Jeremy Corbyn Vol. 2
Discussion
Ridgemont said:
alfabadass said:
Tell that to the Jewish community who are making life unbareable for other minorities because they cant handle criticism of Israel...a country a billion miles away.
Oh go on then. I’ll bite. Evidence?The holocaust isn’t a get out of jail free card. It also isn’t however, by any stretch of the imagination, something that can be used for whataboutery. If you have a beef with Israel criticise it on its own terms. Otherwise you sound like Basil Fawlty.
Quite liked the Corbyn / Robinson comparison) - shame the article isn't open for comments - that would have been entertaining) :
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug...
alfabadass said:
If only all organisations put as much effort into fighting Racism as Labour have in dealing with a niche problem like Anti-Semetism.
I guess Anti-Semetism is suffered by white folk while racism is for darkies.
Sad.
Except that of course Jews from Ethiopia Yemen and various other places around the globe .... have dark skin. I guess Anti-Semetism is suffered by white folk while racism is for darkies.
Sad.
alfabadass said:
Tell that to the Jewish community who are making life unbareable for other minorities because they cant handle criticism of Israel...a country a billion miles away.
Oh dear. Was the mural criticism of Israel? Was inviting to Parliament someone who said Jews make their bread with baby’s blood criticism of Israel? Was saying Jews suck babies cocks criticism of Israel? Was calling Hamas friends (their charter calls for genocide of every last Jew) criticism of Israel?The answer in each case is no.
As to your claim that they are making life unbearable, for whom? Have you any examples?
alfabadass said:
Tell that to the Jewish community who are making life unbareable for other minorities because they cant handle criticism of Israel...a country a billion miles away.
I rest my case! Like the far right , you are trying to justify your foul racism. Why you are not banned on these forums is beyond me.Reading the posts from the likes of you, it is easy to see why under far left or far right regimes, there are so many deaths/executions of citizens, you're just full of hate!
alfabadass said:
Tell that to the Jewish community who are making life unbareable for other minorities because they cant handle criticism of Israel...a country a billion miles away.
- Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.- Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
- Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
- Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
Yuuup, that was pretty racist. Either a troll or an anti-Semite.
Is Jeremy an anti-Semite? No
Is Jeremy correct in pointing out crimes carried out by the Israelis? Yes
Does drawing a parallel to some of the similarities to what occurred in WW2 make sense? Yes
Does trying to have a discussion or view that is opposing to that of supporting Israel's position make you an anti-Semite? According to some agreed standards it does
Does this make Jeremy an anti-Semite? In the eyes of the politically blind or motivated, yes.
But is he one? No.
Is Jeremy correct in pointing out crimes carried out by the Israelis? Yes
Does drawing a parallel to some of the similarities to what occurred in WW2 make sense? Yes
Does trying to have a discussion or view that is opposing to that of supporting Israel's position make you an anti-Semite? According to some agreed standards it does
Does this make Jeremy an anti-Semite? In the eyes of the politically blind or motivated, yes.
But is he one? No.
George Smiley said:
Is Jeremy an anti-Semite? No
Is Jeremy correct in pointing out crimes carried out by the Israelis? Yes
Does drawing a parallel to some of the similarities to what occurred in WW2 make sense? Yes
Does trying to have a discussion or view that is opposing to that of supporting Israel's position make you an anti-Semite? According to some agreed standards it does
Does this make Jeremy an anti-Semite? In the eyes of the politically blind or motivated, yes.
But is he one? No.
I think George Smiley would have been slightly more balanced in his opinions, unless of course he knew the subject personally which of course he didn't. Is Jeremy correct in pointing out crimes carried out by the Israelis? Yes
Does drawing a parallel to some of the similarities to what occurred in WW2 make sense? Yes
Does trying to have a discussion or view that is opposing to that of supporting Israel's position make you an anti-Semite? According to some agreed standards it does
Does this make Jeremy an anti-Semite? In the eyes of the politically blind or motivated, yes.
But is he one? No.
RichB said:
George Smiley said:
Is Jeremy an anti-Semite? No
Is Jeremy correct in pointing out crimes carried out by the Israelis? Yes
Does drawing a parallel to some of the similarities to what occurred in WW2 make sense? Yes
Does trying to have a discussion or view that is opposing to that of supporting Israel's position make you an anti-Semite? According to some agreed standards it does
Does this make Jeremy an anti-Semite? In the eyes of the politically blind or motivated, yes.
But is he one? No.
I think George Smiley would have been slightly more balanced in his opinions, unless of course he knew the subject personally which of course he didn't. Is Jeremy correct in pointing out crimes carried out by the Israelis? Yes
Does drawing a parallel to some of the similarities to what occurred in WW2 make sense? Yes
Does trying to have a discussion or view that is opposing to that of supporting Israel's position make you an anti-Semite? According to some agreed standards it does
Does this make Jeremy an anti-Semite? In the eyes of the politically blind or motivated, yes.
But is he one? No.
RichB said:
George Smiley said:
Is Jeremy an anti-Semite? No
Is Jeremy correct in pointing out crimes carried out by the Israelis? Yes
Does drawing a parallel to some of the similarities to what occurred in WW2 make sense? Yes
Does trying to have a discussion or view that is opposing to that of supporting Israel's position make you an anti-Semite? According to some agreed standards it does
Does this make Jeremy an anti-Semite? In the eyes of the politically blind or motivated, yes.
But is he one? No.
I think George Smiley would have been slightly more balanced in his opinions, unless of course he knew the subject personally which of course he didn't. Is Jeremy correct in pointing out crimes carried out by the Israelis? Yes
Does drawing a parallel to some of the similarities to what occurred in WW2 make sense? Yes
Does trying to have a discussion or view that is opposing to that of supporting Israel's position make you an anti-Semite? According to some agreed standards it does
Does this make Jeremy an anti-Semite? In the eyes of the politically blind or motivated, yes.
But is he one? No.
irocfan said:
as soon as someone starts on about 'Jeremy' I just switch off because I know, just know, that there's going to be some pretentious waffle or deflecting going on and I'm glad to see that this early warning (cordar if you will) is running true to form
It makes me cringe......JEREMEEE..... JEREMEEEE......JEREMEEEEEE.As if he's a personal mate.....PLONKERS.
Thing is.....all his years as a backbencher he enjoyed his role as an agent of the extreme left and as so his public profile was under the radar.
He never ever expected to become leader of the Labour Party so he could spout his devisive vitriol and it hardly ever got reported.
Corbyn says he's not anti-semitic but he's stirred up a lot of anti-semitism by his actions.
Is he an anti-semite? If not he's not that intelligent if he didn't realise his actions would be welcomed by Nazis and terrorist sympathisers alike so either way the man is not fit for office.
Is he an anti-semite? If not he's not that intelligent if he didn't realise his actions would be welcomed by Nazis and terrorist sympathisers alike so either way the man is not fit for office.
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