PC paedophile Ian Naude: Cheshire PC convicted of raping 13-
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paedophile Ian Naude: Cheshire PC convicted of raping 13-year-old girl
PC and a paedophile, he's gonna be lit up like a christmas tree in gaol
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-4...
PC and a paedophile, he's gonna be lit up like a christmas tree in gaol
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-4...
It's the irrelevant pedantic point over definitions, "It's not paedophilia it's hebephilia", even though the legal system and everyday usage doesn't make the distinction.
He's obviously not told the forces who were investigating him in early 2017 he was becoming a police officer, and there was no process to re-check the Police National Computer after passing the vetting in October 2016.
I expect that gap will be plugged and officers will be re-checked prior to being sworn in.
I expect, and hope, he'll receive a long custodial sentence.
ash73 said:
Major fk up in the vetting process; someone needs to lose their job over this.
You're wrong. They followed the the national vetting code of practice, and the IOPC found no misconduct. The primary issue here is the gap between vetting and starting as a police officer. He's obviously not told the forces who were investigating him in early 2017 he was becoming a police officer, and there was no process to re-check the Police National Computer after passing the vetting in October 2016.
I expect that gap will be plugged and officers will be re-checked prior to being sworn in.
I expect, and hope, he'll receive a long custodial sentence.
ash73 said:
Then whoever wrote the code of practice should lose their job, this is totally unacceptable.
Do you think perhaps the interview should ask if you are a kiddy fiddler? You know, weed them out !?!? I think maybe you need to be hired by the Police to teach them how to investigate..La Liga said:
Sheepshanks said:
La Liga said:
a gap highlighted by exceptional behaviour.
ash73 said:
Major fk up in the vetting process; someone needs to lose their job over this.
I realise that my example isn’t in the same league as this copper’s offence, but in 1970, when I first applied to the Public Carriage Office, at that time under the auspices of the Metropolitan Police, to sign up to do the Knowledge, to be a Black Cab driver, I agonised over a £20 fine I’d had in 1968 for chinning a guy who’d pushed my girlfriend to the floor, while running out of a Chinese restaurant, without paying.Eventually I declared it, and was told, “Keep your nose clean for 12 months, then reapply, you’ll be okay then.”
I said, “What would have happened if I hadn’t declared it?”
They said, “We’d have checked your criminal record, found out, and denied you a cab driver’s licence.”
So I’m surprised that the copper’s record wasn’t checked before giving him a Warrant Card.
It sounds like he was asked, “Done any crime?” He said, “No”, and he got the job.
Frank7 said:
So I’m surprised that the copper’s record wasn’t checked before giving him a Warrant Card.
It sounds like he was asked, “Done any crime?” He said, “No”, and he got the job.
It was checked. He had no criminal record either when he was vetted or when he was sworn in, nor was pending anything when vetted. It sounds like he was asked, “Done any crime?” He said, “No”, and he got the job.
The issue was the period of time between vetting him and him starting. There was no mechanism to identify that he had been subject to serious allegations in another force area during this time period.
Frank7 said:
ash73 said:
Major fk up in the vetting process; someone needs to lose their job over this.
I realise that my example isn’t in the same league as this copper’s offence, but in 1970, when I first applied to the Public Carriage Office, at that time under the auspices of the Metropolitan Police, to sign up to do the Knowledge, to be a Black Cab driver, I agonised over a £20 fine I’d had in 1968 for chinning a guy who’d pushed my girlfriend to the floor, while running out of a Chinese restaurant, without paying.Eventually I declared it, and was told, “Keep your nose clean for 12 months, then reapply, you’ll be okay then.”
I said, “What would have happened if I hadn’t declared it?”
They said, “We’d have checked your criminal record, found out, and denied you a cab driver’s licence.”
So I’m surprised that the copper’s record wasn’t checked before giving him a Warrant Card.
It sounds like he was asked, “Done any crime?” He said, “No”, and he got the job.
Compare the vetting procedure when Harwood rejoined the police:
"Job history?"
"In another police force, investigated for excessive violence, left on health grounds"
"Welcome to this police force"
They learnt a whole new set of lessons then, too. Hopefully we'll soon have a new opportunity for yet more lessons to be learned. The way things are going we'll have an incredibly well-educated set of institutions. The best thing about it is how nobody is ever found to have done anything wrong- exoneration all round and everybody wins (except for the victims, of course).
I'm proud to pay towards the whole thing.
"Job history?"
"In another police force, investigated for excessive violence, left on health grounds"
"Welcome to this police force"
They learnt a whole new set of lessons then, too. Hopefully we'll soon have a new opportunity for yet more lessons to be learned. The way things are going we'll have an incredibly well-educated set of institutions. The best thing about it is how nobody is ever found to have done anything wrong- exoneration all round and everybody wins (except for the victims, of course).
I'm proud to pay towards the whole thing.
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