Star Trek: Discovery - New series on Netflix

Star Trek: Discovery - New series on Netflix

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chris watton

22,477 posts

262 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Who said anything about skin colour, except for you?

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

200 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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No they will never admit it.. just continue making more and more ignorant statements until a mod closes the thread.

ChocolateFrog

26,134 posts

175 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Mostly because when I'm trying to envisage myself in a space battle it's not as an animate ungulate.

I thought Vogager was ahead of its time with Jayneway, Torres and Seven, the male characters were comparatively weak or just insulting in Chakotee's case so it's been happening for at least the last 25 years.

ETA. The doc aka Robert Picardo was by far the best character, I'd forgotten about him.

Edited by ChocolateFrog on Saturday 17th February 09:33

chris watton

22,477 posts

262 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Just WTF are you talking about - I mentioned the fact that there seems to be no positive male role models (irrespective of skin colour), and that simple statement seems to have got of you low-T Soy Boys triggered!

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

200 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Flip Martian

19,816 posts

192 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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The capacity for people to take offence at posts on the internet continues unabated. I thought I'd left that on Facebook... rolleyes

AlexC1981

4,946 posts

219 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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For the benefit of doubt, I'm here for a fun discussion/debate about Star Trek. We can have disagreement without animosity and none of my comments should be taken to heart by anyone in this thread.

Anyway, I'd be happy with Saru as captain. They need to be careful to keep him properly alien and not make him too human. I'm sure I saw Sarek smiling at one point..

Alex

9,975 posts

286 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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I think she improved as the show went on.

When you watch and listen to her here from 13:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_NeiF76AZA it's hard to believe that it's the same person.
I ended up watching all of that. Brilliant. I cracked up when she said "his nose fell off!"

Who'd have thought the demure Deanna Troi was played by a potty-mouthed EastEnder?

Mushroom12

161 posts

93 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Nothing wrong with 'turning the tables', but not when it's at the expense of great acting and writing. What did Captain Autism's Autism bring to the show other than 'hey guys we have an autistic character!' (tick box), what does having two gay characters bring to the show (neither with charisma or charm) other than ticking a box and providing the soy latte bloggers something to write about on buzzfeed?
There were something like 6 main characters, and the only one with some depth, acting ability, and charm was the psychopathic captain.

Flip Martian

19,816 posts

192 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Which one was Captain Autism?!! laugh

Mushroom12

161 posts

93 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Which one was Captain Autism?!! laugh
The chubby ginger one, who seems to be deigned to appeal to not only Autists, but single women in their 40's with no social skills, and cats who they sing to.
The only time she brought anything to the screen was when she was pretending to be evil, other than that she brought nothing to the story.
On her first on-screen appearance she literally says 'they won't let me (something something), because of my special needs'

Wobbegong

15,078 posts

171 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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At least on TNG the autistic character wasn’t presented with a neon sign and light-up badge declaring him to be special.

Mushroom12

161 posts

93 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Exactly, he was a good character because he was well written and had some depth to him. He wasn't just an autistic stereotype so the producers could tick the 'inclusion' box.

sparks_E39

12,738 posts

215 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Exactly. It’s forced and feels like “they just had too”. I don’t care about what she is, I’d be delighted if the character was written out.

AlexC1981

4,946 posts

219 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Mushroom12 said:
what does having two gay characters bring to the show (neither with charisma or charm) other than ticking a box and providing the soy latte bloggers something to write about on buzzfeed?
What does it take away from the show? Making them staight would not have given them more charisma or charm.

Wobbegong

15,078 posts

171 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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I found Tilly one of the better characters once they toned down the ‘speshalness’. The first episode made me cringe, I was surprised they didn’t decide put a propeller hat on her for added effect.


Mushroom12

161 posts

93 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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AlexC1981 said:
Mushroom12 said:
what does having two gay characters bring to the show (neither with charisma or charm) other than ticking a box and providing the soy latte bloggers something to write about on buzzfeed?
What does it take away from the show? Making them staight would not have given them more charisma or charm.
That's all they were in the show; The Gay People (tick box), their entire arc revolved around them both being gay.
I don't give a damn if they are gay or straight, I just want well developed characters that are entertaining to watch.

Mushroom12

161 posts

93 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Wobbegong said:
I found Tilly one of the better characters once they toned down the ‘speshalness’. The first episode made me cringe, I was surprised they didn’t decide put a propeller hat on her for added effect.
That would have at least made the character funny.

SlimJim16v

5,797 posts

145 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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I'm confused now. I took Captain Autism to be Saru, but others are saying it's Tilly.

So who is it?

Mushroom12

161 posts

93 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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If the other half was female, and written in the same way, yea wouldn't have made a difference. STD's writers are simply ticking boxes to make up for piss-poor writing. The doctor's purpose was to cause faux outrage on soyfans.com, nothing more...it's not like he did anything other than hold the scientist dudes hand and have his neck snapped.