Mr Bates vs The Post Office

[Wills2]

vaud said:

Wills2 said:

As a fellow Yorkshireman born on Ilkley moor no less

I can see Ilkley moor out of my window right now

Must have been draughty for your mum.

They had windows at St Winifred's even back then.

[Wills2]

FiF said:

Off topic, lived in Ilkley for a while, spent many happy hours as a sprog sailing my model yacht on Ilkley tarn.

Indeed, we lived in Menston, I stacked the shelves as a teenager at Hillards though and we'd cycle to the lido in the summer holidays.

[Nova Gyna]

vaud said:

https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquir...

Live streams always here

Thank you.

[Short Grain]

ffs This woman must have her name written inside her knickers and everything! She can't remember any fkin thing. Can't recall POL's General Council telling her there would be many successful claims arising from wrongful prosecutions! But She can't remember it! FRO PV, you're a fookin liar being [i] fookin economical with the truth, in my honest opinion! That would be absolute dynamite just before YOU have to present the legal report to the board, and you've just been told that!

NB: I'm a bit behind as you can see. Do you think I can sue her for damages if I throw something heavy at her face on my tv?

edit just in case the b*tch reads this and goes all legal on my ar*se!

Edited by Short Grain on Thursday 23 May 16:04

[Bonefish Blues]

Must. Protect. Brand.Must. Protect. Brand. Must. Protect. Brand. Must. Protect. Brand.

[skwdenyer]

Boringvolvodriver said:

Wills2 said:

You can look at that from the other side as well, my biggest team was around 45 people with 4-5 direct reports, there were a number of people that when faced with an issue would just throw it up the line (here you go not my issue) that gets wearing and shows them to be completely disinterested in resolving issues which is a core part of anyone's working day.

You can tell me as much bad news as you want but you better also tell me what you have done to resolve it (that's not the same as resolving it) come in for advice, come in for support and help but don't walk in st on the desk and then walk out.

Totally agree with your last paragraph- it’s what I always told my staff

That's a very dangerous approach, because it prevents people who are not equipped for a solution, or who need you to solve it (because it is not their job or, frankly, because it is your mess) from bringing things in. Either there's a culture of open honesty, or there isn't; not "yes, but..."

[Wills2]

For all practical purposes they might as well have dragged in a cleaning lady from old street to question.

Can we not just move to sentencing?

[LimmerickLad]

I'm up to the bit about duties / obligations as a solicitor V the business............she wrote it wrongly apparantly.......my arse!

[Wills2]

skwdenyer said:

Boringvolvodriver said:

Wills2 said:

You can look at that from the other side as well, my biggest team was around 45 people with 4-5 direct reports, there were a number of people that when faced with an issue would just throw it up the line (here you go not my issue) that gets wearing and shows them to be completely disinterested in resolving issues which is a core part of anyone's working day.

You can tell me as much bad news as you want but you better also tell me what you have done to resolve it (that's not the same as resolving it) come in for advice, come in for support and help but don't walk in st on the desk and then walk out.

Totally agree with your last paragraph- it’s what I always told my staff

That's a very dangerous approach, because it prevents people who are not equipped for a solution, or who need you to solve it (because it is not their job or, frankly, because it is your mess) from bringing things in. Either there's a culture of open honesty, or there isn't; not "yes, but..."

Not if you actually make an effort to read what was written, but as this inquiry shows not everyone likes doing that when it gets in the way of their agenda.

[mikeiow]

Bonefish Blues said:

Must. Protect. Brand.Must. Protect. Brand. Must. Protect. Brand. Must. Protect. Brand.

Yup.
What a horror.

Jason is getting under her skin, isn't he: she is now looking quite flushed, despite trying to keep her calm countenance.
I'm sure I'm catching the occasional chuckle or snort from the people watching.

Pure evil!

[Bonefish Blues]

mikeiow said:

Bonefish Blues said:

Must. Protect. Brand.Must. Protect. Brand. Must. Protect. Brand. Must. Protect. Brand.

Yup.
What a horror.

Jason is getting under her skin, isn't he: she is now looking quite flushed, despite trying to keep her calm countenance.
I'm sure I'm catching the occasional chuckle or snort from the people watching.

Pure evil!

He simply will not let her off the hook, and (I suspect unlike tomorrow) she can't hide behind the man is being nasty to me because Mr Beer is the very epitome of politeness.

[daqinggregg]

Seems her faith, which she preaches, has no problem remembering fictitious baloney form thousands of years ago, but poor sobbing Paula, can’t remember being involved in the incrimination of innocent individuals, odd that!

[Boringvolvodriver]

Way behind but every time she says Alice, I just want to say Alice Alice who the ...... Is Alice!

[Boringvolvodriver]

Will the Stein question be asked " you are either lying or incompetent - which is it?"

[LimmerickLad]

Boringvolvodriver said:

Will the Stein question be asked " you are either lying or incompetent - which is it?"

She's just the most unluckiest CEO in the country.

[Vasco]

I'm struggling a bit with what she (and others) can actually be charged with. Probably a bit of lying, under oath etc - but what sort of real 'heavy' charges are going to be possible when nearly all involved have handily 'forgotten' or 'can't recall' so much ???

[Camoradi]

Boringvolvodriver said:

Way behind but every time she says Alice, I just want to say Alice Alice who the ...... Is Alice!

Alice Perkins....

AKA Mrs Jack Straw.

[TriumphStag3.0V8]

Vasco said:

I'm struggling a bit with what she (and others) can actually be charged with. Probably a bit of lying, under oath etc - but what sort of real 'heavy' charges are going to be possible when nearly all involved have handily 'forgotten' or 'can't recall' so much ???

perverting the course of justice - knowingly prosecuting innocent people.

[Short Grain]

To paraphrase, "That might be what I wrote, but I didn't mean it (that way)"


FRO Ms Vennells and may your God go with you! (thanks to Dave Alan for that one)

[PlywoodPascal]

LimmerickLad said:

I'm up to the bit about duties / obligations as a solicitor V the business............she wrote it wrongly apparantly.......my arse!

her answer there was not in any way credible and I think Beer demonstrated that pretty clearly.