Prince Andrew US civil sexual assault case

[Pinoyuk]

Worried about PH giving out “REAL” IP addresses !!


Its 2019 .Most of us can be anywhere in the world ISP wise . And second , we don’t care !

[Randy Winkman]

JagLover said:

Randy Winkman said:

Perhaps he isn't guilty of any crime. I do find it very distasteful for anyone to suggest that the only legal issue here is that of the age of consent.

Rather relevant though if some are accusing him of being a paedophile, for allegedly sleeping with a girl one year older than the British age of consent.

I don't think people on the internet should be accusing him of being a paedophile. But someone on this thread basically said "she was above the age of consent so what's the problem?". I'm just saying that the age of consent isn't what the media story is about.

[anonymous-user]

Welshbeef said:

Fair enough - can you clarify what the position is on stating an individual did xyz or is a pedophile? (I wonder as Elon Musk has a lawsuit against him from the cave diver who saved those kids)

See examples on Facebook, Twitter, the internet. I’m sure Balmoral will be right on this thread after clearing the balance of the negative comments

[anonymous-user]

Welshbeef said:

This thread is raising some interesting and highly challenging situations - I’m struggling to see how PH mods can risk keeping this going vs the risk of litigation.

Individuals too some are posting some very bold things - you must be aware PH would have to supply any investigators your real IP address.

Defamation of character isn’t to be taken lightly.

Free advice: This thread poses zero libel risk to PH or to posters.

[Stay in Bed Instead]

He was 41 at the time of the alleged incident.

Why do you think it was perverted?

Edited by chris.mod on Monday 18th November 15:29

[Stay in Bed Instead]

He was 41 at the time of the alleged incident.

Why do you think it was perverted?

Edited by chris.mod on Monday 18th November 15:31

[anonymous-user]

tim0409 said:

Welshbeef said:

Defamation of character isn’t to be taken lightly.

Fair comment

People who say “defamation of character” tend in my experience to know nothing about the law of defamation .

The defence of fair comment has, btw, been dead and buried for several years. It has been replaced by a defence called honest opinion. Both the old defence and the new defence tend to be misunderstood by internet lawyers.

The key point here is that the Windsor bloke has no reputation to lose, and could not prove serious harm, now a requisite for a valid claim.

[JuniorD]

Breadvan72 said:

Welshbeef said:

This thread is raising some interesting and highly challenging situations - I’m struggling to see how PH mods can risk keeping this going vs the risk of litigation.

Individuals too some are posting some very bold things - you must be aware PH would have to supply any investigators your real IP address.

Defamation of character isn’t to be taken lightly.

Free advice: This thread poses zero libel risk to PH or to posters.

Setting aside his lack of reputation, is that not also because what’s said on bulletin boards is not libel but slander?

[Stay in Bed Instead]

yonex said:

Are you being obtuse. If a 41 fks a 17 year old, who has been trafficked, and they happen to be in the State of say Virginia?

How old are you? Would go after a 17 year old at that age?

I guess age is not just a number to you. What is an acceptable age difference in your opinion?

[anonymous-user]

It's painful to watch.

'I used to sweat....then had a medical condition around that time...now I have learned to sweat again'

Oh, deary me...

[anonymous-user]

You can say x if x is provably true. There are other defences but I am off out to watch some horses running about so have no time to list the defences. Musk plainly defamed the cave diver but query if any damages because the comment just made Musk look like a tit and no one thought ill of the diver. California may apply different damages rules to E and W. Musk has no readily apparent First Amendment defence.

Andrew W is accused of shagging a trafficked or coerced woman and of consorting with a child rapist whom Prince Former Spare should at least have suspected of being dodgy. The chance of his Grace successful suing PH or anyone here is nil. I can explain more later after I have lost my last ten bucks on some spavined nag.

[Pinoyuk]

Breadvan72 said:

You can say x if x is provably true. There are other defences but I am off out to watch some horses running about so have no time to list the defences. Musk plainly defamed the cave diver but query if any damages because the comment just made Musk look like a tit and no one thought ill of the diver. California may apply different damages rules to E and W. Musk has no readily apparent First Amendment defence.

Andrew W is accused of shagging a trafficked or coerced woman and of consorting with a child rapist whom Prince Former Spare should at least have suspected of being dodgy. The chance of his Grace successful suing PH or anyone here is nil. I can explain more later after I have lost my last ten bucks on some spavined nag.

This .

[anonymous-user]

768c said:

It's painful to watch.

'I used to sweat....then had a medical condition around that time...now I have learned to sweat again'

Oh, deary me...

Recognising the room he hadn’t been in was good too.

[anonymous-user]

JuniorD said:

Setting aside his lack of reputation, is that not also because what’s said on bulletin boards is not libel but slander?

No. You are incorrect on that. If we post defamatory stuff here we are libeling. Slander is defamatory speech. In any event slander and libel are both actionable torts. Tort is a fancy Norman French word for a civil wrong. Scots lawyers are more Roman so they say delict.

[g4ry13]

Stay in Bed Instead said:

I guess age is not just a number to you. What is an acceptable age difference in your opinion?

Isn't age of consent in US 18?

Edited by chris.mod on Monday 18th November 15:41

[Stay in Bed Instead]

Breadvan72 said:

You can say x if x is provably true. There are other defences but I am off out to watch some horses running about so have no time to list the defences. Musk plainly defamed the cave diver but query if any damages because the comment just made Musk look like a tit and no one thought ill of the diver. California may apply different damages rules to E and W. Musk has no readily apparent First Amendment defence.

Andrew W is accused of shagging a trafficked or coerced woman and of consorting with a child rapist whom Prince Former Spare should at least have suspected of being dodgy. The chance of his Grace successful suing PH or anyone here is nil. I can explain more later after I have lost my last ten bucks on some spavined nag.

So why is yonex stating he is a paedophile?

[anonymous-user]

Mind reading is not in my skill set. But read what is said in context.

[vonuber]

Stay in Bed Instead said:

I guess age is not just a number to you. What is an acceptable age difference in your opinion?

Are you being deliberately stupid? She alleges she was sex trafficked, That's the issue.

amongst other things.

The guy you are defending here was bezzy mates with what looks like a guy who, along with Andy's other best mate Maxwell, ran an underage sex trafficking ring for the rich.

But noooooooo, Thats not the important bit to you Is it.

[DeepEnd]

768c said:

It's painful to watch.

'I used to sweat....then had a medical condition around that time...now I have learned to sweat again'

Oh, deary me...

Anyone know if this "adrenaline spike driven sweat reduction" was a common or confirmed condition for Falklands veterans, or elsewhere?

[Stay in Bed Instead]

vonuber said:

Are you being deliberately stupid? She alleges she was sex trafficked, That's the issue.

amongst other things.

The guy you are defending here was bezzy mates with what looks like a guy who, along with Andy's other best mate Maxwell, ran an underage sex trafficking ring for the rich.

But noooooooo, Thats not the important bit to you Is it.

And that makes him automatically guilty does it?

The age is relative to yonex. He claims Andrew is a paedophile.