Tory Minister and News International.

Tory Minister and News International.

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Fittster

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20,120 posts

215 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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The career of the Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt was hanging in the balance this afternoon after devastating emails revealed James Murdoch was told a controversial takeover wouldn't 'be a problem'.

The Tory minister, who took over the probe into News Corporation's bid to buy out all of BSkyB in autumn 2010, is alleged to have given the Murdoch empire repeated back-channel assurances that it was a done deal, the Leveson Inquiry was told today.

News Corp provided the inquiry 163 pages of internal correspondence from its senior executive Frederic Michel, who was in contact with Mr Hunt's office for more than a year.

As their damning contents were being read out in court to gasps of astonishment from all those listening, the bookmakers suspended any more bets on Mr Hunt to be the first minister to leave the Cabinet

Shortly after the £8bn takeover was announced in June 2010, Mr Hunt's special advisor told him in an email that there wouldn't be a monopoly issue with the bid and that he 'believed the UK government would be supportive throughout the process'.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2134464/To...

K12beano

20,854 posts

277 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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He's a bit of a Hunt, isn't he......

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17829360


Quelle surprise - Labour want him to resign!

Fittster

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20,120 posts

215 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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David Cameron said in May 2011: "Jeremy Hunt had a quasi-judicial role to carry out, which he carried out in my view entirely properly."

Labour is calling for Hunt to resign. Number 10 is putting out an odd line that it has confidence in Hunt, but seemingly not in the way in which he and his department handled the BSkyB bid. That amounts to saying: "he's a nice bloke". But Number 10 will be desperate to hold on to the Culture Secretary, hoping to use him as a human shield. If he goes the main focus of the scandal will shift closer to the Prime Minister. Before the emergence of the sensational emails, there had already been the revelation in evidence at Leveson that, according to James Murdoch, he and David Cameron did discuss the BSkyB bid when they infamously met for Christmas dinner at Rebekah Brooks's house in the Cotswolds.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/iainmartin1/1001...

Bet Vince cable is having a quite chuckle about this.

K12beano

20,854 posts

277 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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I hope J Naughtie's not on Today tomorrow morning....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL1nxsIfsrU




Ah - that feels better.

dandarez

13,327 posts

285 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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He he. A week in politics...

2015. Will this lot last that long?

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

248 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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[quote=Fittster]...repeated back-channel assurances... /quote]

Yup, sounds like the Murdochs alright!

Bluebarge

4,519 posts

180 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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K12beano said:
He's a bit of a Hunt, isn't he......

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17829360


Quelle surprise - Labour want him to resign!
They do play the "resign" card a bit too often but, in this instance Dave will do well to avoid being carded himself. It's good fun this inquiry, isn't it?

davepoth

29,395 posts

201 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Bluebarge said:
K12beano said:
He's a bit of a Hunt, isn't he......

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17829360


Quelle surprise - Labour want him to resign!
They do play the "resign" card a bit too often but, in this instance Dave will do well to avoid being carded himself. It's good fun this inquiry, isn't it?
What surprises me the most is that any politician is attempting to make hay out of it; chances are it'll be them next.

B Huey

4,881 posts

201 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Bluebarge said:
They do play the "resign" card a bit too often but, in this instance Dave will do well to avoid being carded himself. It's good fun this inquiry, isn't it?
Labour have had plenty of reasons to play the resign card.

Where will this all end?

frosted

3,549 posts

179 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Critics of the Murdochs often have suspected that they have exploited their position as newspaper owners to win secret favours from governments – and the Murdochs and the politicians alike have denied it. Now, for the first time, courtesy of the volatile chain-reaction of the phone-hacking scandal, we have concrete evidence.

In 163 pages of paperwork published by the Leveson inquiry, we can see the email dialogue between James Murdoch's camp and the office of Jeremy Hunt, the secretary of state for media, who held in his hands the outcome of the biggest deal in the history of the Murdochs' News Corporation, the £8bntakeover of BSkyB.

According to Monday's evidence, Murdoch and his lobbyist, Fred Michel, worked their way through every crack in the walls of Whitehall in search of influence and, in Hunt's office, they found friends who would supply them with information, advice and support, even as Hunt claimed to the outside world that he was being impartial and even-handed.

The evidence is likely to be disputed. These are merely Michel's versions of what was said, so they are hearsay. Furthermore, Michel has told the inquiry that his messages that claimed to report conversations with Hunt were in fact based on talking to Hunt's officials, which would mean that they are also secondhand. But, if the evidence stands up, we are looking at a story of secret and improper collusion of precisely the kind that Murdoch's critics suspected.

At a time when Hunt was required to act in the legal role of a judge overseeing Ofcom's inquiry into the bid, this evidence suggests he was secretly supplying News Corp with information about his confidential dealings with Ofcom, advising them on how to pick holes in Ofcom's arguments, allowing their adviser to help him prepare a public statement, offering to "share the political heat" with them, and repeatedly pledging his support for their position.

If proved, this pushes Hunt's political career to the edge of destruction. It cannot help him that his website currently displays an interview describing him as a cheerleader for Rupert Murdoch. But the pressure may not stop there. The question now is whether Lord Justice Leveson will order the disclosure of more emails or other evidence that could conceivably see the prime minister and his government pushed out to the edge as well.

Cameron can become embroiled in two ways. First, he faces questions about whether he had any kind of involvement in handling the bid for BSkyB, particularly during the quasi-judicial process from June 2010 to July 2011. For the first timeon Monday, it was disclosed that Murdoch had raised the bid with him when they met at Rebekah Brooks's house two days before Christmas 2010. Previously, Cameron had refused to answer direct questions about what was discussed on this occasion. His opponents will be interested to know whether he really did keep his distance even as last year the bid was swept up in the political tornado around the phone-hacking scandal.

Second, and potentially even more serious, the prime minister would be in jeopardy if the alleged support for the BSkyB bid proved to be part of a bigger deal between the Conservative leadership and News Corp. In its crudest form, the suggestion is that the Murdochs used the Sun to make sure that Gordon Brown was driven out of Downing Street so that the incoming Conservative government could deliver them a sequence of favours – a fair wind for them to take over BSkyB; the emasculation of the much resented Ofcom; and a severe funding cut to their primary broadcasting rival, the BBC.

This was the core of the toughest exchangeson Monday, as Robert Jay QC, for the inquiry, laid out fragments of evidence that suggest this big deal was made, and concluded: "It all falls together, doesn't it?" In reply James Murdoch passionately denied that he would ever link his newspaper's endorsement of a political party to the commercial interests of his company. "I simply wouldn't do business that way."

UntilMonday, all of the evidence for the big deal was circumstantial.

We knew that both Rupert and James Murdoch had complained publicly and bitterly that Ofcom was interfering in their business. This came to a head on 26 June 2009, when Ofcom announced it wanted to force BSkyB to sell its channels to rivals at far lower prices. Ten days later, on 6 July, Cameron announced that, if elected, he would abolish Ofcom.

Similarly, the Murdochs have launched a series of lacerating attacks on the BBC, arguing that its income should be cut and its commercial activity restricted. In March 2009, Cameron called for the BBC licence fee to be frozen. In May 2009, Hunt did the same. Days after James Murdoch delivered his famous MacTaggart lecture in August 2009 – in which he renewed his attack on Ofcom as well as the BBC – Hunt met News Corp officials in New York. He then wrote an article for the Sun attacking the BBC for accepting a rise in its licence fee that year and calling on it to cut back its commercial activities.

It was disclosed on Monday that days later, on 10 September, James Murdoch went to a private drinking club in Mayfair for an evening meeting with Cameron, during which he told him that the Sun would back the Tories in the next election.

Murdoch also disclosed on Monday that the BSkyB bid had been discussed at a formal News Corp meeting in Los Angeles a few weeks before this meeting. There is no evidence at this stage, however, that the bid was mentioned to Cameron.

The Sun then used its news columns to launch a sustained attack on Gordon Brown. Five months after the election, Cameron's government slashed Ofcom's budget by 28% and cut back its role; and slashed the BBC's income by 16% and cut back its commercial activity.

Monday's cache of emails about the BSkyB bid appears to fit into that sequence with a neatness that will alarm the government.

It will alarm them, too, that in the political heat of last July, Cameron gave Leveson terms of reference for this part of his inquiry, which are very broad: "To inquire into ... the relationships between national newspapers and politicians, and the conduct of each."

Leveson may decide that he does need to order the disclosure of more evidence. Hunt may find a defence for his position. The government may emerge with no loss beyond that of Cameron's media adviser, Andy Coulson, who quit last year over decisions he made when editing the News of the World, well before he joined the government.

Yet as things stand, it is clearly possible that this strange affair, which began so quietly with the minor crimes of a single journalist and which has already brought acute pain and senior resignations to the Metropolitan police, the Press Complaints Commission and Murdoch's ranks in London and New York, may yet reach deep into the heart of government and do its damage there, too.





http://m.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/apr/24/leveson-...

martin84

5,366 posts

155 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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BREAKING NEWS: Politicians are close with media moguls

This is a discovery up there with penicillin and the higgs boson.

0a

23,907 posts

196 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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Old Man Murdoch is now taking the stand. What side of him will we see today? You can bet he'll be well prepped with an aim for the day...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/democracylive/hi/bbc_parliam...

Eric Mc

122,285 posts

267 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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martin84 said:
BREAKING NEWS: Politicians are close with media moguls

This is a discovery up there with penicillin and the higgs boson.
That's not the news.

The news is the EXTENT of the collusion and how it influences political decision making.

And perhaps the revelations will serve to ensure that such collusion will not be acceptable in the future.

AshVX220

5,929 posts

192 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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It just goes to show again, that the majority of our politicians are up to their necks in corruption and back-handers.

They all deserve each other though, Politicians and Journalists (or the media in general) are right up there with Traffic Wardens, for the people I trust the very least.

colonel c

7,892 posts

241 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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Watching News Night last night. The Government declined to send anyone to take part on a discussion on the day's events. Instead Jacob Rees-Mogg appeared. It was a spirited yet unconvincing defence. Unfortunately he also seemed to reinforce the public school image attached to the government. In that he rather came across as David Cameron's fag.


K12beano

20,854 posts

277 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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colonel c said:
... fag.

Talking of which Hunt seems to have found someone to resign for him.....

baz1985

3,598 posts

247 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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Eric Mc said:
That's not the news.

The news is the EXTENT of the collusion and how it influences political decision making.

And perhaps the revelations will serve to ensure that such collusion will not be acceptable in the future.
The extent of collusion has been quite transparent since the advent of the prime minister’s press secretary and can perhaps even be traced to Thomas Cromwell’s activities.

turbobloke

104,409 posts

262 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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baz1985 said:
The extent of collusion has been quite transparent since the advent of the prime minister’s press secretary and can perhaps even be traced to Thomas Cromwell’s activities.
Rupert Murdoch is looking old but I hadn't realised he was that old.

Eric Mc

122,285 posts

267 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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baz1985 said:
Eric Mc said:
That's not the news.

The news is the EXTENT of the collusion and how it influences political decision making.

And perhaps the revelations will serve to ensure that such collusion will not be acceptable in the future.
The extent of collusion has been quite transparent since the advent of the prime minister’s press secretary and can perhaps even be traced to Thomas Cromwell’s activities.
No doubt correct.

But is the general public finally ready to ay "enough"?

Eric Mc

122,285 posts

267 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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And wheeling out Rhees-Mogg, who's family is typical of the media/political milleu, was rather indicative of the problem.