each other, one set dressed in black, and some form of banter. It's just awful.
I respect Ant as a mechanic but I really dont like him, there is something about him that just doesnt click with me.
The format is starting to become a little stretched now, played out. I reckon Youtube shows like Car Throttle are far more enjoyable.
SBK
sbk1972 said:
Hi
Ive been recently downloading the latest episodes of WD shown in the US. Cars so far have been Audi S4, Porsche 4x4, Datsun. Great cars but like how Edd's behaviour towards the end of his partnership used to question Mike about his choices and sort of have a go at him, well Ant is now doing this far more and its horrible. The 3 latest shows Ive seen their conversations is painful to watch, like some mechanic's version of Larrel and Hardy. It dilutes the quality of the show and you cant help bet feel embrassed for them.
Great car choices but they need to seriously stop this stupid comedy dynamics. They even now try to add comedy scenes where they edit the show to pretend there are two sets of each other, one set dressed in black, and some form of banter. It's just awful.
But that's exactly the direction the US TV people want to take the show - its entertainment, not about cars, cars are just a side show to the entertainment.Ive been recently downloading the latest episodes of WD shown in the US. Cars so far have been Audi S4, Porsche 4x4, Datsun. Great cars but like how Edd's behaviour towards the end of his partnership used to question Mike about his choices and sort of have a go at him, well Ant is now doing this far more and its horrible. The 3 latest shows Ive seen their conversations is painful to watch, like some mechanic's version of Larrel and Hardy. It dilutes the quality of the show and you cant help bet feel embrassed for them.
Great car choices but they need to seriously stop this stupid comedy dynamics. They even now try to add comedy scenes where they edit the show to pretend there are two sets of each other, one set dressed in black, and some form of banter. It's just awful.
No different to all the fake crap on the other TV shows like Overhaulin, Arse Monkey Garage, Sin City Motors, etc., and even Kindig, where you have to put up with the stupidity interviews of shop foreman Kevin.
The reasons for the success of WD in the UK, are the very reasons for its downfall. TV people don't want to make TV shows for nerdy car people.
aeropilot said:
cologne2792 said:
I can't see Edd making a basic mistake like that.
Mr China wasn't immune to making the odd error with factoids in the past.But, people need to remember Wheeler Dealers now is written and produced by Americans for Americans, using a couple of 'old geezers' to front it.... well, one old gezzer at least.
Not having seen the episode, USA Capri's were 2.8 Cologne V6 engines weren't they....?
sgtBerbatov said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
I guess we'll never know the real reason.
Well someone further back on this thread pointed out that only one of them has committed the story to print and that's Ed. If he had lied etc, given that there is clear animosity between them, they'd have been in court by now.So I would think that Ed's recollection is what happened, especially as Brewer's let the Lard Lad doughnuts go to his head and keeps changing his tune about it.
randomeddy said:
I used to watch it when it was Ed but can't stand his replacement, too poncy and false.
Ed was not perfect (or bad editing).
He did a TR6 and was taking the head off, he marked the plug leads to make sure they kept in order but it showed him putting tape on some random vent hose. Then he took the 'twin carbs' off, er would that be the injection system Ed?.
Silly errors.
IIRC, the USA export TR6 had carburettors.Ed was not perfect (or bad editing).
He did a TR6 and was taking the head off, he marked the plug leads to make sure they kept in order but it showed him putting tape on some random vent hose. Then he took the 'twin carbs' off, er would that be the injection system Ed?.
Silly errors.
gareth_r said:
randomeddy said:
I used to watch it when it was Ed but can't stand his replacement, too poncy and false.
Ed was not perfect (or bad editing).
He did a TR6 and was taking the head off, he marked the plug leads to make sure they kept in order but it showed him putting tape on some random vent hose. Then he took the 'twin carbs' off, er would that be the injection system Ed?.
Silly errors.
IIRC, the USA export TR6 had carburettors.Ed was not perfect (or bad editing).
He did a TR6 and was taking the head off, he marked the plug leads to make sure they kept in order but it showed him putting tape on some random vent hose. Then he took the 'twin carbs' off, er would that be the injection system Ed?.
Silly errors.
But this wasn't in the USA, and it was blindingly obvious it had Lucas injection.
gareth_r said:
aeropilot said:
They did.
But this wasn't in the USA, and it was blindingly obvious it had Lucas injection.
Good to know that the scripts and editing have been consistently rubbish over so many years. But this wasn't in the USA, and it was blindingly obvious it had Lucas injection.
LordLoveLength said:
Long way to go to beat the Peugeot 205 ‘gear linkage’ problem that caused smoke to pour out under the car!
As a GTI owner myself whenever i see that one i always have a good 
especially when the parcel shelf gets given a coat of black body paint from a spray can.Shame the prices / availability of genuine parts (both new & used) isn't the same as it was back then
CAPP0 said:
sgtBerbatov said:
Clockwork Cupcake said:
I guess we'll never know the real reason.
Well someone further back on this thread pointed out that only one of them has committed the story to print and that's Ed. If he had lied etc, given that there is clear animosity between them, they'd have been in court by now.So I would think that Ed's recollection is what happened, especially as Brewer's let the Lard Lad doughnuts go to his head and keeps changing his tune about it.
Hah hah.....have the TV on while doing some other stuff, and WD is on Quest at the moment, with the episode done in the USA where Brewer buys the Sunbeam Alpine and is bigging up the connection with James Bond and its use in Dr. No......and when it arrives in the garage he opens the bonnet for Edd, and Edd spots the Brabham valve cover saying this could be a genuine Brabham engine conversion, and Brewer mentions that Brabham was the person responsible for putting the V8 engine in the Alpine and creating the Tiger 
Brewer you useless tit....... I think even my old Granny knew it was Carroll Shelby that created the Tiger.
Brewer you useless tit....... I think even my old Granny knew it was Carroll Shelby that created the Tiger.
aeropilot said:
Hah hah.....have the TV on while doing some other stuff, and WD is on Quest at the moment, with the episode done in the USA where Brewer buys the Sunbeam Alpine and is bigging up the connection with James Bond and its use in Dr. No......and when it arrives in the garage he opens the bonnet for Edd, and Edd spots the Brabham valve cover saying this could be a genuine Brabham engine conversion, and Brewer mentions that Brabham was the person responsible for putting the V8 engine in the Alpine and creating the Tiger
Brewer you useless tit....... I think even my old Granny knew it was Carroll Shelby that created the Tiger.
I was intruiged so did a little digging. Well, I googled it and read the Wikipedia page anyway. Brewer you useless tit....... I think even my old Granny knew it was Carroll Shelby that created the Tiger.
It looks like Brabham did have some initial involvement, including making the initial proposal, but ultimately it was Shelby who did the work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunbeam_Tiger
That doesn't make Brewer right and you wrong, by the way, I'm just saying that it looks like Brabham's name was indeed associated with the Tiger in some way.
Clockwork Cupcake said:
aeropilot said:
Hah hah.....have the TV on while doing some other stuff, and WD is on Quest at the moment, with the episode done in the USA where Brewer buys the Sunbeam Alpine and is bigging up the connection with James Bond and its use in Dr. No......and when it arrives in the garage he opens the bonnet for Edd, and Edd spots the Brabham valve cover saying this could be a genuine Brabham engine conversion, and Brewer mentions that Brabham was the person responsible for putting the V8 engine in the Alpine and creating the Tiger
Brewer you useless tit....... I think even my old Granny knew it was Carroll Shelby that created the Tiger.
I was intruiged so did a little digging. Well, I googled it and read the Wikipedia page anyway. Brewer you useless tit....... I think even my old Granny knew it was Carroll Shelby that created the Tiger.
It looks like Brabham did have some initial involvement, including making the initial proposal, but ultimately it was Shelby who did the work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunbeam_Tiger
That doesn't make Brewer right and you wrong, by the way, I'm just saying that it looks like Brabham's name was indeed associated with the Tiger in some way.
Triumph Man said:
I was watching a re-run the other day of an Alfa 164 project on WD. They seemed to skip so much, one minute Ant said something like "I've just got to change the exhaust, do this, do that, do the other" Oh good, I thought, there is more to do. With that we skipped to the final bill, with no other work shown.
This has been a major feature of the latest series on Quest. All the work on the car is skipped through at the speed of light, with major jobs (like the engine removal on the Alfa 164) being completed in about 5 seconds.On the Capri episode, you don't even see the interior get changed, its just 'done'.
Typical American production style, all quick fire cuts and stupid camera angles. Its what makes Overhaulin so difficult/impossible to watch.
rwindmill said:
Triumph Man said:
I was watching a re-run the other day of an Alfa 164 project on WD. They seemed to skip so much, one minute Ant said something like "I've just got to change the exhaust, do this, do that, do the other" Oh good, I thought, there is more to do. With that we skipped to the final bill, with no other work shown.
This has been a major feature of the latest series on Quest. All the work on the car is skipped through at the speed of light, with major jobs (like the engine removal on the Alfa 164) being completed in about 5 seconds.thegreenhell said:
rwindmill said:
Triumph Man said:
I was watching a re-run the other day of an Alfa 164 project on WD. They seemed to skip so much, one minute Ant said something like "I've just got to change the exhaust, do this, do that, do the other" Oh good, I thought, there is more to do. With that we skipped to the final bill, with no other work shown.
This has been a major feature of the latest series on Quest. All the work on the car is skipped through at the speed of light, with major jobs (like the engine removal on the Alfa 164) being completed in about 5 seconds.Don't get me wrong, I would do the same if i had gone to the trouble of taking the engine out. But like you say, none of it is ever accounted for, in either the final cost or number of man hours.
Instead, Lard boy Brewer comes on screen and utters his 'frow a bucket a wooorta over it' line!!
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