Cyclist killed by Olympic bus

[Eighteeteewhy]

Just outside the Olympic park by the sounds of it.

Very sad.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19087826

[martin84]

Unfortunate indeed but if he was hit 2 miles further away by the bog standard number 8 then nobody would give a fk

[Daniel1]

martin84 said:

Unfortunate indeed but if he was hit 2 miles further away by the bog standard number 8 then nobody would give a fk

Sad but true.

[Jasandjules]

martin84 said:

Unfortunate indeed but if he was hit 2 miles further away by the bog standard number 8 then nobody would give a fk

It's not like they don't get killed by buses (heck, pedestrians too IIRC).

[toppstuff]

There have been a series of horrible bus/cyclist events in recent years in London though. It is happening a lot.

Maybe more training is needed. I travel the London bus system probably once a week and I can't say I am always impressed by the apparent quality of the people driving. Seen a fair bit of bloody minded road rage from some of them.

[bigbubba]

Eric Mc said:

Hope it wasn't Wiggo

Not funny or necessary Eric.

Very sad news.

[Eric Mc]

Repeating it doesn't help, does it.

[TonyHetherington]

Without more information it could be entirely the fault of the cyclist, or entirely the fault of the bus driver.

Or a mixture of the two.

[eccles]

TonyHetherington said:

Without more information it could be entirely the fault of the cyclist, or entirely the fault of the bus driver.

Or a mixture of the two.

Well I think that's all bases covered!

[TonyHetherington]

Never one to sit on the fence me

My point (probably hidden quite well!) was that we shouldn't speculate or accuse (as is likely way this thread will go).

The article does seem slightly biased towards blaming the bus driver - though I don't know if that's just me reading it wrongly.

[Blackpuddin]

toppstuff said:

There have been a series of horrible bus/cyclist events in recent years in London though. It is happening a lot.

Maybe more training is needed. I travel the London bus system probably once a week and I can't say I am always impressed by the apparent quality of the people driving. Seen a fair bit of bloody minded road rage from some of them.

I had to report a driver at Fulwell garage about five years back for deliberately trying to endanger me when I was on my bike. Just pure road rage as far as I could see, very peculiar, and quite disturbing to think these folk are in charge of so many lives day-to-day.

[Dixie68]

I don't like being anywhere near a London bus when I'm in my car, so riding on a bike close to one must be an experience. I take a bus in the morning to get me to the Tube and I do wonder how some of the drivers got their bus licences. As soon as the last person has swiped their Oyster card the doors shut and the bus lurches away into traffic causing those passengers who've only just got on board to fly down the centre of the bus if they haven't grabbed onto a handrail/another passenger sharpish.

[bigbubba]

Eric Mc said:

Repeating it doesn't help, does it.

Get off your high horse eric. You can't criticise people for making an arguably relevant post in 'your' science forum yet act like a child here. Of course it wasn't 'wiggo'.

[IroningMan]

With luck there will be some CCTV, as there was of the incident in Bristol.

[BoRED S2upid]

Wasn't wearing a helmet. Why would you not wear a helmet on your bike especially in London.

[bigbubba]

The BBC were reporting last night that it was a media bus. Not that it makes any difference to the sad death but I guess Locog will try and distance themselves from it if it was actually an Olympic branded bus being driven by a non-official driver.

I doff my cap to any bike riders in London but some of them do seem to make moves that are a little risky to say the least.

[digger_R]

TonyHetherington said:

My point (probably hidden quite well!) was that we shouldn't speculate or accuse (as is likely way this thread will go).

Don't let reasoned debate get in the way of a good lynching!

I've lived in mainland Europe for large parts of the last decade and as a cyclist and a car driver - I can honestly say that to ride a bike in London you have to be some kind of mentalist to start off with! I value my life/health too much to put myself into that environment

[zcacogp]

toppstuff said:

There have been a series of horrible bus/cyclist events in recent years in London though. It is happening a lot.

Maybe more training is needed. I travel the London bus system probably once a week and I can't say I am always impressed by the apparent quality of the people driving. Seen a fair bit of bloody minded road rage from some of them.

Not sure whether training is the answer (although "More Training" is the all-conquering panacea for everything according to many press departments!) It's more the fact that many drivers really don't seem to give a toss at the best of times and it shows. The complaints system is completely ineffectual as well; I've complained about bus drivers on two occasions and on each occasion I'd swear that it was simply ignored.


Oli.

[wl606]

"A man in his mid sixties has been arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving over a fatal crash involving an Olympic bus and a cyclist near the Olympic Park in Stratford, Scotland Yard said tonight. The man is in custody at an east London police station." ITV

The whole road network around the Olympic park is a nightmare for cars, cyclists, and pedestrians.

[Vanya]

Eric Mc said:

Repeating it doesn't help, does it.

You really are an argumentative little twit.

Not to mention patronising, condescending, contrary, etc.