Homeowner arrested for stabbing burglar

[julian64]

Do we need to arrest this 78 year old chap. Traumatised then arrested for good measure. I'd have given him a hot drink and a blanket

Happened in Walthamstow today

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/homeowner-78...

sorry for the wail

Edited by julian64 on Wednesday 4th April 10:43

[Bluesgirl]

Link?

[CAPP0]

*IF* the facts are as stated then surely he won't be prosecuted for anything. The "weapon" wasn't his, reasonable force would be allowable, and who's to say that the "stabbing" wasn't an accidental by-product of the struggle anyway, i.e. there may have been a wrestling match at which point the intruder fell onto the screwdriver.

[Cold]

"And when interviewed the defendant said that the complainant explained he was just doing some DIY before falling onto his screwdriver five or six times."

[brightbluesmurf]

So the 78 year old got the better of one of the burglar? Wow.

[LP670]

well done to the old man, one less scum bag on the earth

[Gameface]

He deserves a pat on back and a pension bump.

[stitched]

Anyone entering my house without invitation will be considered a rapist paedophile with murderous intentions.
I would rather do time than live knowing I had failed to protect my family.
Just wish the law reflected this, hopefully he will be released without charge but after the Tony Martin farce I wont be holding my breath.

[Hoofy]

brightbluesmurf said:

So the 78 year old got the better of one of the burglar? Wow.

I'm impressed. Dunno if I'd be able to tackle a young scumbag in my 70s.

[ape x]

stitched said:

Anyone entering my house without invitation will be considered a rapist paedophile with murderous intentions.
I would rather do time than live knowing I had failed to protect my family.
Just wish the law reflected this, hopefully he will be released without charge but after the Tony Martin farce I wont be holding my breath.

They might just want your Apple Mac though....



P.S.I am with you on this one, I totally agree, which is why I keep my tool box under my bed, axe, claw hammer and stanley knife....oh and half a bike chain with a big lock on one end...I am ready for a zombie apocalypse!!

My rule of thumb is if they her me wake up and instead of running out of the house they start coming up stairs, wife, 2 young kids...its then me or them, would rather die trying to save my family than live knowing I was a coward...
What i would never do is go after them if they simply run off....

[dsl2]

What an utter disgrace, the police should be (and probably are but following guidelines) ashamed of themselves for arresting the homeowner who used the force he deemed necessary to overcome intruders into his home.

The old guy should be given a commendation for his bravery in the face of an extremely worrying & dangerous situation he found himself having to confront, let's not forget this situation was not of his choosing & through absolutely no fault of his own.

Its about time a clear message was sent that home owners protecting themselves / family & worldly possessions whilst inside their own home are 100% entitled to use whatever they have to hand & in anyway to repel / incapacitate intruders without fear of prosecution if they see fit to attempt to tackle them.

After all who's to know what the intruders intentions are be it theft of property / aggravated burglary or a physco looking to maim or kill.

[julian64]

If the facts are as the mirror then I have a problem with this.

the bib on here are very much matter of fact 'he has nothing to worry about', he's not been charged with anything. No homeowner protecting his property in a reasonable manner has anything to worry about

But I personally think this age group ARE affected and traumatised by just being arrested. If the facts are as stated then by all means investigate the circumstances but why arrest?

At face value I would not arrest this chap, I'd get his family round and some counselling service and only arrest him if I thought there was something a lot more fishy going on. I'd be giving him a great deal of sympathy right now.

Do we think there is something here that isn't face value or do we think its right that everyone involved including the likely victim gets handcuffed and chucked in pokey till its all sorted out.

[MrBarry123]

Gameface said:

He deserves a pat on back and a pension bump.

Absolutely.

[BoRED S2upid]

I hope there is a que of the best lawyers we have waiting to defend this old boy and highlight what a farce arresting him was.

[cptsideways]

I'd like to think not one person in the country thinks this old boy has done anything wrong in his own home.

Anybody entering a house armed should be defenceless in law imho

[av185]

Good on the old guy.

Pity he didn't stab the second scrote too.

Liking the relevance of the £500k house value.

[TooMany2cvs]

They've done absolutely the right - the only - thing in arresting him. He'll almost certainly be released on police bail ("There's the door ...and don't forget to come back if and when we ask you to") fairly quickly, and quite likely won't ever be charged with anything - assuming it really is at face value.

julian64 said:

But I personally think this age group ARE affected and traumatised by just being arrested.

You think he's more likely to be traumatised by that than by having a dead bloke impaled on the other end of the screwdriver he's holding?

[TurboHatchback]

Good effort by the chap, shame he didn't get the accomplice too. It does seem fairly shameful that he's been arrested, I struggle to see how there can possibly be suspicion of murder when two armed criminals are inside a pensioners house and the wound is to the chest (not the back). I agree he should be given a cup of tea, a commendation and somebody to scrub the blood off his floor.

[geeks]

Arrested by the police on suspicion of GBH. Seems fair, someone has died (regardless of the circumstances), they need to follow the book and then release the guy, which is probably what will happen. I would send him on his way with a pat on the back, however the old boy will have to live knowing he killed someone, doesn't matter how much of a scumbag the burglar was I imagine its going to weigh pretty heavily on the old guy, I know it would if it were me!

[Jordan210]

"Update - Metropolitan Police says a 78-year-old homeowner has been arrested on suspicion of murder after a man was stabbed and then later died during a burglary in Hither Green in southeast London"


Not sure how it can be Murder really