8 british troops dead in 24 hours
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8145735.stm
What hope is there when our government's massively deluded foreign secretary is so convinced that this is right? This is such a dangerous mind set to be in.
If anything should boil your piss it should be things like this.
RIP all involved, you do a smashing job, it's just a shame the reasons you gave your life for don't seem right at all!
What hope is there when our government's massively deluded foreign secretary is so convinced that this is right? This is such a dangerous mind set to be in.
If anything should boil your piss it should be things like this.
RIP all involved, you do a smashing job, it's just a shame the reasons you gave your life for don't seem right at all!
thinfourth2 said:
We as a country shouldn't be there. Sadly our leaders reputation is more important then squaddies lives
Spot on there, just read the article, pissing in the wind comes to the forefront, my view is that terrorists are now a a way of life, and we are an easy target, but dont worry, just keep letting tom dick and harry come in, no problem.
Edited by Vipers on Saturday 11th July 12:35
thinfourth2 said:
We as a country shouldn't be there
Sadly our leaders reputation is more important then squaddies lives
I would rephrase that too "if we do need to be there then soldiers should be given adequate support and equipment".Sadly our leaders reputation is more important then squaddies lives
Labour have been very keen on sending soldiers to the world's trouble spots, but far less keen on funding the armed services accordingly.
The blood of every serviceman who dies in an obsolete armoured vehicle is on Brown's hands.
The only reason we are now a terrorist target is because we have been meddling in a terrorist nurturing country like Afghanistan. If we had left them alone we would not be a target.
That is of course assuming that international terrorism is based in a 3rd world s
t hole like Afghanistan and not somewhere better that would never be invaded or attacked like say Italy, France, USA, Britain.....the list can on on a lot more.
That is of course assuming that international terrorism is based in a 3rd world s
t hole like Afghanistan and not somewhere better that would never be invaded or attacked like say Italy, France, USA, Britain.....the list can on on a lot more.FourWheelDrift said:
The only reason we are now a terrorist target is because we have been meddling in a terrorist nurturing country like Afghanistan. If we had left them alone we would not be a target.
That is of course assuming that international terrorism is based in a 3rd world st hole like Afghanistan and not somewhere better that would never be invaded or attacked like say Italy, France, USA, Britain.....the list can on on a lot more.
saudi or saudi or maybe saudiThat is of course assuming that international terrorism is based in a 3rd world s
t hole like Afghanistan and not somewhere better that would never be invaded or attacked like say Italy, France, USA, Britain.....the list can on on a lot more.
The other irony is that the mission is also to cut off the supply of heroin to this country... but there is no supply without demand and Labour have done NOTHING to tackle the root causes of the drug problem in THIS country - i.e. tackle the attitudes of the people that turn to drugs, provide them with a viable alternative and destroy the criminal underclass that thrives on the drug trade. All it's done is spouted hot air, wasted billions and is now wasting soldiers' lives. SHAME ON THEM.
I was in Wootton Bassett yesterday and as I was about to leave I came across a huge crowd of people and military lining the streets awaiting the latest procession of funeral cars from Lynham.
It was only when I got home last night and turned on the national news that I saw the siginificant of yesterday's paying of respects. I really wish I had stayed in the town to do the same.
It was only when I got home last night and turned on the national news that I saw the siginificant of yesterday's paying of respects. I really wish I had stayed in the town to do the same.
FourWheelDrift said:
The only reason we are now a terrorist target is because we have been meddling in a terrorist nurturing country like Afghanistan. If we had left them alone we would not be a target.
That is of course assuming that international terrorism is based in a 3rd world st hole like Afghanistan and not somewhere better that would never be invaded or attacked like say Italy, France, USA, Britain.....the list can on on a lot more.
And so the gradual rewrite of history continues...That is of course assuming that international terrorism is based in a 3rd world s
t hole like Afghanistan and not somewhere better that would never be invaded or attacked like say Italy, France, USA, Britain.....the list can on on a lot more.loltolhurst said:
Muntu said:
FourWheelDrift said:
If we had left them alone we would not be a target.
... As will the people of India
... and pakistan
etc
etc
etc
Muntu said:
loltolhurst said:
Muntu said:
FourWheelDrift said:
If we had left them alone we would not be a target.
... As will the people of India
... and pakistan
etc
etc
etc
Muntu said:
The people of Bali will be pleased to hear that.
... As will the people of India
... and pakistan
etc
etc
etc
If you think the Bali bombings were targeting the Balinese then you're way off the mark. Bali was hit because it is a holiday destination of European, US and Australian people. 152 of the 182 deaths were foreign nationals. It was an easy, soft target. India and pakistan have been knocking 12 shades of s... As will the people of India
... and pakistan
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t out of each other for years now be it terrorist or otherwise. We have been in Afghanistan since 2001, the Bali bombings were in 2002. You work it out.FourWheelDrift said:
If you think the Bali bombings were targeting the Balinese then you're way off the mark. Bali was hit because it is a holiday destination of European, US and Australian people. 152 of the 182 deaths were foreign nationals. It was an easy, soft target. India and pakistan have been knocking 12 shades of st out of each other for years now be it terrorist or otherwise. We have been in Afghanistan since 2001, the Bali bombings were in 2002. You work it out.
Muslims are crap at geography? t out of each other for years now be it terrorist or otherwise. We have been in Afghanistan since 2001, the Bali bombings were in 2002. You work it out.Muntu said:
loltolhurst said:
dont see what bali etc has to do with it im talking about our country and making it safer
No, actually you were the one who brought other countries into the discussion: "iraq and afganistan... switzerland, iceland" as they were presumably relevant to your argument. loltolhurst said:
i was defending the chap that says if we werent there we'd be less of a target which is true. our country would be safer if we had not been involved in afgan/iraq in the same way noone bombs switzerland, iceland etc as they do not get involved. as has been said bali is directly linked to the involvement in iraq etc and india / pakistan is a totally diff conflict. you think our country is safer due to being in iraq/afgan?
I don't think that currently we are any less safe. Long term, yes, I believe that our (the West's) involvement there will pay dividends.The Madrid bombings happened after Spain withdrew from Iraq. The terrorist incidents in India and pakistan are not "a totally different conflict", as you put it.
As for "if we werent there we'd be less of a target" sometimes you have to have the balls to stand up for what you believe in, rather than be a coward (not directed at you personally) and hope that they will get to you last. Niemoller's poem springs to mind here...
BIANCO said:
loltolhurst said:
Muntu said:
FourWheelDrift said:
If we had left them alone we would not be a target.
As soon as we give up and stop fighting then it’s the end of our power just as when the Romans spelled the end of there empire when they gave up and started building walls.
If you want to stop these terrorists buy not fighting I suggest you buy yourself a Quran and start going to the mosque. And hand all of our power and wealth over to them.
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