Nick Griffin on LBC this morning

Nick Griffin on LBC this morning

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ln1234

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848 posts

199 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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You want this bumbling fool running this country? Nick Ferrari is his usual arrogant self, but Mr. Griffin is doing himself no favours when he comes under scrutiny. The UK would be outcast and a laughing stock under some of his policies.

LBC Nick Griffin Radio Interview

You can listen to UKIP and the Greens as well, or click on 3 to get the relevant interview

clicdallara

143 posts

203 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Like Cowan, Griffin is a waste of space!

essexplumber

7,751 posts

174 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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I missed Prick Griffin but did you hear the green cndidate? He wants to scrap our nuclear detterent altogether and use the money that saves to build some social clubs for criminals!!!

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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I want to scrap our nuclear so-called deterrent also. What, or who, do we think it will deter?

essexplumber

7,751 posts

174 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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Pothole said:
I want to scrap our nuclear so-called deterrent also. What, or who, do we think it will deter?
I'll sleep easier having it than not.

ShadownINja

76,528 posts

283 months

Thursday 22nd April 2010
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ln1234 said:
You want this bumbling fool running this country? Nick Ferrari is his usual arrogant self, but Mr. Griffin is doing himself no favours when he comes under scrutiny. The UK would be outcast and a laughing stock under some of his policies.
From memory, his lack of knowledge of how much savings accounts are guaranteed was embarrassing but largely I found it difficult, in sound bite format, to disagree with what he said. As for the British vs English thing, Ferrari needs to do his research as do the replies to my post disagreeing with me. wink

(But I'm not stupid so he won't get my vote.)

Edited by ShadownINja on Thursday 22 April 22:00

monthefish

20,449 posts

232 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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ln1234 said:
You want this bumbling fool running this country? Nick Ferrari is his usual arrogant self, but Mr. Griffin is doing himself no favours when he comes under scrutiny. The UK would be outcast and a laughing stock under some of his policies.

LBC Nick Griffin Radio Interview

You can listen to UKIP and the Greens as well, or click on 3 to get the relevant interview
I think the man himself is a bit of an idiot, but I must honest that I agree with quite a few of their policies.

BBC Link

BBC website said:
ON THE ECONOMY
Cut public spending on immigration, asylum, EU membership and foreign aid, which the BNP claim accounts for more than £40bn
Cut £18bn it says is spent on tackling global warming, which it describes as "unproved science"
Raise personal tax-free allowance on earnings to £12,500 and inheritance tax threshold to £1m
Work for reduction in Council Tax through the slashing of all "politically correct council functions" and "diversity" schemes
Close legal loopholes which allow tax evasion through transfer pricing and the outsourcing of jobs to foreign nations
Foreign takeovers of significantly-sized UK companies to be judged in the public interest before they can proceed
Laws to separate High Street banks from the investment banking sector and opposition to privatisation of "natural monopolies" such as Royal Mail
Investigate viability of voluntary local currencies and support national network of autonomous local credit unions

ON EUROPE, CRIME AND IMMIGRATION
Halt immigration - in particular from Muslim countries - and deport illegal immigrants. Allow legally settled and law-abiding minorities to remain but review citizenship grants awarded since 1997
Deport foreigners convicted of crimes in Britain, regardless of immigration status, ban the burka and building of mosques. Deport radical Islamist preachers
Increase UK Border Agency funding, withdraw from EU, repeal Race Relations Act and scrap Equalities and Human Rights Commission. Scrap ID cards
Review the Police and Criminal Evidence Act to remove unnecessary bureaucracy from police duties
Reintroduce capital punishment for drug dealers, child murderers, multiple murderers, murderers of policemen on duty and terrorists
Reintroduce right of householders to defend themselves and their property, "using whatever means they deem necessary"
Establish penal station for "extremely dangerous/violent repeat criminals", including rapists, on the British island of South Georgia

ON SCHOOLS AND FAMILIES
"British concepts" of civility and courteousness to be taught in schools, along with British history and English, Irish, Scots and Welsh culture and traditions
Reverse budget cuts on education and bring back "traditional syllabi and teaching methods", along with streaming and grammar schools
Bring back academic and sporting competition at all levels of education
Free university education to students who have completed community service
Rebuild Britain's skills base through subsidies to engineering and science institutions and their students

ON HEALTH
Reallocate money designated for foreign aid to increase spending on frontline staff, while reducing bureaucracy and restricting managers' pay to £100,000 per year
Prioritise employment of people at affordable wages, halt recruitment of Third World-origin staff and end "health tourism" in UK
Cut waiting times and service difficulties by relieving immigration burden upon the NHS

ON WELFARE AND PERSONAL FINANCE
Halt payment of benefits, and provision of housing, education and pensions to foreigners "who have not paid into the system"
Education and training to help unemployed back into work - in return for set number of hours work per week
Those out of work for 18 months or more to participate in local work schemes in return for benefits
Aim to increase state pension to £150 per week during the parliament, link to earnings and restrict to Britons and those who have "fully paid into the system"
Reduce annual allowance for tax relief on pension contributions to £75,000
Convene national conference of employers and workers' representatives to resolve public sector pension difficulties, raising the age of retirement to 68 over "a period of years"

ON POLITICAL REFORM
Devolve all powers properly capable of exercise to local level, reviving county council government
Create an English parliament, alongside a pan-British parliament to oversee policy areas currently determined by Westminster - inviting the Irish Republic to join as an equal partner
Reform the House of Lords to include non-party political experts and individuals chosen for talent and service
Introduce "citizens' initiative" referendums to force government to adhere to the will of voters on specific subjects
Bill of Rights guaranteeing basic civil liberties, repeal 1998 Human Rights Act and withdraw from the European Convention on Human Rights
Restrict use of postal voting to those incapable of getting to polling stations

IN OTHER AREAS
End involvement of British troops in the Afghanistan conflict, withdraw forces form Germany and stop Britain becoming involved in war with Iran
Renegotiate UK presence in NATO, raise defence spending by 1% over the rate of inflation for five years
Ensure National Lottery funding spent on projects enhancing British culture. Introduce formal bank holidays marking patron saints days of all UK nations
Tax concessions for pubs, lower alcohol tax and supervised smoking rooms in pubs
Laws to hold journalists and media outlets criminally liable for knowingly publishing falsehoods and media complaints body with power to grant right of reply with equal prominence to defamed people
Reverse privatisation of railways, invest in 200mph magnetic levitation inter-city rail network
Reduce fuel prices through tax policy, charge foreign trucks for the right to use Britain's road network
Develop alternative farming British subsidies to those of the EU, ban genetically modified produce, encourage regeneration of family farms and introduce 200-mile coastal fishing exclusivity zone
Place local councils under a legal duty to build a number of homes set to a percentage of the waiting list total each year, with "local connection tests" for housing applicants
Protectionist policy for the local IT industry, nationalise telecoms infrastructure to enable creation of UK-wide not-for-profit 100Mbps broadband service across the country

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

195 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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essexplumber said:
Pothole said:
I want to scrap our nuclear so-called deterrent also. What, or who, do we think it will deter?
I'll sleep easier having it than not.
I'd sleep easier knowing our troops are better equiped to protect us too.

I can see the point in the euro fighters....since Air superiority is SOO critical in modern warfare......but I really can't see the need for Nuclear weapons which will never be fired, since the 'potential' targets will always include more civilians than enemies.

HundredthIdiot

4,414 posts

285 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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Spiritual_Beggar said:
I can see the point in the euro fighters....since Air superiority is SOO critical in modern warfare......but I really can't see the need for Nuclear weapons which will never be fired, since the 'potential' targets will always include more civilians than enemies.
Missiles. And Robots. That's what we need. Yes, robots with missiles.

gamefreaks

1,975 posts

188 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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monthefish said:
ln1234 said:
You want this bumbling fool running this country? Nick Ferrari is his usual arrogant self, but Mr. Griffin is doing himself no favours when he comes under scrutiny. The UK would be outcast and a laughing stock under some of his policies.

LBC Nick Griffin Radio Interview

You can listen to UKIP and the Greens as well, or click on 3 to get the relevant interview
I think the man himself is a bit of an idiot, but I must honest that I agree with quite a few of their policies.

BBC Link

BBC website said:
ON THE ECONOMY
Cut public spending on immigration, asylum, EU membership and foreign aid, which the BNP claim accounts for more than £40bn
Cut £18bn it says is spent on tackling global warming, which it describes as "unproved science"
Raise personal tax-free allowance on earnings to £12,500 and inheritance tax threshold to £1m
Work for reduction in Council Tax through the slashing of all "politically correct council functions" and "diversity" schemes
Close legal loopholes which allow tax evasion through transfer pricing and the outsourcing of jobs to foreign nations
Foreign takeovers of significantly-sized UK companies to be judged in the public interest before they can proceed
Laws to separate High Street banks from the investment banking sector and opposition to privatisation of "natural monopolies" such as Royal Mail
Investigate viability of voluntary local currencies and support national network of autonomous local credit unions

ON EUROPE, CRIME AND IMMIGRATION
Halt immigration - in particular from Muslim countries - and deport illegal immigrants. Allow legally settled and law-abiding minorities to remain but review citizenship grants awarded since 1997
Deport foreigners convicted of crimes in Britain, regardless of immigration status, ban the burka and building of mosques. Deport radical Islamist preachers
Increase UK Border Agency funding, withdraw from EU, repeal Race Relations Act and scrap Equalities and Human Rights Commission. Scrap ID cards
Review the Police and Criminal Evidence Act to remove unnecessary bureaucracy from police duties
Reintroduce capital punishment for drug dealers, child murderers, multiple murderers, murderers of policemen on duty and terrorists
Reintroduce right of householders to defend themselves and their property, "using whatever means they deem necessary"
Establish penal station for "extremely dangerous/violent repeat criminals", including rapists, on the British island of South Georgia

ON SCHOOLS AND FAMILIES
"British concepts" of civility and courteousness to be taught in schools, along with British history and English, Irish, Scots and Welsh culture and traditions
Reverse budget cuts on education and bring back "traditional syllabi and teaching methods", along with streaming and grammar schools
Bring back academic and sporting competition at all levels of education
Free university education to students who have completed community service
Rebuild Britain's skills base through subsidies to engineering and science institutions and their students

ON HEALTH
Reallocate money designated for foreign aid to increase spending on frontline staff, while reducing bureaucracy and restricting managers' pay to £100,000 per year
Prioritise employment of people at affordable wages, halt recruitment of Third World-origin staff and end "health tourism" in UK
Cut waiting times and service difficulties by relieving immigration burden upon the NHS

ON WELFARE AND PERSONAL FINANCE
Halt payment of benefits, and provision of housing, education and pensions to foreigners "who have not paid into the system"
Education and training to help unemployed back into work - in return for set number of hours work per week
Those out of work for 18 months or more to participate in local work schemes in return for benefits
Aim to increase state pension to £150 per week during the parliament, link to earnings and restrict to Britons and those who have "fully paid into the system"
Reduce annual allowance for tax relief on pension contributions to £75,000
Convene national conference of employers and workers' representatives to resolve public sector pension difficulties, raising the age of retirement to 68 over "a period of years"

ON POLITICAL REFORM
Devolve all powers properly capable of exercise to local level, reviving county council government
Create an English parliament, alongside a pan-British parliament to oversee policy areas currently determined by Westminster - inviting the Irish Republic to join as an equal partner
Reform the House of Lords to include non-party political experts and individuals chosen for talent and service
Introduce "citizens' initiative" referendums to force government to adhere to the will of voters on specific subjects
Bill of Rights guaranteeing basic civil liberties, repeal 1998 Human Rights Act and withdraw from the European Convention on Human Rights
Restrict use of postal voting to those incapable of getting to polling stations

IN OTHER AREAS
End involvement of British troops in the Afghanistan conflict, withdraw forces form Germany and stop Britain becoming involved in war with Iran
Renegotiate UK presence in NATO, raise defence spending by 1% over the rate of inflation for five years
Ensure National Lottery funding spent on projects enhancing British culture. Introduce formal bank holidays marking patron saints days of all UK nations
Tax concessions for pubs, lower alcohol tax and supervised smoking rooms in pubs
Laws to hold journalists and media outlets criminally liable for knowingly publishing falsehoods and media complaints body with power to grant right of reply with equal prominence to defamed people
Reverse privatisation of railways, invest in 200mph magnetic levitation inter-city rail network
Reduce fuel prices through tax policy, charge foreign trucks for the right to use Britain's road network
Develop alternative farming British subsidies to those of the EU, ban genetically modified produce, encourage regeneration of family farms and introduce 200-mile coastal fishing exclusivity zone
Place local councils under a legal duty to build a number of homes set to a percentage of the waiting list total each year, with "local connection tests" for housing applicants
Protectionist policy for the local IT industry, nationalise telecoms infrastructure to enable creation of UK-wide not-for-profit 100Mbps broadband service across the country
Thats the problem. Really can't find much to disagree with there.

Isn't this the sort of policies the tories should be coming up with. No instead we get that tt CMD!

Martin_Hx

3,956 posts

199 months

Colin 1985

1,921 posts

171 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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BBC website said:
Establish penal station for "extremely dangerous/violent repeat criminals", including rapists, on the British island of South Georgia
The Rock! Zero chance of escape!

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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Colin 1985 said:
BBC website said:
Establish penal station for "extremely dangerous/violent repeat criminals", including rapists, on the British island of South Georgia
The Rock! Zero chance of escape!
Shackleton broke in, maybe someone can break out...

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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essexplumber said:
Pothole said:
I want to scrap our nuclear so-called deterrent also. What, or who, do we think it will deter?
I'll sleep easier having it than not.
Problem is the secret is out, and as no one has a crystal ball that will tell us what is going to happen, probably better to keep the big stick.

M-J-B

15,004 posts

251 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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monthefish said:
BBC Link

BBC website said:
ON THE ECONOMY
Cut public spending on immigration, asylum, EU membership and foreign aid, which the BNP claim accounts for more than £40bn
Cut £18bn it says is spent on tackling global warming, which it describes as "unproved science"
Raise personal tax-free allowance on earnings to £12,500 and inheritance tax threshold to £1m
Work for reduction in Council Tax through the slashing of all "politically correct council functions" and "diversity" schemes
Close legal loopholes which allow tax evasion through transfer pricing and the outsourcing of jobs to foreign nations
Foreign takeovers of significantly-sized UK companies to be judged in the public interest before they can proceed
Laws to separate High Street banks from the investment banking sector and opposition to privatisation of "natural monopolies" such as Royal Mail
Investigate viability of voluntary local currencies and support national network of autonomous local credit unions

ON EUROPE, CRIME AND IMMIGRATION
Halt immigration - in particular from Muslim countries - and deport illegal immigrants. Allow legally settled and law-abiding minorities to remain but review citizenship grants awarded since 1997
Deport foreigners convicted of crimes in Britain, regardless of immigration status, ban the burka and building of mosques. Deport radical Islamist preachers
Increase UK Border Agency funding, withdraw from EU, repeal Race Relations Act and scrap Equalities and Human Rights Commission. Scrap ID cards
Review the Police and Criminal Evidence Act to remove unnecessary bureaucracy from police duties
Reintroduce capital punishment for drug dealers, child murderers, multiple murderers, murderers of policemen on duty and terrorists
Reintroduce right of householders to defend themselves and their property, "using whatever means they deem necessary"
Establish penal station for "extremely dangerous/violent repeat criminals", including rapists, on the British island of South Georgia

ON SCHOOLS AND FAMILIES
"British concepts" of civility and courteousness to be taught in schools, along with British history and English, Irish, Scots and Welsh culture and traditions
Reverse budget cuts on education and bring back "traditional syllabi and teaching methods", along with streaming and grammar schools
Bring back academic and sporting competition at all levels of education
Free university education to students who have completed community service
Rebuild Britain's skills base through subsidies to engineering and science institutions and their students

ON HEALTH
Reallocate money designated for foreign aid to increase spending on frontline staff, while reducing bureaucracy and restricting managers' pay to £100,000 per year
Prioritise employment of people at affordable wages, halt recruitment of Third World-origin staff and end "health tourism" in UK
Cut waiting times and service difficulties by relieving immigration burden upon the NHS

ON WELFARE AND PERSONAL FINANCE
Halt payment of benefits, and provision of housing, education and pensions to foreigners "who have not paid into the system"
Education and training to help unemployed back into work - in return for set number of hours work per week
Those out of work for 18 months or more to participate in local work schemes in return for benefits
Aim to increase state pension to £150 per week during the parliament, link to earnings and restrict to Britons and those who have "fully paid into the system"
Reduce annual allowance for tax relief on pension contributions to £75,000
Convene national conference of employers and workers' representatives to resolve public sector pension difficulties, raising the age of retirement to 68 over "a period of years"

ON POLITICAL REFORM
Devolve all powers properly capable of exercise to local level, reviving county council government
Create an English parliament, alongside a pan-British parliament to oversee policy areas currently determined by Westminster - inviting the Irish Republic to join as an equal partner
Reform the House of Lords to include non-party political experts and individuals chosen for talent and service
Introduce "citizens' initiative" referendums to force government to adhere to the will of voters on specific subjects
Bill of Rights guaranteeing basic civil liberties, repeal 1998 Human Rights Act and withdraw from the European Convention on Human Rights
Restrict use of postal voting to those incapable of getting to polling stations

IN OTHER AREAS
End involvement of British troops in the Afghanistan conflict, withdraw forces form Germany and stop Britain becoming involved in war with Iran
Renegotiate UK presence in NATO, raise defence spending by 1% over the rate of inflation for five years
Ensure National Lottery funding spent on projects enhancing British culture. Introduce formal bank holidays marking patron saints days of all UK nations
Tax concessions for pubs, lower alcohol tax and supervised smoking rooms in pubs
Laws to hold journalists and media outlets criminally liable for knowingly publishing falsehoods and media complaints body with power to grant right of reply with equal prominence to defamed people
Reverse privatisation of railways, invest in 200mph magnetic levitation inter-city rail network
Reduce fuel prices through tax policy, charge foreign trucks for the right to use Britain's road network
Develop alternative farming British subsidies to those of the EU, ban genetically modified produce, encourage regeneration of family farms and introduce 200-mile coastal fishing exclusivity zone
Place local councils under a legal duty to build a number of homes set to a percentage of the waiting list total each year, with "local connection tests" for housing applicants
Protectionist policy for the local IT industry, nationalise telecoms infrastructure to enable creation of UK-wide not-for-profit 100Mbps broadband service across the country
Wow...well, err, umm...now I'm totally confused.

the problem is I actually agree with quite a lot of that which is a worry....

hairykrishna

13,185 posts

204 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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Pothole said:
I want to scrap our nuclear so-called deterrent also. What, or who, do we think it will deter?
It's the ultimate force escalation, a guarantee that nobody will ever get to dictate what we do via military force or the threat of military force. That might seem a ridiculous requirement at the moment - who would threaten us? Things change quickly in the world though.

I think a few tens of billions isn't that much, in the grand scheme of things, to retain the ultimate 'big stick'.

sjc

14,036 posts

271 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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M-J-B said:
monthefish said:
BBC Link

BBC website said:
ON THE ECONOMY
Cut public spending on immigration, asylum, EU membership and foreign aid, which the BNP claim accounts for more than £40bn
Cut £18bn it says is spent on tackling global warming, which it describes as "unproved science"
Raise personal tax-free allowance on earnings to £12,500 and inheritance tax threshold to £1m
Work for reduction in Council Tax through the slashing of all "politically correct council functions" and "diversity" schemes
Close legal loopholes which allow tax evasion through transfer pricing and the outsourcing of jobs to foreign nations
Foreign takeovers of significantly-sized UK companies to be judged in the public interest before they can proceed
Laws to separate High Street banks from the investment banking sector and opposition to privatisation of "natural monopolies" such as Royal Mail
Investigate viability of voluntary local currencies and support national network of autonomous local credit unions

ON EUROPE, CRIME AND IMMIGRATION
Halt immigration - in particular from Muslim countries - and deport illegal immigrants. Allow legally settled and law-abiding minorities to remain but review citizenship grants awarded since 1997
Deport foreigners convicted of crimes in Britain, regardless of immigration status, ban the burka and building of mosques. Deport radical Islamist preachers
Increase UK Border Agency funding, withdraw from EU, repeal Race Relations Act and scrap Equalities and Human Rights Commission. Scrap ID cards
Review the Police and Criminal Evidence Act to remove unnecessary bureaucracy from police duties
Reintroduce capital punishment for drug dealers, child murderers, multiple murderers, murderers of policemen on duty and terrorists
Reintroduce right of householders to defend themselves and their property, "using whatever means they deem necessary"
Establish penal station for "extremely dangerous/violent repeat criminals", including rapists, on the British island of South Georgia

ON SCHOOLS AND FAMILIES
"British concepts" of civility and courteousness to be taught in schools, along with British history and English, Irish, Scots and Welsh culture and traditions
Reverse budget cuts on education and bring back "traditional syllabi and teaching methods", along with streaming and grammar schools
Bring back academic and sporting competition at all levels of education
Free university education to students who have completed community service
Rebuild Britain's skills base through subsidies to engineering and science institutions and their students

ON HEALTH
Reallocate money designated for foreign aid to increase spending on frontline staff, while reducing bureaucracy and restricting managers' pay to £100,000 per year
Prioritise employment of people at affordable wages, halt recruitment of Third World-origin staff and end "health tourism" in UK
Cut waiting times and service difficulties by relieving immigration burden upon the NHS

ON WELFARE AND PERSONAL FINANCE
Halt payment of benefits, and provision of housing, education and pensions to foreigners "who have not paid into the system"
Education and training to help unemployed back into work - in return for set number of hours work per week
Those out of work for 18 months or more to participate in local work schemes in return for benefits
Aim to increase state pension to £150 per week during the parliament, link to earnings and restrict to Britons and those who have "fully paid into the system"
Reduce annual allowance for tax relief on pension contributions to £75,000
Convene national conference of employers and workers' representatives to resolve public sector pension difficulties, raising the age of retirement to 68 over "a period of years"

ON POLITICAL REFORM
Devolve all powers properly capable of exercise to local level, reviving county council government
Create an English parliament, alongside a pan-British parliament to oversee policy areas currently determined by Westminster - inviting the Irish Republic to join as an equal partner
Reform the House of Lords to include non-party political experts and individuals chosen for talent and service
Introduce "citizens' initiative" referendums to force government to adhere to the will of voters on specific subjects
Bill of Rights guaranteeing basic civil liberties, repeal 1998 Human Rights Act and withdraw from the European Convention on Human Rights
Restrict use of postal voting to those incapable of getting to polling stations

IN OTHER AREAS
End involvement of British troops in the Afghanistan conflict, withdraw forces form Germany and stop Britain becoming involved in war with Iran
Renegotiate UK presence in NATO, raise defence spending by 1% over the rate of inflation for five years
Ensure National Lottery funding spent on projects enhancing British culture. Introduce formal bank holidays marking patron saints days of all UK nations
Tax concessions for pubs, lower alcohol tax and supervised smoking rooms in pubs
Laws to hold journalists and media outlets criminally liable for knowingly publishing falsehoods and media complaints body with power to grant right of reply with equal prominence to defamed people
Reverse privatisation of railways, invest in 200mph magnetic levitation inter-city rail network
Reduce fuel prices through tax policy, charge foreign trucks for the right to use Britain's road network
Develop alternative farming British subsidies to those of the EU, ban genetically modified produce, encourage regeneration of family farms and introduce 200-mile coastal fishing exclusivity zone
Place local councils under a legal duty to build a number of homes set to a percentage of the waiting list total each year, with "local connection tests" for housing applicants
Protectionist policy for the local IT industry, nationalise telecoms infrastructure to enable creation of UK-wide not-for-profit 100Mbps broadband service across the country
Wow...well, err, umm...now I'm totally confused.

the problem is I actually agree with quite a lot of that which is a worry....
Me too, and I really don't want to.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Friday 23rd April 2010
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No surprise if people agree with some of what is said in the manifesto, not as if they own the rights to the idea's.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

285 months

Saturday 24th April 2010
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_20...

Not sure what to say.
From the link.
"BNP three use 'troops out' name in three Welsh seats

Three British National Party (BNP) candidates in Wales will not be using the party's name on ballot papers at the general election, it has emerged.
Instead BNP candidates in Swansea East, Swansea West and Gower will appear as "Support Our Troops Bring Them Home".
The BNP said they had not intended just to use that name, but Swansea council said it was the party's decision.
The Electoral Commission said candidates can use a different name under the regulations."

Eric Mc

122,165 posts

266 months

Saturday 24th April 2010
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M-J-B said:
monthefish said:
BBC Link

BBC website said:
ON THE ECONOMY
Cut public spending on immigration, asylum, EU membership and foreign aid, which the BNP claim accounts for more than £40bn
Cut £18bn it says is spent on tackling global warming, which it describes as "unproved science"
Raise personal tax-free allowance on earnings to £12,500 and inheritance tax threshold to £1m
Work for reduction in Council Tax through the slashing of all "politically correct council functions" and "diversity" schemes
Close legal loopholes which allow tax evasion through transfer pricing and the outsourcing of jobs to foreign nations
Foreign takeovers of significantly-sized UK companies to be judged in the public interest before they can proceed
Laws to separate High Street banks from the investment banking sector and opposition to privatisation of "natural monopolies" such as Royal Mail
Investigate viability of voluntary local currencies and support national network of autonomous local credit unions

ON EUROPE, CRIME AND IMMIGRATION
Halt immigration - in particular from Muslim countries - and deport illegal immigrants. Allow legally settled and law-abiding minorities to remain but review citizenship grants awarded since 1997
Deport foreigners convicted of crimes in Britain, regardless of immigration status, ban the burka and building of mosques. Deport radical Islamist preachers
Increase UK Border Agency funding, withdraw from EU, repeal Race Relations Act and scrap Equalities and Human Rights Commission. Scrap ID cards
Review the Police and Criminal Evidence Act to remove unnecessary bureaucracy from police duties
Reintroduce capital punishment for drug dealers, child murderers, multiple murderers, murderers of policemen on duty and terrorists
Reintroduce right of householders to defend themselves and their property, "using whatever means they deem necessary"
Establish penal station for "extremely dangerous/violent repeat criminals", including rapists, on the British island of South Georgia

ON SCHOOLS AND FAMILIES
"British concepts" of civility and courteousness to be taught in schools, along with British history and English, Irish, Scots and Welsh culture and traditions
Reverse budget cuts on education and bring back "traditional syllabi and teaching methods", along with streaming and grammar schools
Bring back academic and sporting competition at all levels of education
Free university education to students who have completed community service
Rebuild Britain's skills base through subsidies to engineering and science institutions and their students

ON HEALTH
Reallocate money designated for foreign aid to increase spending on frontline staff, while reducing bureaucracy and restricting managers' pay to £100,000 per year
Prioritise employment of people at affordable wages, halt recruitment of Third World-origin staff and end "health tourism" in UK
Cut waiting times and service difficulties by relieving immigration burden upon the NHS

ON WELFARE AND PERSONAL FINANCE
Halt payment of benefits, and provision of housing, education and pensions to foreigners "who have not paid into the system"
Education and training to help unemployed back into work - in return for set number of hours work per week
Those out of work for 18 months or more to participate in local work schemes in return for benefits
Aim to increase state pension to £150 per week during the parliament, link to earnings and restrict to Britons and those who have "fully paid into the system"
Reduce annual allowance for tax relief on pension contributions to £75,000
Convene national conference of employers and workers' representatives to resolve public sector pension difficulties, raising the age of retirement to 68 over "a period of years"

ON POLITICAL REFORM
Devolve all powers properly capable of exercise to local level, reviving county council government
Create an English parliament, alongside a pan-British parliament to oversee policy areas currently determined by Westminster - inviting the Irish Republic to join as an equal partner
Reform the House of Lords to include non-party political experts and individuals chosen for talent and service
Introduce "citizens' initiative" referendums to force government to adhere to the will of voters on specific subjects
Bill of Rights guaranteeing basic civil liberties, repeal 1998 Human Rights Act and withdraw from the European Convention on Human Rights
Restrict use of postal voting to those incapable of getting to polling stations

IN OTHER AREAS
End involvement of British troops in the Afghanistan conflict, withdraw forces form Germany and stop Britain becoming involved in war with Iran
Renegotiate UK presence in NATO, raise defence spending by 1% over the rate of inflation for five years
Ensure National Lottery funding spent on projects enhancing British culture. Introduce formal bank holidays marking patron saints days of all UK nations
Tax concessions for pubs, lower alcohol tax and supervised smoking rooms in pubs
Laws to hold journalists and media outlets criminally liable for knowingly publishing falsehoods and media complaints body with power to grant right of reply with equal prominence to defamed people
Reverse privatisation of railways, invest in 200mph magnetic levitation inter-city rail network
Reduce fuel prices through tax policy, charge foreign trucks for the right to use Britain's road network
Develop alternative farming British subsidies to those of the EU, ban genetically modified produce, encourage regeneration of family farms and introduce 200-mile coastal fishing exclusivity zone
Place local councils under a legal duty to build a number of homes set to a percentage of the waiting list total each year, with "local connection tests" for housing applicants
Protectionist policy for the local IT industry, nationalise telecoms infrastructure to enable creation of UK-wide not-for-profit 100Mbps broadband service across the country
Wow...well, err, umm...now I'm totally confused.

the problem is I actually agree with quite a lot of that which is a worry....
Just because a political party makes "sensible" sounding noises dooes not mean they are barking - or even downright dangerous.