This Chap With The Disabled Son Who Argued With CMD Earlier.

This Chap With The Disabled Son Who Argued With CMD Earlier.

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Castrol Craig

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18,073 posts

208 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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He sat there and argued the toss with CMD in front of the press, CMD spelt it out clearly and adam boulton from sky news explained it, yet he still argues the toss.

He is being interviewed again as we speak by Kay Burley, and she again points out the point that his son would not be disadvantaged, and he disagrees and has to point out he isnt politically motivated.

Question is, was he?

theaxe

3,561 posts

224 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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What was his name?

Dr Phibes

775 posts

199 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Not sure but would not put anything past the Socialists from using a "plant" to try and damage their opponents.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

235 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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I don't think it's PC to call them 'plants' or 'vegetables' any more

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

266 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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As much as I hate the whole PC bks that goes on, I did feel really sorry for the poor kid who was probably stood there thinking "FFS dad, STFU and get me an ice cream instead"

Quite why the Dad has to be so forthright about it I don't know, it's not sending the best message across in my eyes. Additionally, he very much reminded me of one those posters we get from time to time who never ever listen to reason, and keep on so much that eventually people stop listening and ignore them instead.

Pretty much like CMD did, which I though was fair enough.

SmoothRB

1,700 posts

174 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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neil_bolton said:
Quite why the Dad has to be so forthright about it I don't know, it's not sending the best message across in my eyes. Additionally, he very much reminded me of one those posters we get from time to time who never ever listen to reason, and keep on so much that eventually people stop listening and ignore them instead.

Pretty much like CMD did, which I though was fair enough.
He's angry and frustrated with his son, probably doesn't love him but is in denial.

Sad. Want's someone to blame.

Rouleur

7,064 posts

191 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Hugo a Gogo said:
I don't think it's PC to call them 'plants' or 'vegetables' any more
hehe

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

266 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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SmoothRB said:
neil_bolton said:
Quite why the Dad has to be so forthright about it I don't know, it's not sending the best message across in my eyes. Additionally, he very much reminded me of one those posters we get from time to time who never ever listen to reason, and keep on so much that eventually people stop listening and ignore them instead.

Pretty much like CMD did, which I though was fair enough.
He's angry and frustrated with his son, probably doesn't love him but is in denial.

Sad. Want's someone to blame.
I think you may have typed that wrong but I'll take it in the vein that I think you said.

I don't disagree, but I think no matter how much fustration he had, I'm sure he could have done it with a better degree of humility for his son.


chris watton

22,477 posts

262 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/richardpreston/1...

"Doh! No wonder Cameron's heckler wouldn't let go – he's been on the Moral Maze"

Richard Preston in the DT said:
So there you are, a Tory party flunkey sent out to rustle up some interesting looking people for Dave to meet in Kennington, and you happen upon the perfect-looking combination, a young father and his severely disabled son, on their way to an appointment at the Evelina Children’s Hospital.

Come this way, Mr Cameron would love to meet you! Dad then proceeds to harangue Cameron, fluently and for a good three minutes live on Sky, about what he sees as the Tories’ desire to exclude children like his son from mainstream schools.

Cameron, to his credit, is engaged, patient and repeatedly defends the manifesto: ‘I wrote it, sir’. But he’s going to be mighty hacked off when he discovers that the stooge supplied for pavement banter was Jonathan Bartley, founder and co-director of the Christian think tank Ekklesia.

Kay Burley has just interviewed him on Sky News and concluded: ‘I can tell you’re a reluctant celebrity today’. Well, not exactly. Mr Bartley has been a parliamentary researcher, was a member of John Major’s campaign team against John Redwood, blogs for the Guardian, writes for the Church Times and has appeared on the Moral Maze. No wonder he was practically biting Cameron’s leg as the Tory leader fled.

Spiritual_Beggar

4,833 posts

196 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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chris watton said:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/richardpreston/1...

"Doh! No wonder Cameron's heckler wouldn't let go – he's been on the Moral Maze"

Richard Preston in the DT said:
So there you are, a Tory party flunkey sent out to rustle up some interesting looking people for Dave to meet in Kennington, and you happen upon the perfect-looking combination, a young father and his severely disabled son, on their way to an appointment at the Evelina Children’s Hospital.

Come this way, Mr Cameron would love to meet you! Dad then proceeds to harangue Cameron, fluently and for a good three minutes live on Sky, about what he sees as the Tories’ desire to exclude children like his son from mainstream schools.

Cameron, to his credit, is engaged, patient and repeatedly defends the manifesto: ‘I wrote it, sir’. But he’s going to be mighty hacked off when he discovers that the stooge supplied for pavement banter was Jonathan Bartley, founder and co-director of the Christian think tank Ekklesia.

Kay Burley has just interviewed him on Sky News and concluded: ‘I can tell you’re a reluctant celebrity today’. Well, not exactly. Mr Bartley has been a parliamentary researcher, was a member of John Major’s campaign team against John Redwood, blogs for the Guardian, writes for the Church Times and has appeared on the Moral Maze. No wonder he was practically biting Cameron’s leg as the Tory leader fled.
rofl

In best Snagglepuss voice:- "Exit...Stage Left"

Yeast Lord

329 posts

171 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Seriously immoral stuff, they get more evil everyday. If one of us heckled brown and the press wasn't there we would be labelled terrorists.

MX7

7,902 posts

176 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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I just watched it on the Sky web site, and I can't believe how little some people listen. He hardly lets Cameron finish a sentence, and then tries tells him what's in the Tory manifesto!

There was another one yesterday where a student asked about university fees. Cameron spent a couple of minutes explaining exactly what their policy was, and at the end she said "I don't believe you." If you don't believe him, what's the point in asking about his policy? It's a pretty stupid attitude.

Galsia

2,172 posts

192 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Can you explain all of this 'CMD' business please?

MX7

7,902 posts

176 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Call Me Dave (Cameron)

TankRizzo

7,331 posts

195 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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MX7 said:
I just watched it on the Sky web site, and I can't believe how little some people listen. He hardly lets Cameron finish a sentence, and then tries tells him what's in the Tory manifesto!

There was another one yesterday where a student asked about university fees. Cameron spent a couple of minutes explaining exactly what their policy was, and at the end she said "I don't believe you." If you don't believe him, what's the point in asking about his policy? It's a pretty stupid attitude.
I saw that. Thought it was pretty rude of her actually, especially as he'd taken some time to address her points, and she simply said "I don't believe you". Oh well poppet, back to your lectures and subsidised beer.

Oilchange

8,528 posts

262 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Stooges, simple as that. Probably not a popular comment or even entirely accurate but it does look suspicious to me.

You never see Gordon get a grilling because he is surrounded by Party activists all the time, watch him crumble in front of a proper audience!

Balmoral Green

41,125 posts

250 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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chris watton said:
"Doh! No wonder Cameron's heckler wouldn't let go – he's been on the Moral Maze"

Richard Preston in the DT said:
So there you are, a Tory party flunkey sent out to rustle up some interesting looking people for Dave to meet in Kennington, and you happen upon the perfect-looking combination, a young father and his severely disabled son, on their way to an appointment at the Evelina Children’s Hospital.

Come this way, Mr Cameron would love to meet you! Dad then proceeds to harangue Cameron, fluently and for a good three minutes live on Sky, about what he sees as the Tories’ desire to exclude children like his son from mainstream schools.

Cameron, to his credit, is engaged, patient and repeatedly defends the manifesto: ‘I wrote it, sir’. But he’s going to be mighty hacked off when he discovers that the stooge supplied for pavement banter was Jonathan Bartley, founder and co-director of the Christian think tank Ekklesia.

Kay Burley has just interviewed him on Sky News and concluded: ‘I can tell you’re a reluctant celebrity today’. Well, not exactly. Mr Bartley has been a parliamentary researcher, was a member of John Major’s campaign team against John Redwood, blogs for the Guardian, writes for the Church Times and has appeared on the Moral Maze. No wonder he was practically biting Cameron’s leg as the Tory leader fled.
Whilst it doesn't invalidate his point, or what he wanted to say, a stooge is still a stooge. I think when the media realise who he is, they will feel pretty stupid, especially those that have jumped in with interviewing him immediately, and they clearly still don't know who he is.

CMD handled him really well IMO.

Dr Phibes

775 posts

199 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Dr Phibes said:
Not sure but would not put anything past the Socialists from using a "plant" to try and damage their opponents.
Ah yes I should have thought about the potential double meaning of the word "Plant".

Stooge would have been better

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

266 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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Balmoral Green said:
chris watton said:
"Doh! No wonder Cameron's heckler wouldn't let go – he's been on the Moral Maze"

Richard Preston in the DT said:
So there you are, a Tory party flunkey sent out to rustle up some interesting looking people for Dave to meet in Kennington, and you happen upon the perfect-looking combination, a young father and his severely disabled son, on their way to an appointment at the Evelina Children’s Hospital.

Come this way, Mr Cameron would love to meet you! Dad then proceeds to harangue Cameron, fluently and for a good three minutes live on Sky, about what he sees as the Tories’ desire to exclude children like his son from mainstream schools.

Cameron, to his credit, is engaged, patient and repeatedly defends the manifesto: ‘I wrote it, sir’. But he’s going to be mighty hacked off when he discovers that the stooge supplied for pavement banter was Jonathan Bartley, founder and co-director of the Christian think tank Ekklesia.

Kay Burley has just interviewed him on Sky News and concluded: ‘I can tell you’re a reluctant celebrity today’. Well, not exactly. Mr Bartley has been a parliamentary researcher, was a member of John Major’s campaign team against John Redwood, blogs for the Guardian, writes for the Church Times and has appeared on the Moral Maze. No wonder he was practically biting Cameron’s leg as the Tory leader fled.
Whilst it doesn't invalidate his point, or what he wanted to say, a stooge is still a stooge. I think when the media realise who he is, they will feel pretty stupid, especially those that have jumped in with interviewing him immediately, and they clearly still don't know who he is.

CMD handled him really well IMO.
He gained respect points from me by the way he handled him. He left it to just the right point whereupon it was clear to everyone that he wasn't taking any reason, and CMD was quite polite and justified in walking away.

paddyhasneeds

52,267 posts

212 months

Tuesday 27th April 2010
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