Why hasn't Mugabe been arrested?
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From what I've read he's allowed to transit through Italy but why hadn't he been "accidentally" taken to an italian prison?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13248101
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13248101
It's a sensitive issue... Britain or America will be the countries to do something, therefore Italy won't do anything. But if Britain or America do anything, the whole of Africa will rise up and spout on about neo-colonialism, because Mugabe has become some sort of anti-Imperialist martyr for Africans.
F93 said:
It's a sensitive issue... Britain or America will be the countries to do something, therefore Italy won't do anything. But if Britain or America do anything, the whole of Africa will rise up and spout on about neo-colonialism, because Mugabe has become some sort of anti-Imperialist martyr for Africans.
Hadn't considered that... Saying that, he does have [I]no[/] oil....james_tigerwoods said:
Hadn't considered that... Saying that, he does have [I]no[/] oil....
True, but lots of diamonds and potentially gold as well, along with some of the best farmland in Africa... Zimbabwe's potentially very wealthy. (As in, it was before 1970) What I think will happen is that as he becomes more irrelevant and pointless, he'll either loose support and the US and UK will act in some way to get rid of him, or he'll become more unpopular and run off to China and create the first diplomatic upheaval between China and the West about how to deal with crap leaders...
F93 said:
because Mugabe has become some sort of anti-Imperialist martyr for Africans.
He is the last of the "brotherhood" of freedom fighters still in power. He was a political prisoner for a decade, he led the anti-Ian Smith UDI regime freedom fighters, he genuinely won the first elections as Prime Minister. He has one many elections since, but under his own interpretation of the basic rules. These are the key reasons the ANC in SA will not speak against him. Many others in Africa still regard him as a hero.
Why he gets an exemption to go to the Vatican for the Pope's cannoning (or whatever it is called) is a bit odd.
Just because he is a Catholic is surely the Vatican City / RC church giving the wrong message.
Why was he even invited ? I assume he was invited and did not just announce he was coming to outfox the EU/UK/USA etc.
F93 said:
But if Britain or America do anything, the whole of Africa will rise up and spout on about neo-colonialism, because Mugabe has become some sort of anti-Imperialist martyr for Africans.
Hole in one! I never cease to be amazed by the pathetic UK/US approach to all things African.No wonder the Chinese are gradually sneaking in to make it their second continent.
China sneaks in in some places, yet struggles in others. Angola regularly bosses Chinese companies around, recently they told Sinopec to p
s off after they tried to outsmart the Angolan government and avoid paying. The company went back begging to Angola with a considerably higher amount of money offered. Why? Because Angola has close connections with Brazil (because of historical colonial links with Portugal), therefore can tell China to ps off and still develop.
Zimbabwe is virgin territory for China. There's no matron-country, as thank god! The UK has cut off any sort of help to its former colonial possesions, ending the terrible slavery that existed there under British rule. Therefore, most of Africa's formerly French and UK possesions have fallen apart (because of US pressure to 'leave them alone' and because of EU tariffs strangling their food-based economies) are a massive open door for Chinese entrepreneurs, who out compete starving Africans and piss everyone off in the process, then when any British person sympathizes with Africans they cry NEO-COLONIALISM.
Apart from eventually China'll get pissed off when all their companies have to be run by black Zimbabweans, employ nearly all black zimbabweans and so on. And they'll no doubt get pissed off when, inevitably, it keeps getting portrayed as an opinion-less force for its own right. It doesn't like to be seen as a bad country. All we have to do in England is moan about it! And, maybe tell the EU to let Africans sell us cheap grain? Rather than paying 34245608934756 times as much for the French equivalent?
I have much to say about Africa
s off after they tried to outsmart the Angolan government and avoid paying. The company went back begging to Angola with a considerably higher amount of money offered. Why? Because Angola has close connections with Brazil (because of historical colonial links with Portugal), therefore can tell China to ps off and still develop. Zimbabwe is virgin territory for China. There's no matron-country, as thank god! The UK has cut off any sort of help to its former colonial possesions, ending the terrible slavery that existed there under British rule. Therefore, most of Africa's formerly French and UK possesions have fallen apart (because of US pressure to 'leave them alone' and because of EU tariffs strangling their food-based economies) are a massive open door for Chinese entrepreneurs, who out compete starving Africans and piss everyone off in the process, then when any British person sympathizes with Africans they cry NEO-COLONIALISM.
Apart from eventually China'll get pissed off when all their companies have to be run by black Zimbabweans, employ nearly all black zimbabweans and so on. And they'll no doubt get pissed off when, inevitably, it keeps getting portrayed as an opinion-less force for its own right. It doesn't like to be seen as a bad country. All we have to do in England is moan about it! And, maybe tell the EU to let Africans sell us cheap grain? Rather than paying 34245608934756 times as much for the French equivalent?
I have much to say about Africa
james_tigerwoods said:
tubbystu said:
Why was he even invited?
From what I read, he wasn't - he's catholic and as a head of state with relations with the Vatican, he's entitled to turn up.knock down some of those nasty old buildings to make room for the runway and a.t.c can be based on the popes balcony.
jobs a good un!
Muntu said:
F93 said:
ending the terrible slavery that existed there under British rule
I also wonder how many people realise that the biggest slavers were the blacks, tribe would fight tribe, enslave the losers and sell them to the whites.
jimothy said:
I wonder if that slavery was as bad as the muslim slavery before hand, or the black slavery...
I also wonder how many people realise that the biggest slavers were the blacks, tribe would fight tribe, enslave the losers and sell them to the whites.
There is nothing like a good white imperialist apologist to set the tone for PHI also wonder how many people realise that the biggest slavers were the blacks, tribe would fight tribe, enslave the losers and sell them to the whites.
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