Hillary Clintons Health
Discussion
Vaud said:
matsoc said:
In the last 20 years 2 out of the 5 youngest ever presidents were elected (B.Clinton and Obama) so I hoped that the trend continued, I do think that a late 40s man/woman can be more suited to such a demanding task that can last 8 years. Both candidates this time are too old.
Both too old, and my main regret for the US is, from the hundreds of millions of people that are eligible, is this the best you can bring to lead a large chunk of the free world?They are both so shockingly average and loony in equal measure.
But then again, I liked Obamas internationalism (though he got a bit professorial), and Bill Clinton for his charm... I like Sarah Palin as she ensured that Obama won again.
Age is only a partial barrier to doing things well. I know people in their 40s who couldn't compete with people 20 to 30 years older, both in fitness and intelligence. Today, it seems par for the course to flash the 'ageist' card. There are a few on PHs. By all means argue against loons taking charge, but not solely on age.
Just to end on, here's our local granny Trish for you, who doesn't, and never has, sat on her ass... (and she's a British Empire Medal holder). She raises so much money, enough to rehome one soldier who'd lost his legs in combat. Perhaps she shouldn't have done it because of her 'age'?
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/14615607.Skies_t...
This weekend she did a wing walk!
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/14735404.Daredev...
Tony Starks said:
J4CKO said:
Isn't just a lady of advancing years, who possibly isn't very fit and under a lot of stress with a busy schedule on a hot day whilst a bit overdressed ?
The Queen seems to handle it quite wellThe Queen isn't running a campaign, she has a fairly full schedule but isn't under the same pressure as a presidential candidate, she has been doing the same job since 1953 so she should be pretty good at it.
hornetrider said:
p1stonhead said:
Leg braces perhaps or some other medical equipment?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzZl9j580tM&fe...
Feel really bad for her if she is truly not well, campaigning must be horrendous anyway without being sick
OK now that is strange.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzZl9j580tM&fe...
Feel really bad for her if she is truly not well, campaigning must be horrendous anyway without being sick
Can you imagine the uproar if Trump was collapsing, unable to speak for coughing fits, being held up by security?
It really is unbelievable.
p1stonhead said:
If she truly is sick and cant continue, would the Democrats be done pretty much? Its not like they can quickly go to a backup choice and continue campaigning like nothing has changed?
Surely the Democrats biggest asset in this election is Trump (and vice versa) so even if they do need to find another candidate it wouldn't be a disaster.BlackLabel said:
p1stonhead said:
If she truly is sick and cant continue, would the Democrats be done pretty much? Its not like they can quickly go to a backup choice and continue campaigning like nothing has changed?
Surely the Democrats biggest asset in this election is Trump (and vice versa) so even if they do need to find another candidate it wouldn't be a disaster.
but in terms of the sickness scenario, does this situation have precedence as to what would happen? Postpone the election? dandarez said:
While I agree in part I dispute vigorously the ageist bit. Illness is something entirely different. Anyone can get ill, at any age. Remember this country's youngest Premier in the last two centuries - one Mr Bliar, in his 40s, the 'young' wonder boy - he turned out well, eh?
Age is only a partial barrier to doing things well. I know people in their 40s who couldn't compete with people 20 to 30 years older, both in fitness and intelligence. Today, it seems par for the course to flash the 'ageist' card. There are a few on PHs. By all means argue against loons taking charge, but not solely on age.
Just to end on, here's our local granny Trish for you, who doesn't, and never has, sat on her ass... (and she's a British Empire Medal holder). She raises so much money, enough to rehome one soldier who'd lost his legs in combat. Perhaps she shouldn't have done it because of her 'age'?
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/14615607.Skies_t...
This weekend she did a wing walk!
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/14735404.Daredev...
Fair points. I am no spring chicken. I don't preclude brilliant older people doing great things. Jimmy Carter is a good example and an outstanding person.Age is only a partial barrier to doing things well. I know people in their 40s who couldn't compete with people 20 to 30 years older, both in fitness and intelligence. Today, it seems par for the course to flash the 'ageist' card. There are a few on PHs. By all means argue against loons taking charge, but not solely on age.
Just to end on, here's our local granny Trish for you, who doesn't, and never has, sat on her ass... (and she's a British Empire Medal holder). She raises so much money, enough to rehome one soldier who'd lost his legs in combat. Perhaps she shouldn't have done it because of her 'age'?
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/14615607.Skies_t...
This weekend she did a wing walk!
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/14735404.Daredev...
I just think the physical demands of the presidency in particular are such that it is better suited to a 40-60 age bracket. I see it as a physical limitation rather than a mental limitation.
p1stonhead said:
BlackLabel said:
p1stonhead said:
If she truly is sick and cant continue, would the Democrats be done pretty much? Its not like they can quickly go to a backup choice and continue campaigning like nothing has changed?
Surely the Democrats biggest asset in this election is Trump (and vice versa) so even if they do need to find another candidate it wouldn't be a disaster. but in terms of the sickness scenario, does this situation have precedence as to what would happen? Postpone the election? GG89 said:
p1stonhead said:
BlackLabel said:
p1stonhead said:
If she truly is sick and cant continue, would the Democrats be done pretty much? Its not like they can quickly go to a backup choice and continue campaigning like nothing has changed?
Surely the Democrats biggest asset in this election is Trump (and vice versa) so even if they do need to find another candidate it wouldn't be a disaster. but in terms of the sickness scenario, does this situation have precedence as to what would happen? Postpone the election? coldsnap said:
GG89 said:
p1stonhead said:
BlackLabel said:
p1stonhead said:
If she truly is sick and cant continue, would the Democrats be done pretty much? Its not like they can quickly go to a backup choice and continue campaigning like nothing has changed?
Surely the Democrats biggest asset in this election is Trump (and vice versa) so even if they do need to find another candidate it wouldn't be a disaster. but in terms of the sickness scenario, does this situation have precedence as to what would happen? Postpone the election? davepoth said:
J4CKO said:
Isn't just a lady of advancing years, who possibly isn't very fit and under a lot of stress with a busy schedule on a hot day whilst a bit overdressed ?
If she can't hack this schedule, what will she be like if she wins? It's a hard job, and if she isn't physically up to it she owes it to her electorate to be up front about it. If she can't cope with the stress of a 9/11 memorial service, how would she cope with another 9/11?
Nanook said:
coldsnap said:
GG89 said:
p1stonhead said:
BlackLabel said:
p1stonhead said:
If she truly is sick and cant continue, would the Democrats be done pretty much? Its not like they can quickly go to a backup choice and continue campaigning like nothing has changed?
Surely the Democrats biggest asset in this election is Trump (and vice versa) so even if they do need to find another candidate it wouldn't be a disaster. but in terms of the sickness scenario, does this situation have precedence as to what would happen? Postpone the election? If she were to win, then die, the VP takes the big job, yeah?
But if she's too sick right now, it just gets handed to the largest opposition?
Should Hillary drop out, the DNC will vote a for a replacement candidate.
It's never happened before, but the expected minimum period between a candidate dropping out and the replacement then being in position and then able to campaign is 1 month.
Leithen said:
Viral pneumonia isn't fun. I know from experience.
Also, anyone remember this guy?
.
He did alright.
Well, he was great man but been seeking re-election 4 times did break a not written agreement...after him they wrote down the rule of max 2.Also, anyone remember this guy?
.He did alright.
Anyway his sudden death left the country in the not so ready hands of Truman...
I'm not bothered who wins and have previously treated HC's health stories as mud slinging, however this latest episode it pretty damming.
She needs to tackle this head on with the media and face up to it (if she can), my guess is though, that her team will lie and evade the subject further damaging her.
She needs to tackle this head on with the media and face up to it (if she can), my guess is though, that her team will lie and evade the subject further damaging her.
WestyCarl said:
I'm not bothered who wins and have previously treated HC's health stories as mud slinging, however this latest episode it pretty damming.
She needs to tackle this head on with the media and face up to it (if she can), my guess is though, that her team will lie and evade the subject further damaging her.
It speaks volumes,imo,that she directly would misinform the American voting public with regard toShe needs to tackle this head on with the media and face up to it (if she can), my guess is though, that her team will lie and evade the subject further damaging her.
her physical conditition. Or allow her team to.
It makes me question why she so desperately desires to be President,
dandarez said:
Vaud said:
matsoc said:
In the last 20 years 2 out of the 5 youngest ever presidents were elected (B.Clinton and Obama) so I hoped that the trend continued, I do think that a late 40s man/woman can be more suited to such a demanding task that can last 8 years. Both candidates this time are too old.
Both too old, and my main regret for the US is, from the hundreds of millions of people that are eligible, is this the best you can bring to lead a large chunk of the free world?They are both so shockingly average and loony in equal measure.
But then again, I liked Obamas internationalism (though he got a bit professorial), and Bill Clinton for his charm... I like Sarah Palin as she ensured that Obama won again.
Age is only a partial barrier to doing things well. I know people in their 40s who couldn't compete with people 20 to 30 years older, both in fitness and intelligence. Today, it seems par for the course to flash the 'ageist' card. There are a few on PHs. By all means argue against loons taking charge, but not solely on age.
Just to end on, here's our local granny Trish for you, who doesn't, and never has, sat on her ass... (and she's a British Empire Medal holder). She raises so much money, enough to rehome one soldier who'd lost his legs in combat. Perhaps she shouldn't have done it because of her 'age'?
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/14615607.Skies_t...
This weekend she did a wing walk!
http://www.oxfordtimes.co.uk/news/14735404.Daredev...
Some roles require maximum experience and wisdom but not heavy daily work so a great old man could be ideal. But POTUS is daily involved in many activities energy consuming, I don't think Hilary could be in office at 77 in perfect shape in 2024.
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