Review of Road Tax ongoing.

[FiF]

Sometimes I read stuff like this, apologies for Wail link and knowing the howls of protest that will result, my first thought is to wonder what news are they trying to bury

Essentially they are undertaking a review of vehicle road tax because so many people have switched to vehicles that have lower banding. The main proposal being headlined by the Fail is a two tier tax system. One rate to allow you to drive on local roads, B roads and minor A roads. A second higher rate to allow you to drive on main A roads, trunk roads and motorways.

Are these people in the Treasury as stupid as they seem?

[AJS-]

Just scrap it altogether. I understand France did this when their system got impractically complex and ridiculous.

[thinfourth2]

A 2 tier system

Thats too retarded even for this lot to consider

[ringram]

The answer is of course to scrap road tax altogether and raise fuel duty.
Much easier to manage and you can sack loads of people.

[Jasandjules]

ringram said:

The answer is of course to scrap road tax altogether and raise fuel duty.
.

No the answer is to scrap road tax. The Fuel Duty is already extortionate.

[CHIEF]

Jasandjules said:

No the answer is to scrap road tax. The Fuel Duty is already extortionate.

Now we both know that aint nevr gonna happen.

[Pesty]

CHIEF said:

Jasandjules said:

No the answer is to scrap road tax. The Fuel Duty is already extortionate.

Now we both know that aint nevr gonna happen.

No it won't.

They will raise both.

[FiF]

CHIEF said:

Jasandjules said:

No the answer is to scrap road tax. The Fuel Duty is already extortionate.

Now we both know that aint nevr gonna happen.

Especially as the reason for the review is that they are seeing revenues decrease due to people switching to lower emission vehicles and thus they need to find the money from somewhere.

I could use a very bad word about this but will resist.

[anonymous-user]

FiF said:

Are these people in the Treasury as stupid as they seem?

Do you really need to ask that? Of course they are, and worse.

[Otispunkmeyer]

thinfourth2 said:

A 2 tier system

Thats too retarded even for this lot to consider

Dont the swiss do this? I'm sure the guy who picked me up from the train station in Baden told me that you can pay zero road tax and drive on most roads. If you want to drive on the big motorways then you pay some road tax, but everyone pays the same regardless of car.

[dazren]

Yes and the cost of the Swiss Motorway Vignette is 40CHF, about £27. I'm sure a UK motorway only tax wouldn't be only £27.....

[hollydog]

Think the only fair way forward is to abolish road tax and put it on fuel same with 3rd party insurance. Its the only fair way a taxing some thing. The more you use the roads the more you pay and if you also put 3rd party insurance in the fuel every one has to pay. You can't get away with driving illegally any more.

[Happy82]

hollydog said:

Think the only fair way forward is to abolish road tax and put it on fuel same with 3rd party insurance. Its the only fair way a taxing some thing. The more you use the roads the more you pay and if you also put 3rd party insurance in the fuel every one has to pay. You can't get away with driving illegally any more.

They do the same in parts of Australia I think?

[AJS-]

It's already on fuel - fuel duty raises about £25bn a year, while central government gave out £3bn to local councils for road repairs. I'm not sure if that the total cost of road maintenance or whether councils put in more from locally raised funds? I assume the latter. But either way I'm quite sure fuel duty covers the cost of road maintenance several times over.

[The Black Flash]

Guys, guys, calm down, it's ok. The coalition said they were going to end the war on the motorist, so we're safe. It'll all be fine.

[Benny Saltstein]

Happy82 said:

They do the same in parts of Australia I think?

The Aussi "rego" includes 3rd party insurance. Would probably save more money than it would cost processing uninsured drivers and persuing prosecutions.

2 tier road tax relying on ANPR sounds very expensive.

[hollydog]

It makes me p-- my self when the government say that your car tax and the amount you pay is related to the co2 emissions . That is just bl--ks. My wife was looking at the new fiesta 1.6 diesel great little car £20 per year road tax. Thought to myself that would be a good saving for me to get one for my work. But the same car with no back seats and no rear windows. Basically a fiesta van is £190 per year. Nice thought they where trying to help business.

[rs1952]

Benny Saltstein said:

2 tier road tax relying on ANPR sounds very expensive.

Not only expensive but barmy. IMHO, this is the result of somebody in the Treasury sitting back and chewing their pen whilst coming up with an idea, but dismally failing to think it through before, to pinch somebody else's phrase, they run it up the flagpole to see who salutes.

Just think of the number of motorways that are effectively used as bypasses for major towns and cities, and/or means of getting from one part of a town or city faster than would be the case on ordinary roads. Examples can be found all over the country but some that spring immediately to mind are:

1. All of the M25
2. The M4 past Reading and Swindon
3. The M5, M6 and M54 around Brum and Wolverhampton
4. The M4, M5 and M32 around Bristol.
5. The M27 and M3 around Southampton, Winchester and Pompey

I'll hazard a guess that large numbers of people using these sections of motorway are just on them for a junction or two.

Now just imagine what would happen to local roads if, to avoid paying the higher road tax, they stopped using the motorways and used those instead...

Methinks that this one will die a quick death once the practicalities have been pointed out to the idiots who thought it up

[pmanson]

rs1952 said:

Methinks that this one will die a quick death once the practicalities have been pointed out to the idiots who thought it up

More than likely but it will be a quick death once many millions have been spent of pointless "consultations" that fail to point out the bleeding obvious

[cptsideways]

They cannot do something as simple as stick it on petrol, which would be the perfect solution all round, half of south wales will be unemployed. The whole point of the exercise is to create even more jobs in Swansea.