Mr Bates vs The Post Office
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outnumbered said:
alangla said:
Lesley Sewell - former Chief Information Officer at Post Office Ltd
Taken from: https://www.postofficehorizoninquiry.org.uk/phase-...
Having skimmed through her witness statement, it seems she can't really remember anything, which the questioning seems to be confirming.Taken from: https://www.postofficehorizoninquiry.org.uk/phase-...
https://www.postofficehorizoninquiry.org.uk/file/3...
Look at para 79 for example, which I'm sure will come up later. Paula Vennels has called/texted her several times in 2020 and she "can't remember" what was discussed.
Strangely her answers to Sir Wynn seemed to be more forthcoming. Maybe he should takeover?
'Kin Hell, how the hell did/does she get through the day? She must have her name printed in her 'kin knickers! She's gonna be a waste of time!
Edited by Short Grain on Thursday 16th May 11:38
simon_harris said:
How does such a person get such a high level, you would expect a CIO of a organisation of this size to need a sharp eye for detail and memory to suit.
I could still answer questions now about systems I worked on 30 years ago, including errors I encountered and fixed!
So could all the witnesses called so far if they really wanted to! They do seem to recall anything that shows them in a good light however.I could still answer questions now about systems I worked on 30 years ago, including errors I encountered and fixed!
simon_harris said:
How does such a person get such a high level, you would expect a CIO of a organisation of this size to need a sharp eye for detail and memory to suit.
I could still answer questions now about systems I worked on 30 years ago, including errors I encountered and fixed!
Yeah but your not in an arse covering exercise, in public! These people have no 'kin shame! They must know how people are seeing them for the lying, self serving tts they are! Yet they will stick to the party line of selective memory and deflection!I could still answer questions now about systems I worked on 30 years ago, including errors I encountered and fixed!
I'm Sorry Mrs Sewell, Tearfully sniffing your way through your appearance doesn't garner any sympathy, from me at least!
I'm looking forward to Ms Vennells' turn in the spotlight next week, largely because she seems to have become Public Enemy No1, and seems to be the progenitor of everything bad about this whole sorry mess, which seems to be at odds with her position as a senior cleric within the Church (shortlisted for Bishop status), which, unless I'm very much mistaken, would require occupation of the moral high ground.
Another thought which I'm unable to shake off is that the whole case which has led to this rather lengthy, undoubtedly expensive inquiry, is that the only fault/bug/whatever with Horizon appears to result in individual Post Offices reporting cash shortfalls. There are, unless I've missed something, no mentions of unexplained cash surpluses, or stock discrepancies?
Another thought which I'm unable to shake off is that the whole case which has led to this rather lengthy, undoubtedly expensive inquiry, is that the only fault/bug/whatever with Horizon appears to result in individual Post Offices reporting cash shortfalls. There are, unless I've missed something, no mentions of unexplained cash surpluses, or stock discrepancies?
Dermot O'Logical said:
I'm looking forward to Ms Vennells' turn in the spotlight next week, largely because she seems to have become Public Enemy No1, and seems to be the progenitor of everything bad about this whole sorry mess, which seems to be at odds with her position as a senior cleric within the Church (shortlisted for Bishop status), which, unless I'm very much mistaken, would require occupation of the moral high ground.
Another thought which I'm unable to shake off is that the whole case which has led to this rather lengthy, undoubtedly expensive inquiry, is that the only fault/bug/whatever with Horizon appears to result in individual Post Offices reporting cash shortfalls. There are, unless I've missed something, no mentions of unexplained cash surpluses, or stock discrepancies?
According to the SPM's contract, they were responsible to make up losses (even imaginary ones) but were allowed to keep surpluses, so there has been less focus on that.Another thought which I'm unable to shake off is that the whole case which has led to this rather lengthy, undoubtedly expensive inquiry, is that the only fault/bug/whatever with Horizon appears to result in individual Post Offices reporting cash shortfalls. There are, unless I've missed something, no mentions of unexplained cash surpluses, or stock discrepancies?
There was a recent report in the DT: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/27/post-o... which describes that over a week in January 2024, the total reported shortfalls across PO branches was £2.2M. But there was also an unexpected surplus of £3.4M. Is any of this real money ? Who knows, still.
outnumbered said:
Dermot O'Logical said:
I'm looking forward to Ms Vennells' turn in the spotlight next week, largely because she seems to have become Public Enemy No1, and seems to be the progenitor of everything bad about this whole sorry mess, which seems to be at odds with her position as a senior cleric within the Church (shortlisted for Bishop status), which, unless I'm very much mistaken, would require occupation of the moral high ground.
Another thought which I'm unable to shake off is that the whole case which has led to this rather lengthy, undoubtedly expensive inquiry, is that the only fault/bug/whatever with Horizon appears to result in individual Post Offices reporting cash shortfalls. There are, unless I've missed something, no mentions of unexplained cash surpluses, or stock discrepancies?
According to the SPM's contract, they were responsible to make up losses (even imaginary ones) but were allowed to keep surpluses, so there has been less focus on that.Another thought which I'm unable to shake off is that the whole case which has led to this rather lengthy, undoubtedly expensive inquiry, is that the only fault/bug/whatever with Horizon appears to result in individual Post Offices reporting cash shortfalls. There are, unless I've missed something, no mentions of unexplained cash surpluses, or stock discrepancies?
There was a recent report in the DT: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/27/post-o... which describes that over a week in January 2024, the total reported shortfalls across PO branches was £2.2M. But there was also an unexpected surplus of £3.4M. Is any of this real money ? Who knows, still.
Dermot O'Logical said:
I'm looking forward to Ms Vennells' turn in the spotlight next week, largely because she seems to have become Public Enemy No1, and seems to be the progenitor of everything bad about this whole sorry mess, which seems to be at odds with her position as a senior cleric within the Church (shortlisted for Bishop status), which, unless I'm very much mistaken, would require occupation of the moral high ground.
Another thought which I'm unable to shake off is that the whole case which has led to this rather lengthy, undoubtedly expensive inquiry, is that the only fault/bug/whatever with Horizon appears to result in individual Post Offices reporting cash shortfalls. There are, unless I've missed something, no mentions of unexplained cash surpluses, or stock discrepancies?
She obviously has an aversion to explaining her actions .....she blocked Paula Vennells’ phone number after the ex-chief executive sought her help to “avoid an independent inquiry”.Another thought which I'm unable to shake off is that the whole case which has led to this rather lengthy, undoubtedly expensive inquiry, is that the only fault/bug/whatever with Horizon appears to result in individual Post Offices reporting cash shortfalls. There are, unless I've missed something, no mentions of unexplained cash surpluses, or stock discrepancies?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/horizon-gove...
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