London should become a city state if there's a hard Brexit

London should become a city state if there's a hard Brexit

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AC43

Original Poster:

11,588 posts

210 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Deptford Draylons said:
Its all sounding a bit Passport To Pimlico now.
Best post so far :-)

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

172 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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okgo said:
There are plenty of lovely parts that are even quite green. Just have to know where to look. Suppose you didn't wander too far from Euston eh?
Yes, my over the top angry reaction aside, i've hardly explored the capital much outside the tourist zones, but like i said someone has to oppose the view that london is just gentrification and world class museums. I was just pointing out that others see London as just another nasty gang-centred city.

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Excellent and we have resident passes, anyone who wishes to leave London and visit the charming countryside will be charged 500% more, let's be honest, no one goes to London who doesn't work / live in there other than for a short weekend.

Cut the train tracks
Ground the airports
Block the internet

What a ridiculous notion, why draw the line at London, my street voted remain, or me and my two neighbours did why cant we vote to remain in the EU?

Democracy gives everyone a vote and you cant throw your toys out of the pram because your side did not win, we support the general consensus of the majority, is that not the whole purpose of democracy?

Tango13

8,546 posts

178 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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SystemParanoia said:
London 3 hours after my little siege starts hehe

So life would go on with little or no change? laugh

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

95 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Trexthedinosaur said:
Excellent and we have resident passes, anyone who wishes to leave London and visit the charming countryside will be charged 500% more, let's be honest, no one goes to London who doesn't work / live in there other than for a short weekend.

Cut the train tracks
Ground the airports
Block the internet

What a ridiculous notion, why draw the line at London, my street voted remain, or me and my two neighbours did why cant we vote to remain in the EU?

Democracy gives everyone a vote and you cant throw your toys out of the pram because your side did not win, we support the general consensus of the majority, is that not the whole purpose of democracy?
Only if it goes your way it seems.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

221 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
Electricity, the internet, water. Quite simply London will buy them. Farming out work? If rouk doesn't want work, simply farm it somewhere else. As for the rest of the UK subsidising London, lol.

It'll obviously never happen, but to think that London wouldn't be able to go 'alone' is naive.
But all of that would have to come via rUK. London is essentially landlocked and has no direct access to the rest of the world without going through rUK.

What's to stop rUK putting import tariffs on anything not sourced from rUK? A 'handling fee' if you will.

stongle

5,910 posts

164 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Moonhawk said:
But all of that would have to come via rUK. London is essentially landlocked and has no direct access to the rest of the world without going through rUK.

What's to stop rUK putting import tariffs on anything not sourced from rUK? A 'handling fee' if you will.
Has it's own Airport (City) and you could float too it down the Thames (NOT saying the Principality of London is a good thing).

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

221 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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stongle said:
Moonhawk said:
But all of that would have to come via rUK. London is essentially landlocked and has no direct access to the rest of the world without going through rUK.

What's to stop rUK putting import tariffs on anything not sourced from rUK? A 'handling fee' if you will.
Has it's own Airport (City) and you could float too it down the Thames (NOT saying the Principality of London is a good thing).
Aircraft have to go through rUK airspace to get to those airports though.

The river Thames also goes through rUK counties (Essex and Kent) before it gets to the sea.

Like I said - London is effectively landlocked. It can get nothing in or out without going via rUK (or passing through rUK).

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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London a City state? Sure I can see that. Like 28 weeks later...

Camoradi

4,301 posts

258 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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At first I thought this was a mildly ridiculous idea and I didn't take it completely seriously. Then I saw that David Lammy had proposed it, and on reflection I am prepared to commit some time to ridiculing it.

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Moonhawk said:
Aircraft have to go through rUK airspace to get to those airports though.

The river Thames also goes through rUK counties (Essex and Kent) before it gets to the sea.

Like I said - London is effectively landlocked. It can get nothing in or out without going via rUK (or passing through rUK).
That is true, for now. But once we turn off the magic money tap for the rest of the country and you revert to an agrarian peasant life, we will still be able to fund the airbridge from continental Europe.

And just think, in a couple of generations so much knowledge will have been lost outside the wall that your grandchildren will stare in wonder and the giant silver birds in the air that don't need to flap their wings.

Look, the view from Essex, c 2021:


jjlynn27

7,935 posts

111 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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MrBrightSi said:
jjlynn27 said:
Never been to London, have you? If you get that chip off your shoulder you'd realise that London is fantastic. Like any other place it has a fair share of its problems, but to call it 'urban hell hole' is downright stupid.
No no, i've been, you've got great museums and what have you and yeah it is a big part of this country, but someone needs to have an opposing view to London being all sunshine and roses, maybe some of us people in England love it for being a green and verdant land, not just one overgrown urban sprawl.
Why are you insisting on binary logic? There are positive and negative sides to both London and 'rural' England. To call either 'hell hole' is just stupid.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

200 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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nothing an air-burst EMP wouldn't fix.

no computers, no net access, no moneytap

but we'd already have cut off all utilities and ground connections and started jamming satellite frequencies.. and mobile towers would all be off and decommissioned.

Camoradi

4,301 posts

258 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Greg66 said:
Look, the view from Essex, c 2021:

Fail. Girl's skirt is way too long for Essex smile

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

257 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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jjlynn27 said:
MrBrightSi said:
jjlynn27 said:
Never been to London, have you? If you get that chip off your shoulder you'd realise that London is fantastic. Like any other place it has a fair share of its problems, but to call it 'urban hell hole' is downright stupid.
No no, i've been, you've got great museums and what have you and yeah it is a big part of this country, but someone needs to have an opposing view to London being all sunshine and roses, maybe some of us people in England love it for being a green and verdant land, not just one overgrown urban sprawl.
Why are you insisting on binary logic? There are positive and negative sides to both London and 'rural' England. To call either 'hell hole' is just stupid.
Ohhhh, no, it's not...

anonymous-user

56 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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SystemParanoia said:
nothing an air-burst EMP wouldn't fix.

no computers, no net access, no moneytap

but we'd already have cut off all utilities and ground connections and started jamming satellite frequencies.. and mobile towers would all be off and decommissioned.
It's good to see rUK adopting a similar attitude towards an independent London that the EU is exhibiting towards an independent UK! You hardcore provincial Brexiteers have more in common with the EC bureaucrats than you think. Sure you don't want to rethink this whole Brexit thing? wink

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

200 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Greg66 said:
SystemParanoia said:
nothing an air-burst EMP wouldn't fix.

no computers, no net access, no moneytap

but we'd already have cut off all utilities and ground connections and started jamming satellite frequencies.. and mobile towers would all be off and decommissioned.
It's good to see rUK adopting a similar attitude towards an independent London that the EU is exhibiting towards an independent UK! You hardcore provincial Brexiteers have more in common with the EC bureaucrats than you think. Sure you don't want to rethink this whole Brexit thing? wink
The braying mob want Londoner blood... cant stop now!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

257 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Right, then, here's the timetable....

(1) London gets independence

(2) England invades London, with a little help from the Welshies and those Men In Skirts up there, if they're still on board, that is

(3) London nationals exiled to Afghanistan (nice and warm, no need to say thanks)

Sounds like a plan to me...smile


JawKnee

1,140 posts

99 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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ITT. Brexiters pissing their pants at the thought that their countrymen no longer want to be associated with them.

Cutting off supplies? Haha dream on. We'll have free, open trade with the biggest trading block in the world like we do now.

paulrockliffe

15,804 posts

229 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Greg66 said:
It's good to see rUK adopting a similar attitude towards an independent London that the EU is exhibiting towards an independent UK! You hardcore provincial Brexiteers have more in common with the EC bureaucrats than you think. Sure you don't want to rethink this whole Brexit thing? wink
I reckon if the UK position within the EU was the same as the London position within the UK we wouldn't have voted to leave. I certainly wouldn't as the balance of power clearly lies outside of London. The same isn't the case for the UK in the EU.