Another Taser disaster.
Discussion
Greendubber said:
It might well have been confusing but dont forget the bloke actually said he decided to ignore what the police had told him to do so its fairly obvious he knew exactly what was going on, yet he decided to ignore the requests being made of him.
I don't see anywhere in the original article where the bloke said this. Do you have a different source?What requests were made of him?
Greendubber said:
bmw535i said:
Greendubber said:
Which was reported to police to be a gun....and turned out to be a folded cane AFTER the bloke had ignored the officers attempting to deal with him verbally.
I suppose if the copper said to him, "put the gun down", it might be quite confusing to him as he wasn't carrying one. I'm actually amazed the police responded to these reports. If only they'd just ordered a macdonalds - the whole thing could have been avoided. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.mirror.co.uk/news...
bmw535i said:
Greendubber said:
It might well have been confusing but dont forget the bloke actually said he decided to ignore what the police had told him to do so its fairly obvious he knew exactly what was going on, yet he decided to ignore the requests being made of him.
I don't see anywhere in the original article where the bloke said this. Do you have a different source?What requests were made of him?
Do you need me to tell you what a police officer would say?
Standard foot approach requests like putting things down, putting up hands and doing exactly what you are told.
Greendubber said:
It was in a couple of the reports I have read, I'll look when I get a chance which ones.
Do you need me to tell you what a police officer would say?
Standard foot approach requests like putting things down, putting up hands and doing exactly what you are told.
I'll look forward to it, thanks.Do you need me to tell you what a police officer would say?
Standard foot approach requests like putting things down, putting up hands and doing exactly what you are told.
Well unless you were there you don't know what was requested of him - therefore your statement about it being obvious that the bloke knew what was happening is just silly.
If he was told to put the gun down, he couldn't, because he didn't have one.
bmw535i said:
Greendubber said:
It was in a couple of the reports I have read, I'll look when I get a chance which ones.
Do you need me to tell you what a police officer would say?
Standard foot approach requests like putting things down, putting up hands and doing exactly what you are told.
I'll look forward to it, thanks.Do you need me to tell you what a police officer would say?
Standard foot approach requests like putting things down, putting up hands and doing exactly what you are told.
Well unless you were there you don't know what was requested of him - therefore your statement about it being obvious that the bloke knew what was happening is just silly.
If he was told to put the gun down, he couldn't, because he didn't have one.
Senior Police Federation official had the integrity to appear on BBC radio interview on the matter after he tweeted asking why a blind man being tasered was news:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08g2tnz
Acting in an agitated manner is sufficient cause to justify being tasered?
Is an open knife more of a threat than a folded blind man's stick?
Is a sighted person more of a threat than a blind person?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08g2tnz
Acting in an agitated manner is sufficient cause to justify being tasered?
Is an open knife more of a threat than a folded blind man's stick?
Is a sighted person more of a threat than a blind person?
Greendubber said:
I think I'd actually rather go and bang my head against a wall than try and explain anything else to you being as you are totally unwilling to accept anything other than the police being useless at everything, ever.
Well you can go round making stuff up about what people said. You can also go round saying it's obvious what happened whilst also berating other people for making assumptions about incidents. It's all just a bit hypocritical.You should leave this stuff to La Liga, he doesn't get all emotional about it.
bmw535i said:
Greendubber said:
I think I'd actually rather go and bang my head against a wall than try and explain anything else to you being as you are totally unwilling to accept anything other than the police being useless at everything, ever.
Well you can go round making stuff up about what people said. You can also go round saying it's obvious what happened whilst also berating other people for making assumptions about incidents. It's all just a bit hypocritical.You should leave this stuff to La Liga, he doesn't get all emotional about it.
Greendubber said:
I think I'd actually rather go and bang my head against a wall than try and explain anything else to you being as you are totally unwilling to accept anything other than the police being useless at everything, ever.
If you can persuade yourself that 2 policeman with a decent collection of weapons tasering a blind man with a stick is an act of incredible bravery & heroism rather than an almighty cock-up then good for you.You might find that this explanation falls on a fair few deaf ears, though. You might also wonder why trust & respect gets eroded.
It was a mistake, simple as that.
Greendubber said:
You just cant help yourself.
Not strictly true.http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2017-01-18/stash-...
carinaman said:
Senior Police Federation official had the integrity to appear on BBC radio interview on the matter after he tweeted asking why a blind man being tasered was news:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08g2tnz
Acting in an agitated manner is sufficient cause to justify being tasered?
Is an open knife more of a threat than a folded blind man's stick?
Is a sighted person more of a threat than a blind person?
Usual defensive Federation party line inputhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08g2tnz
Acting in an agitated manner is sufficient cause to justify being tasered?
Is an open knife more of a threat than a folded blind man's stick?
Is a sighted person more of a threat than a blind person?
Edited by Bigends on Wednesday 1st March 20:58
Tasering a blind man with a folded up guide stick is compliant with the National Decision Making Model?:
https://www.app.college.police.uk/app-content/nati...
In Step 1, the gather information and intelligence step the officers didn't determine that the man was blind or that the thing he was carrying was a folded up guide stick rather than a gun?
Was tasering the blind chap with the folded up guide stick for acting in an 'agitated' manner ethical?
https://www.app.college.police.uk/app-content/nati...
In Step 1, the gather information and intelligence step the officers didn't determine that the man was blind or that the thing he was carrying was a folded up guide stick rather than a gun?
Was tasering the blind chap with the folded up guide stick for acting in an 'agitated' manner ethical?
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