£50k just isn't enough anymore...

£50k just isn't enough anymore...

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theboyfold

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10,942 posts

228 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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Ohhh, my first Daily Wail thread link smile

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2013278/...

The family in Surrey are having to cancel the gym membership and 'think twice' about turning on the heating. They also complain about fuel prices, but what's that I spy? An R36 Passat...

KrazyIvan

4,341 posts

177 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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I wonder how much of the surrey families problems are from the "need" to keep up with the neighbours!

off_again

12,429 posts

236 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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MMm, earns £50k and has a £600k house - something doesnt add up there and my maths aint great.

And yes, well spotted that man - clearly one of the fastest depreciating cars on the market and they eat fuel. Cant make ends meet? Ditch the car and get a snotter - like thousands of other people have. And if its a company car, drop to something that will save £100's a month....

Oh, and shocker - more expensive house in leafy 'burb in the south costs more than something 'oop north. Thank christ for the Daily Whail - I never knew that!

hehe


P.S. I would suggest there are more £50k jobs down south than up north, so one might argue that this isnt necessarily comparing like-for-like

Adrian W

14,043 posts

230 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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I think that you've avoided the point!

theboyfold

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10,942 posts

228 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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Adrian W said:
I think that you've avoided the point!
You mean the article has a point beyond having a mortgage on a £600k house is more expensive than living up north in a £200k house?!

Riley Blue

21,090 posts

228 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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"Melanie says she feels disappointed that the family — who once took three holidays a year — are having to micro-manage their finances just to make sure they don’t exceed their income."

My heart bleeds... welcome to Britain in the 21st century!

otolith

56,658 posts

206 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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So what they are saying is that the same salary goes further if you live where living costs are lower? Wow, they must have some smart cookies at this "Daily Mail". They must be trained in dark arts like arithmetic and stating the bleeding obvious.

GT03ROB

13,404 posts

223 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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If they are currently paying 40% of their income to support a mortgage, then they had better be on fixed rate deal or they will be doomed when rates rise.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

210 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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Riley Blue said:
"Melanie says she feels disappointed that the family — who once took three holidays a year — are having to micro-manage their finances just to make sure they don’t exceed their income."

My heart bleeds... welcome to Britain in the 21st century!
My father earns a lot more than these families and 'proper' holidays with my parents were a once in 3-5 year thing (2 weeks in south of France type for example). Typically we might have a week at my Grandparents in Cornwall.

Always found it strange that people on low/modest incomes seem to think at least 1 foreign holiday every year is some kind of right. They love to throw money down the drain.

Du1point8

21,615 posts

194 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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So let me get this correct?

Is this a joint income after tax or before it?

Or are they both on roughly £33500 to get a take home of £25k each?

£33500 is not exactly making a comfortable income is it?

V88Dicky

7,310 posts

185 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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Serious question for a moment.

Are there more people living outside of their means in the South, than other parts of the UK?

£50k salary and a £600k house just doesn't add up to me.

theboyfold

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10,942 posts

228 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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Du1point8 said:
So let me get this correct?

Is this a joint income after tax or before it?

Or are they both on roughly £33500 to get a take home of £25k each?

£33500 is not exactly making a comfortable income is it?
That was my thought as well. If it's 50k before tax, then how on earth are then in a house worth 600k with, as they put it 'a large mortgage'?

It makes about as much sense as the article I read in Autocar the other day whilst in the DRs waiting room. A lady who wanted to buy a £65k X5 and would put down £5k deposit and borrow the rest on her mortgage!

CzechItOut

2,154 posts

193 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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Surely they must have £3-400K equity in that house?

fido

16,882 posts

257 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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KrazyIvan said:
I wonder how much of the surrey families problems are from the "need" to keep up with the neighbours!
Don't mock it - it's a terrible dilemma! I occasionally walk home with an ASDA bag just to take a welcome break from ass-coveting with the neighbours.

ClintonB

4,721 posts

215 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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Serious whiff of bullst about the whole article IMO.
If nothing else, 50k simply has to be take home rather than gross, otherwise I for one am doing something very wrong. 600k house, multiple annual holidays and a thirsty 30k car, all off 3k a month.

Chinny reckon!

AJS-

15,366 posts

238 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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I wouldn't be surprised if the Sewell's spend half their income on repaying debts.

50k is a good wage, but it is not 600K house, 3 holidays a year and flash car money. Unless you're very frugal/savvy in other ways.

Their firm belief that house prices will keep rising indefinitely and be enough to look after their retirement is rather optomistic too.

theboyfold

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10,942 posts

228 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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ClintonB said:
Serious whiff of bullst about the whole article IMO.
If nothing else, 50k simply has to be take home rather than gross, otherwise I for one am doing something very wrong. 600k house, multiple annual holidays and a thirsty 30k car, all off 3k a month.

Chinny reckon!
Just been doing the sums. The income for an Occupational Therapist is likely to be around £25k (my wife is one), so if it's £50k before tax that means they have £3k per month as you say.
Give them some benefit of the doubt and say they have a mortgage of £250k which with a duration of 20 years means they will be paying about £1500 per month on the repayment.

Like you say, something doesn't quite add up...

turbobloke

104,416 posts

262 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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theboyfold said:
ClintonB said:
Serious whiff of bullst about the whole article IMO.
If nothing else, 50k simply has to be take home rather than gross, otherwise I for one am doing something very wrong. 600k house, multiple annual holidays and a thirsty 30k car, all off 3k a month.

Chinny reckon!
Just been doing the sums. The income for an Occupational Therapist is likely to be around £25k (my wife is one), so if it's £50k before tax that means they have £3k per month as you say.
Give them some benefit of the doubt and say they have a mortgage of £250k which with a duration of 20 years means they will be paying about £1500 per month on the repayment.

Like you say, something doesn't quite add up...
It would be quite a big difference, £50k take home is about £80k gross.

rover 623gsi

5,230 posts

163 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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perhaps when they bought their house it wasn't worth £600k?

turbobloke

104,416 posts

262 months

Monday 11th July 2011
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rover 623gsi said:
perhaps when they bought their house it wasn't worth £600k?
Possibly so, equally, it may have appreciated overall. Mortgage at 40% of income, assume £50k is gross so take home is about £35.5k if so then the mortgage payments are £1200 per month. Or if the percentage is of gross income it's £1650

For the house price, guess a deposit and select a mortgage product smile