More money to find missing girl

More money to find missing girl

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TheSnitch

2,342 posts

156 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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CzechItOut said:
is it true that neither of the McCanns or any of the Tapas Seven have been interviewed by the British investigation?
They have certainly never been formally interviewed as suspects, which is not to say that they have not been interviewed as witnesses. This is from the interview last year of Met chief Mark Rowley (Transcript provided by Met police, so 100% reliable)

"Q: The first detective in charge of the case said he was going right back to the start of the case and
accepting nothing. It seems very much he was suggesting that it was going to be a brand new
investigation.

MR: It’s a brand new investigation, you are going in with an open mind. You are not ignoring the
evidence in front of you. That would be a bizarre conclusion. You would look at that material, what
does it prove, what it doesn’t. What hypothesis does it open what does it close down and you work
your way through the case.

Q: Just to be clear you did not interview the McCanns as potential suspects?

MR: No"

Now - I have no idea why. I could suggest that either they did not feel they had enough evidence to do so, or else the McCanns lawyered up like a POTUS suing a porn star.

Either way, I fail to see the logic in pissing more money against the wall or bothering retired couples who used to live in the Algarve if they are not going to question Mr and Mrs Childcare about the events of that night.



TheSnitch

2,342 posts

156 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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Full text of the interview can be found here, if anyone wants to read the whole thing

http://news.met.police.uk/documents/transcript-of-...

dandarez

13,334 posts

285 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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Mark Rowley's first sentence in reply goes...

'We've achieved an awful lot.'

That was enough for me. Really no point in reading the rest, eh?

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

101 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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I had a quick scan - seems to be be lots of assurances of leaving no stone unturned then walking past the quarry (yes, both meanings).

TheSnitch

2,342 posts

156 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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dandarez said:
Mark Rowley's first sentence in reply goes...

'We've achieved an awful lot.'

That was enough for me. Really no point in reading the rest, eh?
I am quite baffled, tbh
It is as if they are describing someone sorting out a huge pile of unpaired socks. Yes, now they are nicely paired up and stored away in a drawer with one of those things that keeps socks in neat rows, but at the end of the day, it's still just a load of socks.

The only genuine advance seems to have been that they were able to rule out the ''man carrying child'' which they could and should have done back in 2007 when they interviewed him.

The rest seems to be a fishing expedition, in which they discover the murderer by ruling out everyone in Portugal, one by one.

Gameface

16,565 posts

79 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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TheSnitch said:
The rest seems to be a fishing expedition
What they after?

Tuna, swordfish, marlin?


FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

95 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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I was thinking more along the lines of an avian theme rather than fish with respect to their interest in spending an inordinate amount of time in a country with good weather.

Y'know, birdies, eagle, albatross, that sort of thing biggrin

ABZ RS6

749 posts

105 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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Gameface said:
What they after?

Tuna, swordfish, marlin?
Golden Bream is always my favorite when in the Algarve. lick

Highly recommend it Officer.......

FourWheelDrift

88,815 posts

286 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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dandarez said:
Mark Rowley's first sentence in reply goes...

'We've achieved an awful lot.'

That was enough for me. Really no point in reading the rest, eh?
That's the typical upper echelon of the public sector's belief that activity is work.

BoRED S2upid

19,829 posts

242 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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£11mill is an incredible amount. £1mill a year how is that broken down? That’s like 10 full time detectives or something crazy £100k per person.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

101 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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BoRED S2upid said:
£11mill is an incredible amount. £1mill a year how is that broken down? That’s like 10 full time detectives or something crazy £100k per person.
125 policemen if Dianne Abbott was running it.

Ructions

4,705 posts

123 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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Is there a just giving page? I really feel like I should make a donation to this worthy cause.

TheSnitch

2,342 posts

156 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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FN2TypeR said:
I was thinking more along the lines of an avian theme rather than fish with respect to their interest in spending an inordinate amount of time in a country with good weather.

Y'know, birdies, eagle, albatross, that sort of thing biggrin
laughlaugh

TheSnitch

2,342 posts

156 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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BoRED S2upid said:
£11mill is an incredible amount. £1mill a year how is that broken down? That’s like 10 full time detectives or something crazy £100k per person.
It's a massive amount. If you compare it to the average murder investigation (because for a missing person case they had a hell of a lot of murder squad detectives working on it) then it is a bonkers amount. To put it in perspective, they have already spent more on this one case than the top ten most expensive murder investigations in Scotland combined, which is a hell of a lot for a crime which took place outside of the UK and where they don't even have power of arrest. At one point they had over 30 detectives working full time on it, which is huge.

JLC25

572 posts

124 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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I'm not into the more "Extreme" theories on all of this, but looking at the facts:

- Parents leave child in house in foreign country to go to dinner

- Child goes missing

- Parents refuse questioning from local authorities

- Play up to the home media to seem like victims - guarantee exemption of suspicion or questioning to you and friends

- Nothing ever gets found, case has never got warm, no evidence, nothing.

Is it worth more money?

I do sympathize with any parent of a missing child, but it just doesn't feel like a case worth throwing buckets of cash into. Why not extend the McCann Charity into something for all missing children, some of who can still be found but lack the media powerhouse Kate and Gerry have managed to whip up? At least it would leave a legacy in her name.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

101 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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JLC25 said:
, case has never got warm,
Problem is the truth, which could probably be found out if they so wished, is red hot but no one wants to ge their fingers burnt.

JLC25

572 posts

124 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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Mothersruin said:
Problem is the truth, which could probably be found out if they so wished, is red hot but no one wants to ge their fingers burnt.
I would be inclined to agree that the British Government may have realised at some point they have made a very expensive mistake, and rather than own up that they've been played a bit, say sorry to the Portuguese government and authorities and face the music from the (already skeptical) public, they think that £X amount every X months is a small price to pay to save face.

But based on the facts we have, It's insane that a case that has had no real evidence apart from "I saw a man carrying a child" and "Someone was looking at that building for longer than normal" has received £11 Million and counting.

WestyCarl

3,312 posts

127 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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So who decides what case continues to get funded and which case doesn't, the Met or the Govt?

TheSnitch

2,342 posts

156 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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JLC25 said:
I'm not into the more "Extreme" theories on all of this, but looking at the facts:

- Parents leave child in house in foreign country to go to dinner

- Child goes missing

- Parents refuse questioning from local authorities

- Play up to the home media to seem like victims - guarantee exemption of suspicion or questioning to you and friends

- Nothing ever gets found, case has never got warm, no evidence, nothing.

Is it worth more money?

I do sympathize with any parent of a missing child, but it just doesn't feel like a case worth throwing buckets of cash into. Why not extend the McCann Charity into something for all missing children, some of who can still be found but lack the media powerhouse Kate and Gerry have managed to whip up? At least it would leave a legacy in her name.
I'm with you on this.
Without wishing to be cruel, there are only two possible scenarios - the girl is alive or she is dead. Personally, I think the latter is by far the most likely, but even if she was alive, she would be nearly 15 and would probably have little or no memory of her family. She is never going to be a part of that family again in any real sense, whatever the circumstances, and it would seem to be more sensible to try to come to terms with that.

The ''charity'' isn't actually a charity at all and would require a complete restructuring to do as you suggest, which is all the more reason to do it. At least it would put an end to their courtroom jaunts, which seems to be the biggest outgoing. It was the weirdest setup in any case - apparently "supporters" wanting to help by distributing posters etc had to PAY for them! That's chutzpah

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

101 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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anonymous said:
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I agree - it doesn't make any sense as to why good money is being thrown after bad.

It also doesn't make sense with my own personal conclusion that the parents are involved (accidental or otherwise) but the local plod ruined the crime scene before decent investigators could get a look and nothing can be used other than circumstantial evidence. The parents realised this and went mental on the media front to solidify their own position. All my own personal view, of course.

So, anything that would be remotely helpfull is long gone and that's why I don't get SY slogging away. Maybe it really was an abduction, but all the indicators point away from this - only the parents know.