Could UK U-turn on Referendum Result
Discussion
Tuna said:
Perhaps May should respect the judgement by offering the following vote to parliament:
"We shall vote yes to enact article 50 as required by the referendum, or no to ignore the will of our constituents and the electorate as a whole."
That neatly sums up why nothing has really changed. Our negotiating position with the EU has been temporarily weakened."We shall vote yes to enact article 50 as required by the referendum, or no to ignore the will of our constituents and the electorate as a whole."
We have already seen how politicians react when they think that their jjobs are threatened. A Baroness in the HoL briefly suggested that the upper house would block the invocation of Article 50. It only took a few minutes for her fellow peers to explain that would be the end of all of them.
blindswelledrat said:
Norfolkit said:
CaptainSlow said:
The day Parliament block Article 50 is the day democracy truely dies in the UK.
Agree with that 100%,More importantly I suspect so does Theresa May and she's made of much sterner stuff than "quitter" Cameron.
Also, was the 1975 referendum rerun as more "facts" came out.
blindswelledrat said:
Norfolkit said:
CaptainSlow said:
The day Parliament block Article 50 is the day democracy truely dies in the UK.
Agree with that 100%,More importantly I suspect so does Theresa May and she's made of much sterner stuff than "quitter" Cameron.
andymadmak said:
JawKnee said:
So you want to keep rerunning it until you get the answer you want? You lost, get over it.
Thats a little bit rich coming from someone who does not accept the outcome of the Referendum...
I think that Art 50 will still be triggered, it's just that the MPs will now have to vote for it rather than simply act on the outcome of the Referendum that they (the MPs) voted 10:1 to grant to the people.
Failure to follow the will of the majority, no matter how fancy pants the justification, will be enormously damaging to parliament and society in the UK.
My area voted heavily for remain but the MP was for leave. That MP will be in a very tough position when it comes to voting in Parliament.
El stovey said:
Oceanic said:
Could we just agree some reverse terminology so the debate can go on with some form of balance, I assume Brexiters will now be referred to as Brexmoaners? Yes?
Bed wetting bremoaners. Will we now have a short period free of all the wailing that we have to put up with since Glorious Victory Friday?
JawKnee said:
There isn't the appetite there was 6 months ago after seeing the bad things which have happened as a result of the vote.
Classic. Can you please detail what bad things have happened? (Apple iPads going up isn't a bad thing)The "experts" stated we'd be in recession by now.
don4l said:
Are you guys under the impression that we are now going to Remain.
Will we now have a short period free of all the wailing that we have to put up with since Glorious Victory Friday?
//ajd is gonna be spaffing himself sillyWill we now have a short period free of all the wailing that we have to put up with since Glorious Victory Friday?
I'm going to enjoy the break from it all
Nothing has changed - not a bloody thing
Oh OK something did change - the government got told it couldn't do something that it had put off till March
blindswelledrat said:
Out of interest, would you still think the same if there was a new referendum based on the things we now know to be 'fact' and it people voted to remain?
Hand on heart I think the majority to leave now would be larger. Granted, it's just a gut feel based on what I am hearing from people around me on both sides of the debate. Amongst those I know well enough to ask, there are very few people who HAVE changed their minds since June, but those that have have all moved from Remain to Exit. A re-run would see a 60 - 40 in favour of leave vote in my opinion.
I would add this though - If there was a fair re-run, and if my side (exit) lost that vote, I would respect the outcome. Such a shame that the same cannot be said for so many Remainers on here.
cirian75 said:
May wont hold an general election
Labour are a joke meaning the LD's can clean up by making them selves the single issue party, they will blow the whole farm on this.
Areas that were very close to the 50/50 on the EU referendum that were LD in 2010 election before the 2015 general election would probably go back to them.
pretty sure UKIP would gain some more MP's
It could be 2010 all over again, but who would be the King makers, LD or UKIP?
I do like the idea of Nigel sitting at the Cabinet table. Most of the rest of the Cabinet don't smile enough.Labour are a joke meaning the LD's can clean up by making them selves the single issue party, they will blow the whole farm on this.
Areas that were very close to the 50/50 on the EU referendum that were LD in 2010 election before the 2015 general election would probably go back to them.
pretty sure UKIP would gain some more MP's
It could be 2010 all over again, but who would be the King makers, LD or UKIP?
JawKnee said:
I know many people who voted leave but have since changed their mind. There isn't the appetite there was 6 months ago after seeing the bad things which have happened as a result of the vote.
My own experiences in this regard are quite the opposite of yours. It remains to be seen if there will be another vote (I doubt it) and if there is then which of us is right. All else would be speculation. Oh, and can you please list all these "bad things" that have changed minds in your circle of friends? (Assuming you did actually allow yourself to have friends that had the temerity to vote exit against your instructions!
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desolate said:
JNW1 said:
The Remainers think that because the courts have confirmed the decision on whether or not to invoke Article 50 rests with Parliament the result of the referendum can in effect be overturned.
I think leavers think the same as well.Still need to hear from The Supreme Court yet - I wonder if the bedwetters will accept the verdict of those unelected chinless wonders?
Pound on the up - may be able to afford some apres when we skiing after all.
blindswelledrat said:
Norfolkit said:
CaptainSlow said:
The day Parliament block Article 50 is the day democracy truely dies in the UK.
Agree with that 100%,More importantly I suspect so does Theresa May and she's made of much sterner stuff than "quitter" Cameron.
It would seem a legal challenge to the high courts ruling could be made on the grounds that one of the presiding judges has links to the EU legal harmonization scheme, and therefore cannot be regarded as being impartial, but a person with a vested interest. and therefore not fit to make a judgement on whether parliament must be given a vote on the triggering of article 50
Pan Pan Pan said:
It would seem a legal challenge to the high courts ruling could be made on the grounds that one of the presiding judges has links to the EU legal harmonization scheme, and therefore cannot be regarded as being impartial, but a person with a vested interest. and therefore not fit to make a judgement on whether parliament must be given a vote on the triggering of article 50
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