Laurence Fox home raided this am (Blade runner comments?)

[anonymous-user]

In this thread I see a lot of parallels between Fox followers and Trump followers.

They both show the same slavering loyalty to someone and that someone’s methods just because that someone opposes someone else or something they don’t like. Brain out unthinking tribalism.

[Ivan stewart]

BlackWidow13 said:

In this thread I see a lot of parallels between Fox followers and Trump followers.

They both show the same slavering loyalty to someone and that someone’s methods just because that someone opposes someone else or something they don’t like. Brain out unthinking tribalism.

Doesn’t that apply to a lot of support for political people ?? The it’s our team mentality.

[anonymous-user]

Ivan stewart said:

BlackWidow13 said:

In this thread I see a lot of parallels between Fox followers and Trump followers.

They both show the same slavering loyalty to someone and that someone’s methods just because that someone opposes someone else or something they don’t like. Brain out unthinking tribalism.

Doesn’t that apply to a lot of support for political people ?? The it’s our team mentality.

No.

[Gecko1978]

ZedLeg said:

None of that damage is permanent.

The felt at the snooker had to be replaced ergo the felt was permanently damaged.

[ZedLeg]

Gecko1978 said:

ZedLeg said:

None of that damage is permanent.

The felt at the snooker had to be replaced ergo the felt was permanently damaged.

Ok, so we have one tenuous example for JSO. How many cameras have been destroyed?

[Trax]

Electro1980 said:

You need to look up the conspiracy to commit laws. Anyone explicitly funding the commit of vandalism or any crime could be charged. The difference between them and Fox is he was explicitly saying “I will pay for you to commit a crime”. The two are very different.

But he hasn't paid anyone to commit a crime. He's said some facetious comment about putting money behind a bar/shop, which isn't the same as actually putting money behind a bar/hardware shop.

So, is what he ha said, as opposed to actually doing it a crime? And if it is a crime, is it a very serious one that leads to a large operation against him like it did?

[Gweeds]

Tump and Fox supporters - routinely defending some of the worst people alive.

Do they hold mirrors up to you?

[Hill92]

Trax said:

Electro1980 said:

You need to look up the conspiracy to commit laws. Anyone explicitly funding the commit of vandalism or any crime could be charged. The difference between them and Fox is he was explicitly saying “I will pay for you to commit a crime”. The two are very different.

But he hasn't paid anyone to commit a crime. He's said some facetious comment about putting money behind a bar/shop, which isn't the same as actually putting money behind a bar/hardware shop.

So, is what he ha said, as opposed to actually doing it a crime? And if it is a crime, is it a very serious one that leads to a large operation against him like it did?

What if he has actually provided the funds?

[Ivan stewart]

BlackWidow13 said:

No.

Really !!!

[Killboy]

At least people are starting to come around to the fact that the ULEZ protests (which they support) are somewhat like the JSO protests (which they wish the police would crack down on).

[rscott]

Trax said:

Electro1980 said:

You need to look up the conspiracy to commit laws. Anyone explicitly funding the commit of vandalism or any crime could be charged. The difference between them and Fox is he was explicitly saying “I will pay for you to commit a crime”. The two are very different.

But he hasn't paid anyone to commit a crime. He's said some facetious comment about putting money behind a bar/shop, which isn't the same as actually putting money behind a bar/hardware shop.

So, is what he ha said, as opposed to actually doing it a crime? And if it is a crime, is it a very serious one that leads to a large operation against him like it did?

He also stated that he would be going out with them and damaging the cameras.

If JSO said they were going to slash all the tyres on 4x4s at a dealership, I'd expect the police to get involved before it happened, so why not in this case?

[Mr Whippy]

neilr said:

He seems strangely unaware that inciting people to commit crime can lead to having your own collar felt.

I dislike Fox ( IMHO think he needs some help actually) but in a time where police resources are apparently so stretched they cant/won't attend many crimes, sending any, let alone at least 3 officers to his gaff about this is a ridiculous waste of police recourses. Not to mention insulting to the public.

Boys in blue without a clue.

They’re falling over themselves to prove how out of touch they are.

Most people will struggle to get any police attention for all manner of crimes.

But talk about camera smashing on YT and you get an armed response?

Surely a pair of plod coming for a chat is sufficient, while the armed guys go after the SOC lot sorting drugs, prostitution, trafficking, car stealing etc?


Are plod now just to keep the plebs in line?

Or are they there to protect the plebs from criminals?

[Killboy]

I love this nonsense. People celebrate how many cameras are being smashed, and here is someone publicly inciting a whole lot of it and probably has a fair bit of info from doing it, handing himself to the police on a platter and people are saying the police are wasting resources. Lol

[PurpleTurtle]

Killboy said:

I love this nonsense. People celebrate how many cameras are being smashed, and here is someone publicly inciting a whole lot of it and probably has a fair bit of info from doing it, handing himself to the police on a platter and people are saying the police are wasting resources. Lol

Exactly this.

Fox has 425,000 Twitter followers. He's has publicly invited them to put them in touch with someone who will apparently give them a free angle grinder to go out and commit ULEZ camera vandalism.

What is the mother of all fkery are the Met supposed to do about this clown? Of course he's going to get his collar felt. He's handed himself to them on a plate.

I doubt very much will come of it but given that he's used an electronic device to publish that message then I very much suspect that his phone and laptop will have paid a short visit to a local London police station where an image of his hard drive will have been taken and all of this contacts in regard to ULEZ vandalism will have been given up. Even if they are acting anonymously/behind VPNs etc it will give the Met more than they previously had in terms of intelligence as to who is organising and committing ULEZ vandalism. He's an absolute plank. All his talk about 'the deep state' and there he goes gobbing off on Twitter and giving them carte blanche to snapshot his online history.

For the record I completely oppose ULEZ but there are ways and means of dealing with that in a democracy. If Londoners were that set against it they could elect someone as Mayor who would promise to remove it. Lozza Fox had a go at that and got 1.9% of the vote.

[Killboy]

I've said in the Blade Runners thread that this is a stupid way to end up with a criminal record, and I I was interested to see how the first big case of this would play out - but man was I unprepared for just how stupid the whole thing would be.

[PurpleTurtle]

Trax said:

Electro1980 said:

You need to look up the conspiracy to commit laws. Anyone explicitly funding the commit of vandalism or any crime could be charged. The difference between them and Fox is he was explicitly saying “I will pay for you to commit a crime”. The two are very different.

But he hasn't paid anyone to commit a crime. He's said some facetious comment about putting money behind a bar/shop, which isn't the same as actually putting money behind a bar/hardware shop.

So, is what he ha said, as opposed to actually doing it a crime? And if it is a crime, is it a very serious one that leads to a large operation against him like it did?

As Electro1980 says he was arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit criminal damage.

The salient point of his tweet being that if anyone was interested he could put them in touch with someone who would give them a free angle grinder to commit ULEZ vandalism. IANAL but that sounds very much like being part of a conspiracy to me.

He's living in a dreamworld if he didn't think that would provoke a response from the Met.

[Killboy]

Does anyone know which hardware store this 10k is at? I could use a new angle grinder

[Earthdweller]

XCP said:

rustyuk said:

They didn't looked armed to me.

Nor me.

No no no, they all had two arms each

[andyA700]

Killboy said:

I love this nonsense. People celebrate how many cameras are being smashed, and here is someone publicly inciting a whole lot of it and probably has a fair bit of info from doing it, handing himself to the police on a platter and people are saying the police are wasting resources. Lol

Did Fox's stupid actions warrent the use of five armed police?

[ZedLeg]

Probably need to decide on whether they were armed or not.