Lee Rigby's killer wants compo

[Calletrece]

I'm not a murderer, I may be a massive bleeding heart leftie c*nt with no real principles but I've never killed anyone

[Disastrous]

Pesty said:

Who? The poster above or the murderer

Lee Rigby's killer.

[WinstonWolf]

Calletrece said:

WinstonWolf said:

Vicious? We haven't beheaded anyone...

Not anyone, a 'soldier'.

Anyway, besides that, an eye for an eye makes the whole blind. If you disagree with beheading, you should disagree with punishments from the stone age.

You can't have it both ways.

You can if you're intelligent. He lost his teeth because he was being an asshole, not as a punishment...

Don't kick off in prison and you'll almost certainly leave with the same number you went in with.

[Pesty]

Disastrous said:

Lee Rigby's killer.

Yes I'm aware he may have had many reasons and justifications In his head. Doesn't make them valid. I understand many people feel different about the death penalty but there is a clear difference to me.

[Disastrous]

Pesty said:

Disastrous said:

Lee Rigby's killer.

Yes I'm aware he may have had many reasons and justifications In his head. Doesn't make them valid. I understand many people feel different about the death penalty but there is a clear difference to me.

Fair enough. Just pointing it out as to me it makes us the same as them.

[Calletrece]

WinstonWolf said:

You can if you're intelligent. He lost his teeth because he was being an asshole

I apologise.

Explains why I've not got a full set of teeth.

Retract everything.

[DocJock]

Calletrece said:

Prisoners shouldn't have their teeth knocked out by staff. He is perfectly entitled to expect compensation.

Unless I have missed something, all we know is that he lost two teeth during an altercation with several Prison Officers. That is rather different to "...teeth knocked out by staff".

Have you ever tried to restrain a large, violent prisoner? It is just as feasible that the trauma was not a direct blow from a PO.

[WinstonWolf]

Calletrece said:

WinstonWolf said:

You can if you're intelligent. He lost his teeth because he was being an asshole, not as a punishment

I apologise.

Explains why I've not got a full set of teeth.

Retract everything.

The most pertinent fact is the reason why he lost his teeth...

[MTech535]

Not sure how losing two teeth can equate to 20k compo.


Looks like my daughter owes me 10k

[Digby]

KrazyIvan said:

wiggy001 said:

Can someone please tell me what use the compo will be to him when he is serving a whole life tariff at her majesty's pleasure?

He can use the money to pay compensation to Lee Rigbys family.

Now that would surely keep everyone happy? I would like to see him dragged behind a car for an hour or two, but would settle for the above so long as it was done thus...

Blackadder: Here is a purse of moneys... which I'm not going to give to you.

[With these feet]

Disastrous said:

Pesty said:

Disastrous said:

Lee Rigby's killer.

Yes I'm aware he may have had many reasons and justifications In his head. Doesn't make them valid. I understand many people feel different about the death penalty but there is a clear difference to me.

Fair enough. Just pointing it out as to me it makes us the same as them.

So killing someone = lengthy stay in one of HM's hotels.
I dont care if its not "Christian" but Id stick him in solitary and let the bd die a slow painful death.

There are far too many people that worry about the rights and feelings of scum like this. The world would be a better place without them, they have no issues with blowing themselves up, death to them is the next chapter - let the fkers shuffle off a bit early...

[Honk]

What a . fk him.

[Disastrous]

With these feet said:

Disastrous said:

Pesty said:

Disastrous said:

Lee Rigby's killer.

Yes I'm aware he may have had many reasons and justifications In his head. Doesn't make them valid. I understand many people feel different about the death penalty but there is a clear difference to me.

Fair enough. Just pointing it out as to me it makes us the same as them.

So killing someone = lengthy stay in one of HM's hotels.
I dont care if its not "Christian" but Id stick him in solitary and let the bd die a slow painful death.

There are far too many people that worry about the rights and feelings of scum like this. The world would be a better place without them, they have no issues with blowing themselves up, death to them is the next chapter - let the fkers shuffle off a bit early...

You misunderstand me. My wish not to mete out justice in the form of an eye for eye has absolutely nothing to do with him and everything to do with us.

In all honesty, I'm not sure I would be able to if I were closer to the victim, but as a society we have to be better than them. It's not about their rights or our sunbathe. It's about our humanity.

[Calletrece]

WinstonWolf said:

The most pertinent fact is the reason why he lost his teeth...

Look, I've apologised and retracted my statements.

I don't know what more you want from me.

I was wrong.

I apologise.

I hope I end up acheiving as much in life as this motherf***er. I ain't gettin no taloids fam. I ain't got no holy mission broheim, I got nufing except tolerance and acceptance for tings that aint our soldiers. Dats all fam.

I apologise unreservedly for any offence I've caused.

[TheTrash]

Calletrece said:

Prisoners shouldn't have their teeth knocked out by staff. He is perfectly entitled to expect compensation.

Please do explain how to restrain someone who's going bat st crazy without the possibility of any injuries to anyone involved.

[Calletrece]

I'm not apologising again to you. I'm sorry my views are so wrong. I can't help it.

[Megaflow]

kev1974 said:

ATG said:

Megaflow said:

IMO it is simple, those who choose to break the law, should not expect to be protected or compensated by the law.

I break the speed limit, so you're allowed to burgle my house? I nick a traffic cone, so you're allowed to punch me in the face?

Doesn't really make sense, does it?

well they're not really comparable crimes you've suggested there now are they

you realise him and his buddy actually murdered someone?

loss of a couple of teeth comes somewhere below being murdered I'd say.

Thank you.

I thought the intention behind the post was quite clear. I failed to take into account the audience.

[NRS]

Calletrece said:

I'm not apologising again to you. I'm sorry my views are so wrong. I can't help it.

Well done. Clearly outlining your reasoning and supporting your point.

[anonymous-user]

It's not black and white. Force has to be reasonable in the circumstances. If he's posing a threat / being violent then there's a risk of injury towards himself. That's the nature of the beast. There's a bit of 'because he's bad it's OK' thinking here which is clearly flawed.

The lack of police action is a very good indication that the force was reasonable in the circumstances. However, the police are looking at things from a purely criminal point of view and keep in mind the end goal of criminal proceeds is proving something beyond reasonable doubt. There's probably a lot more leeway for the police to use discretion given there's nearly zero public interest in seeing people restraining him get prosecuted (unless it's obvious they've gone way too far without justification).

The civil area of law (whichever it is) which will be raised here is on 'the balance of probabilities' i.e. 'is it more likely than not?' This is a lower threshold of proof and will be tested in a court. Whilst there's some overlap with the police criminal interest, it's no guarantee there is no case to answer in the civil side of things.

[anonymous-user]

The thing is, the bd has won. He's achieved publicity as its been worldwide news for several days. It would be far better if there was a complete news ban on this category prisoner so that he knows that when the prison door goes clunk that's it for his eternity.
At this rate the can dream up all sorts of ways to continually be in the news.