Climate change! Weve all been conned (as we all knew)

Climate change! Weve all been conned (as we all knew)

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Gary11

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4,162 posts

203 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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So the reality is in the numbers after spending gazillions on eco babble enviroment saving bull the proof is now in the numbers!
Quote you couldnt make it up!
"New figures issued by the Met Office and the University of East Anglia Climatic Research Unit indicate that the planet has not warmed for the last 15 years. "
And rather than our planet heating up wait for it.......we are actually heading for an ice age.

I wonder how our deficit would look without the massive waste of time and money that is global warming adding to our bottom line woes.
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Happy82

15,078 posts

171 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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So I guess that VED will now drop for 'gas guzzllers' and those who've suffered increased taxes as a result of the lies will receive a refund? And will those who fueled the lies be brought to justice?

motco

16,030 posts

248 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Source please, the Met Office's website is still peddling the old stuff.

Met Office said:
The term 'climate change' refers to a change in the average state of our climate and/or the variability of its properties.
While there are noticeable highs and lows in year to year data, over longer periods of time there is a discernible warming trend across the globe. Natural causes can explain only a small part of this warming. The overwhelming majority of scientists agree that this is due to rising concentrations of heat-trapping greenhouse gases in the atmosphere caused by human activities.

Jasandjules

70,037 posts

231 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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No, they've already been heading this one off at the pass, they have said that it will be cold for a while but that's just "not warming as fast" or some other sh**e...

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

257 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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motco said:
Source please, the Met Office's website is still peddling the old stuff.

Met Office said:
The term 'climate change' refers to a change in the average state of our climate and/or the variability of its properties.
While there are noticeable highs and lows in year to year data, over longer periods of time there is a discernible warming trend across the globe. Natural causes can explain only a small part of this warming. The overwhelming majority of scientists agree that this is due to rising concentrations of heat-trapping greenhouse gases in the atmosphere caused by human activities.
The thing is that the IPCC stated that the war,img can only have been anthropological for the last 30 or so years, so half of that has been cooling, so we are working on a 15-20 year period... That is by no means anywhere even vaguely near a 'longer period' and certainly not enough for a trend to be determined.

nelly1

5,631 posts

233 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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motco said:
Source please, the Met Office's website is still peddling the old stuff.
This I guess?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-209...

nigel_bytes

557 posts

238 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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TheHeretic

73,668 posts

257 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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nigel_bytes said:
And how many fewer each winter?

nigel_bytes

557 posts

238 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Professor Sir Bob Watson. nuff said
http://www.uea.ac.uk/env/people/facstaff/watsonr

Odie

4,187 posts

184 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Its obvious its a scam, just politicians 'playing the game' and we have to just go along with it unfortunately.

Liokault

2,837 posts

216 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Was listening to a debate a few weeks ago on radio 4, I came in at the end so missed most of it.

The bit I picked up was the "were all going to die" expert conceding to the fact that the actual statistics over the last 4 years show no average global warm up and that if the average didn’t head upwards next year he would concede that he will need to re-think his position on MMGW.

Wish I had found it on Iplayer now.


My feeling is that now the government has started working out just how much cash we have available in terms of shale gas we are going to start seeing a reeling in of the whole MMGW thing.

turbobloke

104,653 posts

262 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Interesting, some acknowledgement that the 'impregnable' warmist scaremongering could actually be wrong is always welcome.

Even so as manmadeup warming is predicated on junkscience you'd think an 'expert' wouldn't need so many clues.

Gary11

Original Poster:

4,162 posts

203 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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The scale of expediture chasing a imaginary reduction in carbon footprints is now unsustainable,add this to the euro numbered diesel engine emissions regs inc the DPF at £1500 a pop,the low pollution areas ,the windfarms, the electric cars etc etc and we are talking serious money in a downturn, IMO a view must be taken here,anyway our economys tax grab is based on the motorist and his taxpaying we are already seeing the result of only a 10% drop in pump spend(coryton) how on earth will the goverment cope when all cars do 100mpg and pay no RFL and only the top 10% of earners can afford a car at all? The tax man has relied on the motorist for way to long and is looking for other revenue streams such a s stealth taxing via speed cameras,parking fines and the like actualy driving the local economy to the shopping centers which are much further away than the local high street further blighting local buisness.

Edited by Gary11 on Sunday 29th January 18:36

Hoofy

76,688 posts

284 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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bounce

Looking forward to my tax rebate, then.













rofl

steveatesh

4,925 posts

166 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Liokault said:
Was listening to a debate a few weeks ago on radio 4, I came in at the end so missed most of it.

The bit I picked up was the "were all going to die" expert conceding to the fact that the actual statistics over the last 4 years show no average global warm up and that if the average didn’t head upwards next year he would concede that he will need to re-think his position on MMGW.

Wish I had found it on Iplayer now.


My feeling is that now the government has started working out just how much cash we have available in terms of shale gas we are going to start seeing a reeling in of the whole MMGW thing.
That will be this then no doubt?
http://www.thegwpf.org/the-observatory/4748-winnin...

If the government are going to go for Shale they must be allowing a "decent" time for the Mann Made Global Warming stuff to be swept under the carpet a little more. Certainly Huhne isn’t very supportive, although with a bit luck he will become somebodies bh soon and they don't put anothe eco loon into the job.

roofer

5,136 posts

213 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Hoofy said:
bounce

Looking forward to my tax rebate, then.













rofl
It was only ever a reason to tax us. All tree huggers should be drowned in their own piss.

roofer

5,136 posts

213 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Hoofy said:
bounce

Looking forward to my tax rebate, then.













rofl
It was only ever a reason to tax us. All tree huggers should be drowned in their own piss.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

246 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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roofer said:
It was only ever a reason to tax us. All tree huggers should be drowned in their own piss.
Nope, they should be drowned in each others' piss.

Guybrush

4,361 posts

208 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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What a laugh, all those with vested interests, from the left who use this as a front to exercise control, to the businesses who rely on subsidies, quaking in their boots trying to waffle their way out of this one.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

172 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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You have to realise that it was only one way to spin the Stats., and by the DM. The pros will spin it completely differently to miraculously reinforce their cause. Just like with the climate-gate emails, exoneration and business as usual, no doubt.