When Mrs T finally goes to the big colliery in the sky....

When Mrs T finally goes to the big colliery in the sky....

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theironduke

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6,995 posts

190 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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Am i correct in thinking that she is due to get a full state funeral?

If so just how do we think this would work? After watching the wedding, 500k happy people lining the streets, i was wondering how Maggies final farwell would go.... Lady Di and the Queen mum both got big turn outs and very dignified days but i cant help thinking it could be a very ugly day if Mrs T had the same send off.... Less streets lined with well wishers but more riots and general nastyness..

Thoughts?

ChiChoAndy

73,668 posts

257 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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It would be fairly tasteless to turn a funeral into a political statement. I think history looks on Thatcher kindly. I think Scargill, and their ilk need to be the ones who should bear the brunt.

ralphrj

3,557 posts

193 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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theironduke said:
Am i correct in thinking that she is due to get a full state funeral?
State funerals for non-Royals are very rare. The last was for Winston Churchill in 1965.

Baroness Thatcher may be given a state funeral but no-one has said for definite whether she will or not.

fergywales

1,624 posts

196 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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ralphrj said:
State funerals for non-Royals are very rare. The last was for Winston Churchill in 1965.

Baroness Thatcher may be given a state funeral but no-one has said for definite whether she will or not.
The Wail disagrees (self-flagellating now for posting link hehe )
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1034634/La...

V88Dicky

7,311 posts

185 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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Well, I for one will be applying for a street party license.













When Winky kicks the bucket.

What a joyous event biggrin

Victor McDade

4,395 posts

184 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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If Labour are in power at the time I think it will go reasonably well. If the Tories are in government though I think we'll see the lefties use it as an excuse to protest against Maggie/the present gov't all in one.

ninja-lewis

4,274 posts

192 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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No chance I'd imagine. No other Prime Minister has received a state funeral since Churchill and her relationship with the royal family is nothing like Churchill's was.

Private funeral with a memorial service at Westminster Abbey is the best bet.

colonel c

7,893 posts

241 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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ralphrj said:
theironduke said:
Am i correct in thinking that she is due to get a full state funeral?
State funerals for non-Royals are very rare. The last was for Winston Churchill in 1965.

Baroness Thatcher may be given a state funeral but no-one has said for definite whether she will or not.
Churchill united the nation. Thatcher divided it.

DJRC

23,563 posts

238 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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colonel c said:
Churchill united the nation. Thatcher divided it.
Thatcher saved it.

She also divided it. Strangely enough one could argue the same with Winnie.

Its a funny old world.

ChiChoAndy

73,668 posts

257 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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colonel c said:
Churchill united the nation. Thatcher divided it.
No.. Thatcher stopped the country subsidising an industry that was bleeding the coffers dry. What divided the nation was the likes of Skargill who used it as a platform to gain power.

car crazy

1,796 posts

165 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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ChiChoAndy said:
It would be fairly tasteless to turn a funeral into a political statement. I think history looks on Thatcher kindly. I think Scargill, and their ilk need to be the ones who should bear the brunt.
+1

ClaphamGT3

11,361 posts

245 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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I very much fear that it will not be long before we know.


If she is to have a state funeral, it would be richly deserved; those of us old enough to remember life before her time in Government know just how radically she turned this country round. That's before we start to think of what she and Reagan achieved on a global scale

ChiChoAndy

73,668 posts

257 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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let people not forget that many of the collieries, and other industries could well have continued, if it wasn't for the strikes. Skargill, in my opinion, is one of the greasiest, manipulative, and vicious men ever to poke his head into politics. It is HE that should bear the brunt of the countries anger, not Maggie.

fergywales

1,624 posts

196 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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ChiChoAndy said:
let people not forget that many of the collieries, and other industries could well have continued, if it wasn't for the strikes. Skargill, in my opinion, is one of the greasiest, manipulative, and vicious men ever to poke his head into politics. It is HE that should bear the brunt of the countries anger, not Maggie.
This would involve far too much thinking, something not abundant on the subject of Maggie.

dcb

5,851 posts

267 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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colonel c said:
Churchill united the nation. Thatcher divided it.
Possibly only in the minds of a dwindling band of old-style socialists, but to quote Wikipedia

In February 2007 Thatcher became the first living UK Prime Minister to be honoured with a statue in the Houses of Parliament.

and

Geoffrey Howe, by then Lord Howe of Aberavon, was also present, and said of his former leader: "Her real triumph was to have transformed not just one party but two, so that when Labour did eventually return, the great bulk of Thatcherism was accepted as irreversible."

and

Thatcher returned to 10 Downing Street in late November 2009 for the unveiling of an official portrait by the artist Richard Stone,[187] an unusual honour for a living ex-Prime Minister.

On the basis of those three points, I'd say a full state
funeral would be very likely.

I'd say point 2 is the crucial point. However much
some old style socialists grumble, even the new style
Labour party had to accept her point of view as valid,
to get elected.


Night Runner

12,232 posts

196 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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I vaguely remember reading that she wanted some type of maritime burial...

Could be wrong!

Paul Dishman

4,750 posts

239 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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The lefties can't wait to dance on her grave..

Pupp

12,286 posts

274 months

Monday 2nd May 2011
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No doubt it'll be a state funeral followed by instant sainthood rolleyes

randlemarcus

13,548 posts

233 months

Monday 2nd May 2011
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Night Runner said:
I vaguely remember reading that she wanted some type of maritime burial...

Could be wrong!
Paul Dishman said:
The lefties can't wait to dance on her grave..
These two things together may be the beginnings of a plan biggrin



groak

3,254 posts

181 months

Monday 2nd May 2011
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She's more or less dead anyway so why not just bury what's left of her now?
Any crossroads at midnight will do, as long as someone's got the stake, the garlic, and the lead coffin with the crucifix on the lid. And that should be us safe from her for another 1000 years.