Dyson Launches Electric Car

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anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Jonesy23 said:
Ahh, nationalism.
Would you like to explain what exactly is wrong with showing support for a British company?

I am no flag waving nationalist, but I absolutely support British business, and would rather buy British if it suited my needs, even if it was more expensive.

I buy British if I can.

People seem to relish the opportunity to pour cold water on British companies, British business, British design, British manufacturing and British brands, and all honesty I don't understand it.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

128 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Lord Marylebone said:
Jonesy23 said:
Ahh, nationalism.
Would you like to explain what exactly is wrong with showing support for a British company?

I am no flag waving nationalist, but I absolutely support British business, and would rather buy British if it suited my needs, even if it was more expensive.

I buy British if I can.

People seem to relish the opportunity to pour cold water on British companies, British business, British design, British manufacturing and British brands, and all honesty I don't understand it.
If you want to support British companies, British business, British design, British manufacturing and British brands, then buy a Henry, not a Dyson.

Jonesy23

4,650 posts

138 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Otispunkmeyer said:
Anyway, I still think powertrain parts is their best shot.... just the leave the rest of the car to someone else.
Yes, if he was sensible then rather than throwing a big pile of money and people at the problem he'd give the 'normal' car bit over to someone who knows that bit (I don't know, there must be a design consultancy somewhere in the UK who have a history building innovative cars in a simple lightweight way) and concentrate on the value add bit where he might make a dent. Much lower risk for probably a better end result.

That's what Tesla did after all, their in-house input was really minimal for a lot of it and not just in the original Roadster. Even their wonderful battery tech was mostly taking a standard cell, adding mechanical fusing to the cell to make the packs safe (actually quite clever how it works), then farming all the charge controllers and stuff off to other people.

speedy_thrills

7,762 posts

245 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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As noted previously he must have some advantage to enter this late, pretty much every major automotive manufacturer is likely several years down the experience curve chasing Tesla?

Yipper

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5,964 posts

92 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Some great background reading here.

Everything you need to know about Dyson -- from the past, present and future.

Dyson is a mini Steve Jobs / mini Apple.

www.ft.com/content/2041b5b2-ec75-11e6-ba01-119a449...

The counterview -- making electric cars is VERY expensive and Dyson will simply not have enough cash to fund it.

http://www.cetusnews.com/business/Dyson--sucker&#8...

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

128 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Yipper said:
Dyson is a mini Steve Jobs
That seems like a very good analogy.

Wacky Racer

38,303 posts

249 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Never underestimate James Dyson.

That is all.

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

125 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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having tried and used his vacuum's for about 15 years, I've had my fill of them. they're just not that great.

By chance when one failed, I borrowed my mother German Sebo.

In due course I bought one. It's far superior to a Dyson.

As an EV owner (Nissan) I'd be tempted to stick with major manufacturers who know how to build cars.

swisstoni

17,192 posts

281 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Wacky Racer said:
Never underestimate James Dyson.

That is all.
Ok Mrs Dyson.

Tuna

19,930 posts

286 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Good luck to him, the more different approaches the better.

The only thing that makes me nervous is that he is very strong on patent protection. If this turns into a battle over IP, things could get nasty.

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
If you want to support British companies, British business, British design, British manufacturing and British brands, then buy a Henry, not a Dyson.
I support all British business, not just manufacturing.

Dyson employs thousands of people in the U.K, and has initiated numerous schemes to get thousands more young people into design, engineering and research.

That's more than good enough for me to root for him as a British business.

I have a Dyson and a Henry. I also own, or have recently owned many other British products from an Aston Martin down to a Barbour jacket and a Dualit toaster.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

128 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Lord Marylebone said:
I also own, or have recently owned many other British products from an Aston Martin down to a Barbour jacket and a Dualit toaster.
Thank you for three fine examples of the "And what IS British anyway?" sliding scale...

Aston - part Italian, part Kuwaiti owned.
Barbour - still family owned, but mostly foreign manufactured.
Dualit - still owned by the family of the German-born founder, assembled in the UK from mostly Chinese components.

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
Thank you for three fine examples of the "And what IS British anyway?" sliding scale...

Aston - part Italian, part Kuwaiti owned.
Barbour - still family owned, but mostly foreign manufactured.
Dualit - still owned by the family of the German-born founder, assembled in the UK from mostly Chinese components.
I think we best leave this debate for now, it is obviously going nowhere fast.

You clearly have nothing but contempt for any company that employs people in Britain, in any capacity.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

128 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Lord Marylebone said:
You clearly have nothing but contempt for any company that employs people in Britain, in any capacity.
That's quite some leap of logic.

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

110 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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speedy_thrills said:
As noted previously he must have some advantage to enter this late, pretty much every major automotive manufacturer is likely several years down the experience curve chasing Tesla?
The large electrical manufacturers were experimenting with electric powered cars 50 years ago.

anonymous-user

56 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
Lord Marylebone said:
You clearly have nothing but contempt for any company that employs people in Britain, in any capacity.
That's quite some leap of logic.
That is how you are coming across.

Feel free to prove me wrong.

Zoon

6,727 posts

123 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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lyonspride said:
All things said and done, if hoover manufacturers want to make cars, then i'd rather see Dyson build a car than that muppet show over at Gtech.
What's wrong with Gtech? (genuine question)

beko1987

1,639 posts

136 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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Zoon said:
lyonspride said:
All things said and done, if hoover manufacturers want to make cars, then i'd rather see Dyson build a car than that muppet show over at Gtech.
What's wrong with Gtech? (genuine question)
This mainly

https://manchestervacs.co.uk/DysonForum/index.php/...

Apart from that the general build quality, the price for a glorified bissell carpet sweeper and the lack of warranty honoring when bought from a non approved gtech supplier...

I have a full refurb thread to write up on one, the hair goes everywhere it shouldn't really, all inside the motor and cogs for the brushroll

SantaBarbara

3,244 posts

110 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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hyphen said:
I agree.

James Dyson worked on the design a boat at the age of 23. Carried 3 tons at 50mph. Was used by the military, oil and construction industries and still sold today.

He should have stuck to what he knew and stayed designing boats, how dare he "suddenly hop into building something completely unrelated" to his boat business and have silly dreams of electric motors. He started with diesel boats and should have stuck to that,

rofl
He. Is quite right to want to diversify
Where is his factory, Wiltshire?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

128 months

Wednesday 27th September 2017
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SantaBarbara said:
Where is his factory, Wiltshire?
No, Malaysia.

Engineering and design is Wiltshire.