St George's day

[SmoothRB]

Hmm first time I ever remember people flying flags from cars and putting other flags elsewhere.

I've been away from the UK for a few years though.

Does this represent a kind of rise of English nationalism in the face of mass immigration and political-correctness?

[Jonny671]

SmoothRB said:

Hmm first time I ever remember people flying flags from cars and putting other flags elsewhere.

I've been away from the UK for a few years though.

Does this represent a kind of rise of English nationalism in the face of mass immigration and political-correctness?

I counted, 3 flags.. Thats all, 3.

I remember when I was younger we done loads for it and i'm only 20

[5unny]

SmoothRB said:

Hmm first time I ever remember people flying flags from cars and putting other flags elsewhere.

I've been away from the UK for a few years though.

Does this represent a kind of rise of English nationalism in the face of mass immigration and political-correctness?

Nope, happens every 2 years when England are in the World Cup or Euro Championships.

[The real Apache]

I saw one St George flag yesterday, one, it's almost as if people are ashamed to do it

[Marf]

SmoothRB said:

Does this represent a kind of rise of English nationalism in the face of mass immigration and political-correctness?

No, it doesnt. Its just people flying the St Georges flag on St Georges day. Funny that.

My whole town has St Georges flag bunting all over the place(including hanging off the outside of a number of indian restaurants). I think anyone who perceives a lack of flags as people being ashamed are a bit off the mark personally.

Edited by Marf on Saturday 24th April 11:11

[SmoothRB]

The real Apache said:

I saw one St George flag yesterday, one, it's almost as if people are ashamed to do it

Well it is painted as a bad thing by the political-cultural elites...meanwhile minority identity is encouraged and reinforced.

[Marf]

SmoothRB said:

The real Apache said:

I saw one St George flag yesterday, one, it's almost as if people are ashamed to do it

Well it is painted as a bad thing by the political-cultural elites

Really surprises me when I hear this. Any concrete evidence of this?

[The real Apache]

Marf said:

SmoothRB said:

Does this represent a kind of rise of English nationalism in the face of mass immigration and political-correctness?

No, it doesnt. Its just people flying the St Georges flag on St Georges day. Funny that.

My whole town has St Georges flag bunting all over the place(including hanging off the outside of a number of indian restaurants). I think anyone who perceives a lack of flags as people being ashamed are a bit off the mark personally.

Edited by Marf on Saturday 24th April 11:11

Depends where you live I suppose,

[Marf]

The real Apache said:

Marf said:

SmoothRB said:

Does this represent a kind of rise of English nationalism in the face of mass immigration and political-correctness?

No, it doesnt. Its just people flying the St Georges flag on St Georges day. Funny that.

My whole town has St Georges flag bunting all over the place(including hanging off the outside of a number of indian restaurants). I think anyone who perceives a lack of flags as people being ashamed are a bit off the mark personally.

Edited by Marf on Saturday 24th April 11:11

Depends where you live I suppose,

Frankly if you choose not to fly the cross because of what you perceive minorities may think, you are the one censoring the flag. Not them.

I guess some people just enjoy playing the poor oppressed white majority card.

Have some fking balls and fly it.

[heebeegeetee]

SmoothRB said:

Hmm first time I ever remember people flying flags from cars and putting other flags elsewhere.

I've been away from the UK for a few years though.

Does this represent a kind of rise of English nationalism in the face of mass immigration and political-correctness?

Nah, it's just a chav-fest.

[The real Apache]

Marf said:

The real Apache said:

Marf said:

SmoothRB said:

Does this represent a kind of rise of English nationalism in the face of mass immigration and political-correctness?

No, it doesnt. Its just people flying the St Georges flag on St Georges day. Funny that.

My whole town has St Georges flag bunting all over the place(including hanging off the outside of a number of indian restaurants). I think anyone who perceives a lack of flags as people being ashamed are a bit off the mark personally.

Edited by Marf on Saturday 24th April 11:11

Depends where you live I suppose,

Frankly if you choose not to fly the cross because of what you perceive minorities may think, you are the one censoring the flag. Not them.

I guess some people just enjoy playing the poor oppressed white majority card.

Have some fking balls and fly it.

I'm sorry but you seem to percieve that it is I who has the problem with it. I made the observation, that is all.

[peterpeter]

SmoothRB said:

The real Apache said:

I saw one St George flag yesterday, one, it's almost as if people are ashamed to do it

Well it is painted as a bad thing by the political-cultural elites...meanwhile minority identity is encouraged and reinforced.

No one is my policital or cultural elite. they are only that if thats what you perceive them to be.

maybe people should just stop moaning and fly the flag. There's plenty down this way and no one seems embarrassed to do so.

In fact the only place seem to really whinge and moan about it is this website.

[Marf]

The real Apache said:

Marf said:

The real Apache said:

Marf said:

SmoothRB said:

Does this represent a kind of rise of English nationalism in the face of mass immigration and political-correctness?

No, it doesnt. Its just people flying the St Georges flag on St Georges day. Funny that.

My whole town has St Georges flag bunting all over the place(including hanging off the outside of a number of indian restaurants). I think anyone who perceives a lack of flags as people being ashamed are a bit off the mark personally.

Edited by Marf on Saturday 24th April 11:11

Depends where you live I suppose,

Frankly if you choose not to fly the cross because of what you perceive minorities may think, you are the one censoring the flag. Not them.

I guess some people just enjoy playing the poor oppressed white majority card.

Have some fking balls and fly it.

I'm sorry but you seem to percieve that it is I who has the problem with it. I made the observation, that is all.

I meant it as a general you, not you personally.

My point still stands though. If someone chooses not to fly the flag based on what they perceive minorities may think of them, they alone are the ones censoring the flag.

[ShadownINja]

Marf said:

My point still stands though. If someone chooses not to fly the flag based on what they perceive minorities may think of them, they alone are the ones censoring the flag.

It's not what the minorities think. It's what the white middle class PC brigade think. They think we'll be offended. I was disappointed it wasn't like St Patrick's Day.

Edited by ShadownINja on Saturday 24th April 12:28

[Marf]

ShadownINja said:

Marf said:

My point still stands though. If someone chooses not to fly the flag based on what they perceive minorities may think of them, they alone are the ones censoring the flag.

It's not the minorities think. It's what the white middle class PC brigade think. They think we'll be offended. I was disappointed it wasn't like St Patrick's Day.

Doesn't change the fact that its spineless self censorship

[CHIEF]

My little pokey town is awash with flags, every lampost, every shop on the high street has these flying, there are literally hundreds of flags just on our high street alone.

[rpguk]

ShadownINja said:

Marf said:

My point still stands though. If someone chooses not to fly the flag based on what they perceive minorities may think of them, they alone are the ones censoring the flag.

It's not what the minorities think. It's what the white middle class PC brigade think. They think we'll be offended. I was disappointed it wasn't like St Patrick's Day.

Edited by ShadownINja on Saturday 24th April 12:28

But where is the evidence about the 'white middle class PC brigade'. It's not St Patrick's Day because it's not sponsored by Diagio - and all the better for it too.

I don't understand this keeping up with the Joneses mentality that comes along EVERY St Georges Day without fail. This year they are having celebrations in Trafalgar Square, I have a few friends who complain every year that they have St Patrick's etc but not St Georges. Are they going now they've got it? No, as it was just an excuse to whine.

There is no law against celebrating St Georges day, if you want to fly a little plastic flag from your car do it, if you want to put on an event do it. Sure, I'd like a comedy hat in the shape of a pint of John Smiths but I wouldn't want the drunken night that goes with it (for what it's worth St Patrick's Day is the one day I make a point of staying in)

We don't do our saints day in the England as they do in other countries, it's probably a good thing as I'm not a big fan of religion. The only real St Georges Day tradition is moaning about how we don't have the same level of celebrations as other countries.

Edited by rpguk on Saturday 24th April 12:46

[ShadownINja]

Marf said:

ShadownINja said:

Marf said:

My point still stands though. If someone chooses not to fly the flag based on what they perceive minorities may think of them, they alone are the ones censoring the flag.

It's not the minorities think. It's what the white middle class PC brigade think. They think we'll be offended. I was disappointed it wasn't like St Patrick's Day.

Doesn't change the fact that its spineless self censorship

Sure... disappointing, really. I was hoping to see more...

[SmoothRB]

Marf said:

Really surprises me when I hear this. Any concrete evidence of this?

How many pro 'english' organisations or bodies receive governments sponsorship or patronisation?

LOTS of minority organisations do. The Welsh and Scots even get their own assemblies.

[SmoothRB]

rpguk said:

We don't do our saints day in the England as they do in other countries, it's probably a good thing as I'm not a big fan of religion. The only real St Georges Day tradition is moaning about how we don't have the same level of celebrations as other countries.

Edited by rpguk on Saturday 24th April 12:46

It's a national day, the religion is virtually irrelevent just like Xmas.

Australia has an Australia day for example.