Nick Clegg - do as I say, not as I do!
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Telegraph said:
Nick Clegg, the Deputy Prime Minister, has announced that he will send his eldest son to the same Roman Catholic state school used by Tony Blair.
Mr Clegg and his wife Miriam have decided to send their son Antonio, 11, to the London Oratory state Catholic school from September, despite Mr Clegg being an atheist and his party’s view that faith schools are discriminatory.
What an absolute tosspot.Mr Clegg and his wife Miriam have decided to send their son Antonio, 11, to the London Oratory state Catholic school from September, despite Mr Clegg being an atheist and his party’s view that faith schools are discriminatory.
Send him to a comprehensive like normal people have to, you hypocritical c###.
ClaphamGT3 said:
RSoovy4 said:
What an absolute tosspot.
Send him to a comprehensive like normal people have to, you hypocritical c###.
Politicians kids are no more a social experiment than anyone elses - he and his wife should be able to send them to whatever school they feel is best for themSend him to a comprehensive like normal people have to, you hypocritical c###.
But then he shouldn't b
h about faith schools being discriminatory then should he?I actually have more respect for politicians giving their kids the best education they can. It's human nature after all. I find those that are willing to sacrifice their kid's education on the alter of a political point worse TBH.
Having said all that, if you're going to do that you REALLY don't make stupid comments about private or religious education. That I also find offensive.
Having said all that, if you're going to do that you REALLY don't make stupid comments about private or religious education. That I also find offensive.
ClaphamGT3 said:
RSoovy4 said:
What an absolute tosspot.
Send him to a comprehensive like normal people have to, you hypocritical c###.
Politicians kids are no more a social experiment than anyone elses - he and his wife should be able to send them to whatever school they feel is best for themSend him to a comprehensive like normal people have to, you hypocritical c###.
He then lectures us about how faith schools are discriminatory. Then he sends his little darling to one.
What - rules don't apply to him then?
I say again - utter tosspot.
I am an atheist but send my kids to a state Catholic school, because there are only two schools within walking distance and the other one is a rat-infested craphole.
Criticizing the system itself whilst doing your best within the system is just pragmatism. I don't think it's hypocrisy unless you criticise other people for doing the same.
Criticizing the system itself whilst doing your best within the system is just pragmatism. I don't think it's hypocrisy unless you criticise other people for doing the same.
The man is hardly in a position to change the system with regards to faith schools (his party isn't running a majority government don't forget), and the school his boy is going to is very close to where they live in Putney. Whilst the system is as it is, he's entitled to voice concerns about it, but he still has to make a choice about schooling for his children within the system he disapproves of. I'm looking for a senior school for my boy at the moment, and every single one I look at (both private and state, faith and non denominational) has some kind of drawback to it which makes me think twice and swallow hard. There is no perfect option out there for my child's needs and my beliefs. Apart from the local Grammar School which is very hard to get in to (not that we won't try).
He's entitled to an opinion after all, in fact he's paid to have one.
He could send his children to a private, religious school (after all most private schools are in one way or another) and you'd have no complaint I imagine. But he's sending him to a state comprehensive. Hardly Diane Abbott, is he?
Personally I'd send my children anywhere but a faith school, but then I don't live in central London where logistics etc are tricky.
ETA - Tony Blair sent his children to the same school, which is in Fulham, from a home in Islington. The school is heavily oversubscribed, how did he get them a place there from such a distance? Joe Public wouldn't be able to pull off that feat.
He's entitled to an opinion after all, in fact he's paid to have one.
He could send his children to a private, religious school (after all most private schools are in one way or another) and you'd have no complaint I imagine. But he's sending him to a state comprehensive. Hardly Diane Abbott, is he?
Personally I'd send my children anywhere but a faith school, but then I don't live in central London where logistics etc are tricky.
ETA - Tony Blair sent his children to the same school, which is in Fulham, from a home in Islington. The school is heavily oversubscribed, how did he get them a place there from such a distance? Joe Public wouldn't be able to pull off that feat.
Edited by VoziKaoFangio on Monday 4th March 14:37
rhinochopig said:
I find those that are willing to sacrifice their kid's education on the alter of a political point worse TBH.
Yes, but if it is a political point which they have confidence in then why not? To do other than as you say is to suggest you don't believe in the points you are forcing others to adhere to. RSoovy4 said:
And every bit as bad as that other bastion of socialism except when it applies to her, that appalling unit Diane Abbott.
Trust me, she is every bit as bad in real life as she appears to be in the news. Vile, vile woman. Crying shame she didn't get labour leadership - it would have done the world a lot of good to watch her comprehensively destroy that party. Oli.
RSoovy4 said:
He then lectures us about how faith schools are discriminatory. Then he sends his little darling to one.
He may not agree with them in principle, but while they exist if they happen to offer the best education he should take advantage of them.I might not agree with child tax credits but as I'm paying into the system that's funding them then I'll claim what I'm entitled to!
Anyway, I thought he was going to send his son to private school? Did he fail his 11+?
ClaphamGT3 said:
RSoovy4 said:
What an absolute tosspot.
Send him to a comprehensive like normal people have to, you hypocritical c###.
Politicians kids are no more a social experiment than anyone elses - he and his wife should be able to send them to whatever school they feel is best for themSend him to a comprehensive like normal people have to, you hypocritical c###.
He should be able to apply to send his kids to exactly the same schools as all the other the kids wherever he lives. If the school they want is full or out of the area, then he just has to put up with it the same as everyone else.
He has just shown himself to be a hypocrite, but is that really a surprise?
VoziKaoFangio said:
V8mate said:
Quite. He'd get properly beaten up in a local comp.
It is a local comp. Not the first time it's been pointed out on this thread.So do please f
k off, you patronising tt.James P said:
He has just shown himself to be a hypocrite, but is that really a surprise?
How? The two statements "I don't like this system, it should be changed" and "I will do the best for my kids within the current system" are not contradictory or hypocritical. From what others have posted, it seems this school is his local comprehensive; if so, then it seems a pretty normal place to send his son.Edit: Although I'm sure the name will have helped with an over-subscribed school.
Edited by ewenm on Monday 4th March 15:06
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