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WestyCarl

3,282 posts

126 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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I really enojoyed the first few series but this last series was a bit meh.

Felt like they'd got to the penultimate espisode slowly telling a story and thought "bugger, we've got to finish this in 1hr and so threw in alot of this is what happened earlier"

Didn't really work for me

P-Jay

10,597 posts

192 months

Monday 30th October 2023
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With the caveat that I don't remember watching a series finale that was everything I wanted it to be, I enjoyed it.

It was all too perfect. Axe did to Prince, what Prince had done to Axe, everyone got to be rich again, and even some minor characters got an 11th hour reprieve, but it worked because some of the dead-end storylines of the series became relevant.

I seem to remember the Admirals Fund being mentioned in the early series, but no, I don't think it really 'works', but then the way Prince took over Axe Cap didn't either.


Edited by P-Jay on Monday 30th October 14:37

Don Veloci

1,936 posts

282 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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Felt a bit like a reset/reboot to me.

Axe back to where he was when it started more or less, Chuck back where we found him, Prince dealt with (But in a position to rebuild). Side characters implying they're off to do other things but who knows.

Best not to overthink how they achieved that ending, it doesn't really stand up but they could run another season any time and it would feel like season one again. Chuck ain't done with billionaires and he'd turn on the biggest fish given the slightest sniff of a case.

Admirals fund? Meh! They had to/chose to write in a win. But it's a bit thin. I know nothing of trading but how tightly are traders accumulated wealth tied into a fund in general? Why would you not be continuously withdrawing a safety net and just reinvesting a little less?


Paddymcc

951 posts

192 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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Bit of a meh ending.

Id love to see a spin off show about Chucks father's earlier years.

jonsp

825 posts

157 months

Tuesday 31st October 2023
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Paddymcc said:
Id love to see a spin off show about Chucks father's earlier years.
Might be wrong but I assumed he made his money as a slum landlord - not sure that's a good basis for a series.

highway

1,971 posts

261 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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Corey Stoll plays Prince as a fundamentally alright sort of bloke. The only questionable things he’s shown to have done are getting his wife’s lover taken captive and stealing the self repairing concrete idea.
I don’t think the story has done nearly enough to show him as being dangerously unstable and not suited for office

popeyewhite

20,079 posts

121 months

Sunday 12th November 2023
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Apart from a keenness to press the nuclear button? A God complex and enough hubris to fill a stadium? biggrin

Great series, dipped a bit in the middle but still some really good writing.

AB

17,012 posts

196 months

Tuesday 14th May
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Really enjoyed it, just finished this afternoon.

Really need something similar to watch with Mrs AB, she's not into killing, shootings, violence etc which I'm sure in real life goes on with people playing with this amount of money i.e. Axe could have had Prince killed off pretty anonymously early on! Maybe I watch too much of the violent stuff!


tele_lover

329 posts

16 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Unfortunately i think the plot twists in series 2 (the drinks company) were better than the final plot.

Prak

728 posts

219 months

Wednesday 15th May
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AB said:
Really enjoyed it, just finished this afternoon.

Really need something similar to watch with Mrs AB, she's not into killing, shootings, violence etc which I'm sure in real life goes on with people playing with this amount of money i.e. Axe could have had Prince killed off pretty anonymously early on! Maybe I watch too much of the violent stuff!
Suits? If you're not allergic to Markle.

droopsnoot

12,036 posts

243 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Prak said:
AB said:
Really enjoyed it, just finished this afternoon.

Really need something similar to watch with Mrs AB, she's not into killing, shootings, violence etc which I'm sure in real life goes on with people playing with this amount of money i.e. Axe could have had Prince killed off pretty anonymously early on! Maybe I watch too much of the violent stuff!
Suits? If you're not allergic to Markle.
Yes, I was recommended Billions after saying I'd enjoyed Suits, and enjoyed it a lot. Suits has just started airing from the beginning on BBC1 / BBC3 and I believe it's on iPlayer as well.

AB

17,012 posts

196 months

Wednesday 15th May
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I've done Suits, well as much as I could stomach anyway. Another one that went stale in the later seasons. That and I can't stomach Markle anymore.

daqinggregg

1,606 posts

130 months

Wednesday 15th May
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For series like these, IMO the optimum run time is 3 series, after that they just become a bit stale.

Billions, the first couple of series at the end of each episode I would be searching the internet for some of the terms/jargon used as I simply didn’t understand them, in my view that made it good, I want to find it a challenge.

Suits, you have to remember is fairly old (1st series 2011) had an interesting premise, it was just flogged for too long.

Succession, I don’t know how I missed it at the start, I’ve only seen the last season and thought it was brilliant. I don’t think it’s ever worth going back as that would miss the point.

All 3 have one thing in common, characters who are hard to like; in my view that’s what makes them so endearing.

droopsnoot

12,036 posts

243 months

Wednesday 15th May
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daqinggregg said:
Succession, I don’t know how I missed it at the start, I’ve only seen the last season and thought it was brilliant. I don’t think it’s ever worth going back as that would miss the point.
I've seen the first series of that, and you're right, no-one likeable in the cast, I don't really care who "wins". I might go back to it for the rest and see how it goes.

200Plus Club

10,815 posts

279 months

Wednesday 15th May
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Lost its way after 2 or 3 excellent seasons, then somehow got it back for the most recent one i think.
Some of the name checking and celebs made no sense to us brits I guess, and it felt like they were trying too hard at times to throw glamorous names into it for cameos etc, but overall I enjoyed it all.

Doofus

26,038 posts

174 months

Thursday 16th May
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As soon as Mike Prince became Axe V2.0 it lost any credibility and, whilst we watched it to the end, it was increasingly preposterous.

tele_lover

329 posts

16 months

Thursday 16th May
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AB said:
I've done Suits, well as much as I could stomach anyway. Another one that went stale in the later seasons. That and I can't stomach Markle anymore.
They should use AI to change her face to another actress and and re-release.

Philvrs

551 posts

98 months

Thursday 16th May
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AB said:
Really enjoyed it, just finished this afternoon.

Really need something similar to watch with Mrs AB, she's not into killing, shootings, violence etc which I'm sure in real life goes on with people playing with this amount of money i.e. Axe could have had Prince killed off pretty anonymously early on! Maybe I watch too much of the violent stuff!
Industry?
Perhaps a bit too similar theme.

thepritch

628 posts

166 months

Friday 17th May
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Philvrs said:
Industry?
Perhaps a bit too similar theme.
I did enjoy Industry quite a lot, but it had a tendency to force a sex scene or three in every episode. For no real reason. My wife didn’t watch it and was often in anther room and she commented, asking if I was watching porn from hearing the audio!!!!!

I hear a third series may be aired this year.

tele_lover

329 posts

16 months

Friday 17th May
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daqinggregg said:
For series like these, IMO the optimum run time is 3 series, after that they just become a bit stale.

Billions, the first couple of series at the end of each episode I would be searching the internet for some of the terms/jargon used as I simply didn’t understand them, in my view that made it good, I want to find it a challenge.

Suits, you have to remember is fairly old (1st series 2011) had an interesting premise, it was just flogged for too long.

Succession, I don’t know how I missed it at the start, I’ve only seen the last season and thought it was brilliant. I don’t think it’s ever worth going back as that would miss the point.

All 3 have one thing in common, characters who are hard to like; in my view that’s what makes them so endearing.
Billions messed up when they changed location from Conneticut to NY. You used to understand Axe's life, the freedom his wealth bought him, the idylic life. With the penthouse you kinda lost all that. In the last few seasons I missed the dynamic with Axe's family.