Enemy at the gates

[petethechemist]

...just starting on film 4

Only socially acceptable Jude Law film?

[Seti]

petethechemist said:

Only socially acceptable Jude Law film?

The talented Mr Ripley?

[petethechemist]

Aah yes, good point.

[Guffy]

He was quite good in Gattaca too, albeit a supporting role.

[Seti]

Good film though - the opening scene when they cross the river and charge the German lines is almost as powerful as the opening of Private Ryan.

[Skywalker]

Guffy said:

He was quite good in Gattaca too, albeit a supporting role.

One of my fave filums.

[R1gtr]

Don't forget 'The Road to Perdition', prob his best film

[danrc]

Seti said:

Good film though - the opening scene when they cross the river and charge the German lines is almost as powerful as the opening of Private Ryan.

Reallllyyy?

I thought the film was ok, but a bit of a micky mouse effort compared to SPR.

[dudleybloke]

i thought he was ok in sherlock.

[PowerStation]

Best in Road To Perdition.

[Ken Sington]

If you have read any of the history of the Stalingrad sniper battles, you will know what a massive pile of ste Enemy at the gates is!

[anonymous-user]

Skywalker said:

Guffy said:

He was quite good in Gattaca too, albeit a supporting role.

One of my fave filums.

Me too.

[slipstream 1985]

Ken Sington said:

If you have read any of the history of the Stalingrad sniper battles, you will know what a massive pile of ste Enemy at the gates is!

care to enlighten us?

[Daniel1]

Ken Sington said:

If you have read any of the history of the Stalingrad sniper battles, you will know what a massive pile of ste Enemy at the gates is!

To be fair, that is a problem with anything produced for the masses. If you know anything about the subject, then it tends to be poor. I personally enjoyed enemy at the gates.

[Matt_N]

Not a bad film, but everyone having prim and proper English / American accents just seems wrong.

[Ken Sington]

slipstream 1985 said:

care to enlighten us?

Goood place to start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Zaytsev

[Goa'uld]

Ken Sington said:

slipstream 1985 said:

care to enlighten us?

Goood place to start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Zaytsev

The wiki is interesting but do you know of any good books about him?

[chris watton]

Ken Sington said:

If you have read any of the history of the Stalingrad sniper battles, you will know what a massive pile of ste Enemy at the gates is!

I love the film; it does give a small sense of the horrors of Stalingrad. I too know history – I watch and enjoy films portraying the Elizabethan period, and see ships with 19th century sails and rig, and even ships wheels (something that wasn’t seen for another 100 years!) – But I still enjoy them. Or Roman period films set in the Republic, but the legionaries wearing armour from 200AD. I still enjoy some of them nethertheless.

To say ‘This film’s a pile of st’ just because you know better regarding the intricacies is missing the point somewhat – Enemy at the Gates is still a damn fine film of its genre, by any standard – the acting is good, you care about the characters and the production and sets are top notch.

ETA - ...And be VERY wary of using and taking Wiki as gospel - I laugh at some of the info on there when I have to research my next projects - the info is usually so wrong it's laughable.

[Ken Sington]

Goa'uld said:

The wiki is interesting but do you know of any good books about him?

There are various mentions of the subject in Anthony Beevor's book on Stalingrad but I haven't read anything specfic about it.
There is a novel called War of the Rats by David Robbins which is a thriller that is somewhat closer to the real story than Enemy at the Gates from what I remember of it.

[Puggit]

The script for EatG borrows poorly from a couple of epic books about the subject (linked below). It just removes all the important stuff and creates something weak for Hollywood. Having read the book first (and many other Eastern Front books) I was thoroughly disappointed when I first saw this film - I didn't even bother setting the PVR this time.

If you found the subject of the film of interest then consider the following:

Stalingrad (movie)

Enemy at the Gates by William Craig

Stalingrad by Anthony Beevor

Forgotten Solder by Guy Sajer- not about Stalingrad, but a first person view of the Eastern Front by a German soldier