Honest, Friendly, Salt of the Earth Traveller Fraud Probe

Honest, Friendly, Salt of the Earth Traveller Fraud Probe

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Oakey

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27,613 posts

218 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s...

Article said:
A travellers' camp run by a star of TV’s Big Fat Gypsy Weddings is under investigation by council chiefs.

About £1m has been collected in rent over the last 12 years from the site on Duchy Road, Salford, where TV star Paddy Doherty is caretaker.

Salford council, which owns the land, has an agreement with Mr Doherty and the Gypsy Council to run the site.

Under the agreement, which was renewed in 1998, Mr Doherty collects rent from the tenants – estimated to total £70,000 a year.

The agreement states the rent should then to be used to maintain and run the site. But after Mr Doherty’s appearance on the TV programme and a high-profile court case, Salford council, has started a probe. ­

The M.E.N. understands the investigation centres on how rent collected from the 30 pitches is being spent.
No doubt this is simply a misunderstanding and the money is being wisely spent on maintaining the 'traveller' site as opposed to buying brand new Audis each and every year. I'm sure this will all be cleared up swiftly and no wrongdoing will be found.

Bill

53,051 posts

257 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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Ganglandboss said:
Oakey said:
The term you're looking for is 'traveller', 'pikey' would infer some negative connotation toward said individual
The management have spoken and we can no longer use the 'P' word: http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&a...
This, more or less. PH is getting grief for allowing derogatory race related posts to stay, so we would ask you all to help avoid a potentially expensive legal case.

And sorry for the more sensible posts that have been lost in the chop but I felt it would be preferable to start again.

Cheers.

joe_90

4,206 posts

233 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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spent on a Audi a5 convertible that changes alloys.

Engineer1

10,486 posts

211 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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There are two types of traveller, those who move on when they choose and leave the area tidy, and those who move on when the pickings get to slim and the mess they have created is too big. The offensive banned term applies to the sort who make a living lifting items that don't belong to them.

One point, the site manager would have to be fairly daft to appear on TV if he was doing anything too dodgy. Especially as they allowed other, "Travellers" most of whom seemed a little to static, to not be shown or named on TV.

ianash

3,274 posts

185 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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He should use the "Father Ted" defence.

Oakey

Original Poster:

27,613 posts

218 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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Engineer1 said:
There are two types of traveller, those who move on when they choose and leave the area tidy, and those who move on when the pickings get to slim and the mess they have created is too big. The offensive banned term applies to the sort who make a living lifting items that don't belong to them.

One point, the site manager would have to be fairly daft to appear on TV if he was doing anything too dodgy. Especially as they allowed other, "Travellers" most of whom seemed a little to static, to not be shown or named on TV.
You do realise the majority of these travellers can't read or write and therefore are not the sharpest knives in the draw?

carmonk

7,910 posts

189 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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Engineer1 said:
...those who move on when they choose and leave the area tidy...
I think those two were on TV not long ago.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

234 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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Oakey said:
You do realise the majority of these travellers can't read or write and therefore are not the sharpest knives in the draw?
You do realise that being uneducated is not the same as being unintelligent?

exgtt

2,067 posts

214 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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blindswelledrat said:
You do realise that being uneducated is not the same as being unintelligent?
Agreed most of the traveller folk ive met have been sharp as owt - on the ball!

Victor McDade

4,395 posts

184 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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Oakey said:
You do realise the majority of these travellers can't read or write and therefore are not the sharpest knives in the draw?
Is that not a bit racist and bigoted? Surprised PH has let the post stay biggrin

Flintstone

8,644 posts

249 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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He wouldn't be the first to be caught out by appearing in the media, it's got nothing to do with him being a grower of heather and whittler of pegs.

sjc

14,044 posts

272 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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I'm sure this bloke was on "Danny Dyers Hardest Men" in the last year or so?

Somewhatfoolish

4,411 posts

188 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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sjc said:
I'm sure this bloke was on "Danny Dyers Hardest Men" in the last year or so?
Yes he was.

Mind you I must admit I am still a fan of travellers tbh. They have strong family values and ignore the statist scum that are in charge of our horrid country.

Given a decent bit of education they could be immensely useful citizens ya know!

elster

17,517 posts

212 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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Somewhatfoolish said:
Yes he was.

Mind you I must admit I am still a fan of travellers tbh. They have strong family values and ignore the statist scum that are in charge of our horrid country.

Given a decent bit of education they could be immensely useful citizens ya know!
A lot have better education than everyone thinks.

It is similar to saying Chavs represent the general UK population.

Somewhatfoolish

4,411 posts

188 months

Friday 11th March 2011
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elster said:
A lot have better education than everyone thinks.

It is similar to saying Chavs represent the general UK population.
"A lot" might, but through family I know what their usual education is (no, I'm not a traveller - an aunt is a famous, maybe the most famous, educational psychologist!)

Trust me they're mostly rubbishly educated.

elster

17,517 posts

212 months

Friday 11th March 2011
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Somewhatfoolish said:
"A lot" might, but through family I know what their usual education is (no, I'm not a traveller - an aunt is a famous, maybe the most famous, educational psychologist!)

Trust me they're mostly rubbishly educated.
Of the ones I have met over the past few days, they are all taught history and numeracy extremely well.

That goes for all the ones I see in the caravan and lodge industry, which is the sector I see every week.

Somewhatfoolish

4,411 posts

188 months

Friday 11th March 2011
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elster said:
Of the ones I have met over the past few days, they are all taught history and numeracy extremely well.

That goes for all the ones I see in the caravan and lodge industry, which is the sector I see every week.
Selection bias mate.

For a start, don't forget there's more wimmin ones than men ones.

carmonk

7,910 posts

189 months

Friday 11th March 2011
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elster said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
"A lot" might, but through family I know what their usual education is (no, I'm not a traveller - an aunt is a famous, maybe the most famous, educational psychologist!)

Trust me they're mostly rubbishly educated.
Of the ones I have met over the past few days, they are all taught history and numeracy extremely well.
Numeracy to count their money and history for ways to avoid taxes.

Mr E

21,769 posts

261 months

Friday 11th March 2011
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ianash said:
He should use the "Father Ted" defence.
"resting"?

collateral

7,238 posts

220 months

Friday 11th March 2011
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Esox-ish?