Missing Woman Sarah Everard

[okgo]

Taylor James said:

All in your mind mate.

It really isn't, hence there is a wiki page about it.

[anonymous-user]

donkmeister said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

The circumstances around someone going missing are significant in the sort of attention it gets, and how much.

Someone says "I'm running away" and is then seen getting on a train, not much coverage as there are lines of investigation.
Someone figuratively vanishes into thin air, no lines of investigation, the media help by publicising it.

Are attractive white women between 18 and 40 years old more or less likely to vanish into thin air than other demographics? I honestly couldn't say. Do you know?

I posted it without comment because it had been shared with me previously, the very fact someone has given it a name and cited examples across the world suggests its a thing regardless of the circumstances of the dissapearance

[anonymous-user]

PurpleTurtle said:

Phone/BiB techies: two questons

1) if her phone went off abruptly, is it possible to determine all the other phones in close proximity to her at that time?
2) assuming the mobile backs up to the cloud (I think mine does daily) would it theoretically be possible to access the cloud data of a missing person, to determine their recent-ish online activity/things going on in their life?

1) Yes, it’s absolutely possible but very rarely done due to the amount of work involved and limited benefit. Even if you did that you’d need to know the offender a) had a phone and b) used it close to that location depending on the provider.

You’d need a cell survey for each of the 4 operators to ascertain cell coverage. Then further surveys into each technology available, 2G, 3G, 4G, 5G. At that point you’d have a list of cells to request data from each of the providers (bearing in mind multiple cells often cover a location) for a specific time and you’d be returned many thousands of events. Then all you need to do is attribute each handset to a person/offender and hope you’re offender is in there. Hence it’s rarely done

2) again, this is absolutely possible and would be subject to the owner of the data being able to assist and being obliged to assist. In the case of Apple, they’re actually surprisingly good for all life threatening scenarios (they won’t even reply to none life at risk jobs) but as they’re US based you’d need an MLAT which in itself is a large piece of work. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_legal_assis...
For other stuff such Apple will provide loads of data such as phone location etc with just an authority under the IPA

https://www.gchq.gov.uk/information/investigatory-...

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 10th March 14:49

[Taylor James]

okgo said:

Taylor James said:

All in your mind mate.

It really isn't, hence there is a wiki page about it.

Oh that's definitive then. There's a wiki page about alien abduction as well.

[s1962a]

Taylor James said:

okgo said:

Taylor James said:

All in your mind mate.

It really isn't, hence there is a wiki page about it.

Oh that's definitive then. There's a wiki page about alien abduction as well.

A quick google shows lots of missing people in London, one went missing the same day too

https://metro.co.uk/2021/03/08/keiran-campbell-13-...

[anonymous-user]

Taylor James said:

All in your mind mate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyce_Vincent

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 10th March 14:57

[fido]

Derek Smith said:

If he's released w/o charge then he's been eliminated from enquiries, or at the very least, there's insufficient evidence to prosecute

True, but it's still going to be an awkward conversation with the neighbours. Some 'less- enlightened' sheeple will still associate you with the crime - until they actually catch the person. I'm going with the accident/cover-up theory above - given that they live so far apart.

Edited by fido on Wednesday 10th March 15:03

[smallredball]

carinaman said:

sutoka said:

Wonder if the officer is the boyfriend she supposedly spent 15 minutes on the phone with.

Wouldn't be the first Met Officer accused murder/manslaughter and certainly won't be the last. Police officers are just normal people outside of their uniform, they commit acts like normal people and that includes heinous acts.

It doesn't help when other police officers cover up and blame victims when their fellow officers commit crimes.

There's no sign of that here, so your wibble is as stupid as the victim blaming.

[Taylor James]

MrMan001 said:

Taylor James said:

All in your mind mate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyce_Vincent

What possible relevance has that got to do with anything?

[shunt]

Now arrested on suspicion of murder and kidnapping.

[tannhauser]

Joey Deacon said:

poo at Paul's said:

FWIW I dont think Joey's post is attributing any blame to the woman at all. He is making suppositions based on various facts, partly indisputable ones that most murder victims are known to their murderer, but also ones based on his own experiences, which are far more disputable!
But it is naiive to think the cops will not have already been down that road at some point long ago and may well still be on it.

This is a discussion board, i dont think anything he has said isnt anything many other people may be thinking (not me BTW, but i am open to others' opinions), and certainly he does not seem to be saying it is in anyway her fault.

As for the naming of the suspect, it's been out there for some time, just hit the mainstream press now. It's not perfect but in the age of twitter etc, hardly a surprise.

Thank you, as you say I was not attributing blame to this woman at all, I certainly don't think she deserved anything bad happening to her. If the policeman is involved then the first thing the police are going to investigate is if he knew her and if so how.

I was just, as has been noted crudely coming up with a situation as to how they knew each other. As for the personal experience element, put it this way it would not be the first time I had heard of a woman contacting a couple where the man was a policeman through a lifestyle website.

Indeed. All the bloody white knights are out in force today!

All possible avenues have to be considered. As I’m sure they are being.

[bitchstewie]

Awful.

Kidnap murder and indecent exposure.

WTF

[hyphen]

bhstewie said:

Awful.

Kidnap murder and indecent exposure.

WTF

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9346175/S...

[vaud]

"The suspect, in his 40s, is a serving Met Police officer with the diplomatic and parliamentary protection unit, the Met said."

[anonymous-user]

Searching a closed old pitch & putt course in a secluded area outside Ashford seems too specific to be random.

[Gary29]

It always pains me clicking on a DM link, but there they go again quoting house prices and car prices as if they are in any way relevant.

Considering the suspect is a police officer, it hasn't taken them long to arrest him, you'd think someone in the forces would be better at covering their tracks, or maybe he just lost the plot and wasn't thinking with any self preservation in mind?

Very sad story though, tragic for the girl and her family / friends.

[zygalski]

This place is on the up!
No blaming the missing woman on page 1.

[hyphen]

Gary29 said:

Considering the suspect is a police officer, it hasn't taken them long to arrest him, you'd think someone in the forces would be better at covering their tracks, or maybe he just lost the plot and wasn't thinking with any self preservation in mind?

Indeed. Makes you think it wasn't pre-planned but on impulse. Or under the influence of drugs/alcohol.

[Petrus1983]

zygalski said:

This place is on the up!
No blaming the missing woman on page 1.

No - swinger sites weren’t mentioned until the top of page 2 (depending on settings). Sad.

The indecent exposure charge is very specific, I imagine they know a lot more than they’re saying (as should be the case).

[bitchstewie]

The arrest for indecent exposure seems an odd one?

I mean that doesn't just come out of nowhere does it?

Edited by bhstewie on Wednesday 10th March 15:45