Civil War

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Hugo Stiglitz

37,416 posts

213 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Disagree, Dredd was critised saying it was just a RAID copy but it was a road trip as was Civil War although it was through levels, encountering civilians, those who didn't want to get involved, those that were passively and those that volunteered. It also showed the grittiness, described using SA footage of disorder etc. It was just as simple a story but felt much less foggy to watch.

biggbn

24,103 posts

222 months

Tuesday 30th April
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
EvoDelta said:
Absolutely loved this. I'm not sure where the bad reviews are coming from, I couldn't fault it.
Civil War imagines a crumbling USA torn apart by militias, a crazed president, and murderous ideological rage. The problem is, director Alex Garland never tells us anything about those ideologies.

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Civil War does promise to be some great commentary on our cultural zeitgeist, and yet it’s not much more than a higher-minded version of White House Down or Olympus Has Fallen.

I agree with these critics.

For me it starts off with a jarring suicide bomber carrying the stars and stripes. That was a fantastic opener.

It then became/finished as just a shooting film.

Garland's Dredd was a snarling vicious view of the future.

I was thinking throughout Civil War that I didn't identify or feel any sort of empathy or warmth with any of the lead characters.

It just seemed to collapse with no attempt at story telling why, how, what.
I thought it was apolitical, mainly signified by 'the union' being Texas and California. No political bias, just a foreboding dystopia that seemed so possible and real..and close..yes, yes, there were silly bits, but there always is. A truly uncomfortable, joyless film that was a hard watch but is, in my opinion, unmissable. As another said, it could be lifted and transfered to any 'civlised' Union and still make sense

Speed Badger

2,782 posts

119 months

Wednesday 1st May
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Just seen this at the cinema about an hour ago, blimey it's pretty tough going. I thought it was great overall, couple of mis-steps, but on the whole pretty terrifying. I could imagine how easily a country could slip like this.

The part with Jesse Plemons was one of the most tense scenes I've seen in a long time. At the beginning I was sure the young photographer would be annoying, but for the most part isn't.

As mentioned in previous posts as a negative, I thought the fact you didn't know the ideologies of either the WF or the government was for me a positive, in that we, as the viewer didn't have a 'side' to root for, just observe.

Craiglamuffin

359 posts

182 months

Thursday 2nd May
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Just seen it here too and really enjoyed the tension of the whole thing.

I also thought the young photographer might be annoying, but the way she became so comfortable with what was happening around her nicely summed up how quickly war had turned people.

Only 3 people in our cinema showing and we all jumped with the gunshots too! 😆

Terry Winks

1,255 posts

15 months

Wednesday 8th May
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That's not what I expected it to be, only saw the trailers and inbetween jobs I love the day time trip to the cinema.

Thought it was great, and I would agree, I didn't get a sense of its political side, it actually seemed purposely didn't go into the reasons for the Civil War itself. That's the first realistic representation of gun fire though and the loudness of it I have seen in a film since Heat.

Obi Wan

2,090 posts

217 months

Saturday 25th May
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Saw this last night and I thought it was brilliant. I’ve never any other film that made me feel as if I was in an actual war zone. The gunfire and explosions were so loud. I think the film will lose some impact if you watch it at home

Hugo Stiglitz

37,416 posts

213 months

Saturday 25th May
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You need to watch the Documentary in Syria. That will help you understand what a war zone is, smells, the traumatic body recovery/finds etc.

croyde

23,218 posts

232 months

Saturday 25th May
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
You need to watch the Documentary in Syria. That will help you understand what a war zone is, smells, the traumatic body recovery/finds etc.
Is that the title Hugo?

Hugo Stiglitz

37,416 posts

213 months

Saturday 25th May
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Its Just Adz

14,342 posts

211 months

Sunday 26th May
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Just watched it, I really enjoyed it.

Really graphic at times but not over the top, just showing the horrors of war.

Great seeing from the journalists view.

hondajack85

78 posts

1 month

Monday 27th May
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One of those vicarious thrills for americans,minus the zombies. Another on the growing list for garland to be embarrased about one day.

The Rotrex Kid

30,653 posts

162 months

Tuesday 4th June
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Just watched this. Thought it was absolutely superb.

Gritty and realistic enough, the story was actually well planned out and shows the horror of conflict on relatively normal people. Brutal.

The Rotrex Kid

30,653 posts

162 months

Tuesday 4th June
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But also, so many war crimes rofl

Nethybridge

1,146 posts

14 months

Thursday 6th June
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Terrible cliche ridden, formulaic road film.

Was it set in the past ?
Both women were using 35mm SLR cameras, like digital never happened.

Where did they process their negs and print positives..........was Walmart still open ?

Photo-journalists and war photograpers are stuff
of the 20th century, the Pulitzer prize winning single image has had its day,
everyone has mobiles, rolling news wants moving images.

ajprice

27,961 posts

198 months

Thursday 6th June
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Nethybridge said:
Where did they process their negs and print positives..........was Walmart still open ?
So you missed the scene where they processed the film and viewed it in the box they slotted the iPhone into...

KittyLitter

348 posts

2 months

Thursday 6th June
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Got 30mins in and its not a film it is a music video. The picture and story is secondary to the soundtrack. Utterly abysmal film, I mean, music video.

Hugo Stiglitz

37,416 posts

213 months

Thursday 6th June
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
EvoDelta said:
Absolutely loved this. I'm not sure where the bad reviews are coming from, I couldn't fault it.
Civil War imagines a crumbling USA torn apart by militias, a crazed president, and murderous ideological rage. The problem is, director Alex Garland never tells us anything about those ideologies.

And

Civil War does promise to be some great commentary on our cultural zeitgeist, and yet it’s not much more than a higher-minded version of White House Down or Olympus Has Fallen.

I agree with these critics.

For me it starts off with a jarring suicide bomber carrying the stars and stripes. That was a fantastic opener.

It then became/finished as just a shooting film.

Garland's Dredd was a snarling vicious view of the future.

I was thinking throughout Civil War that I didn't identify or feel any sort of empathy or warmth with any of the lead characters.

It just seemed to collapse with no attempt at story telling why, how, what.
I still stand by my earlier comment. Its not very good.

Patio

576 posts

13 months

Friday 7th June
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Watched the other night and got to say I didn't think it was the best

Some good scenes, hillbilly petrol station, Jesse plemons

Also some daft bits, near end following in the troops

Wouldn't watch again

tangerine_sedge

4,909 posts

220 months

Saturday 8th June
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Nethybridge said:
Terrible cliche ridden, formulaic road film.

Was it set in the past ?
Both women were using 35mm SLR cameras, like digital never happened.

Where did they process their negs and print positives..........was Walmart still open ?

Photo-journalists and war photograpers are stuff
of the 20th century, the Pulitzer prize winning single image has had its day,
everyone has mobiles, rolling news wants moving images.
The 'Pro' was using Sony digital gear, and the youngster was using a classic Nikon F film camera - as pointed out above they even show a scene of her developing negs at the stadium. One of the themes of the film is the old vs new, and the film (IMHO) laments the way that modern news is all about video and not the classic single frontpage photo.

steveatesh

4,926 posts

166 months

Thursday 13th June
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Just watched this, personally I enjoyed it. Glad the was no back story to give us goodies and baddies, the “still” photos that were pepper dashed through the movie were dramatic black and white and captured a lot of emotion.

I thought the acting was good and the story was fast moving and kept me engaged, with some brutal footage in places but probably reflects real warfare.

7/10 revolutions from me.