BBC Womens pay gap
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BBC Breakfast TV team is celebrating 70 years of the NHS today, anyone watching it? Presented entirely by women it seems, and it is f
king car crash stuff.
Condescending "interviews", the Geordie woman talking over all her interviewees, trying to be all Paxman with her challenging people and just being fking awful. It seems it is all "live from a hospital in Leeds". Seriously, what a waste of our licence fee this utter drivel is.
king car crash stuff. Condescending "interviews", the Geordie woman talking over all her interviewees, trying to be all Paxman with her challenging people and just being f
king awful. It seems it is all "live from a hospital in Leeds". Seriously, what a waste of our licence fee this utter drivel is. Randy Winkman said:
xjay1337 said:
Randy Winkman said:
Which is why, generally speaking, women tend to do the more significant things like looking after the home and bringing up the children. Hence they decide what the money is spent on.
Very dangerous ground there....! As many of us will tell you. :0
Well, it's why men used to come home from the pit on Friday and give their wages straight to their wives isn't it? 
Her struggle for those extra tens of thousands of taxpayer's money was "worse than breast cancer"
https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/former-bbc-china-ed...
https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/former-bbc-china-ed...
Cotty said:
How come no one is moaning about the lack of women road layers and being under represented in the more dangerous/dirty jobs
Well quite. If it's important to get a female perspective in architecture, science, politics - why is it not equally important in road laying, mining and sewer cleaning?lyonspride said:
I've lost count of how many women I know, who popped out a sprog, spent 9 months on leave and then decided it was great being at home whilst someone else went to work, then got bored and went back to work part time.......
Does this get counted in the so called "pay gap" figures?
It should count somewhere though.Does this get counted in the so called "pay gap" figures?
The idea that all employment should be 50:50 male female is wrong. The bbc have reached this.
There will be those on both sides that don’t want to work or can’t work, but when you look at stay at home parents the vast majority are women.
To strive for 50:50 is unfair to men as it is not representative of the percentages that want to work. A 60:40 split is probably more realistic.
The split gets worse in some ethnic groups.
Moonhawk said:
Across the board maybe - but I don't see how that can possibly be achieved in individual vocations, unless you are prepared to force people to do jobs they don't want to do (or deny people jobs just to balance the figures).
Agreed but;https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-361202...
They want over representation of both women and bame.
del mar said:
Agreed but;
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-361202...
They want over representation of both women and bame.
Surely to achieve that - they would have to employ discriminatory hiring practices..........which are supposed to be illegal https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-361202...
They want over representation of both women and bame.
Just been reading the “gender pay gap” webpage from the new company I have just started working for.
The company as a whole has a gender pay gap of around 20% overall in favour of men.
What is interesting however is that furthe down the page they break pay down into quartiles - and although the pay gap in favour of men holds in the top quartile, in all other pay quartiles, the gender pay gap is actually in favour of women (i.e. low earning women earn more than low earning men, mid level earning women earn more than mid level earning men etc).
In essence the whole ‘men get paid more’ gender pay gap argument is completely untrue for 75% or more of the company employees.
I wonder for how many companies this kind of nuance is hidden by the overall pay gap which can be skewed by relatively few high earners?
The company as a whole has a gender pay gap of around 20% overall in favour of men.
What is interesting however is that furthe down the page they break pay down into quartiles - and although the pay gap in favour of men holds in the top quartile, in all other pay quartiles, the gender pay gap is actually in favour of women (i.e. low earning women earn more than low earning men, mid level earning women earn more than mid level earning men etc).
In essence the whole ‘men get paid more’ gender pay gap argument is completely untrue for 75% or more of the company employees.
I wonder for how many companies this kind of nuance is hidden by the overall pay gap which can be skewed by relatively few high earners?
Edited by Moonhawk on Wednesday 3rd October 15:32
Moonhawk said:
Surely to achieve that - they would have to employ discriminatory hiring practices..........which are supposed to be illegal
Ah, don't take another step ... you appear to have wandered into the minefield of proportionate means to achieve a legitimate aim.Edited by Europa1 on Wednesday 3rd October 18:40
Moonhawk said:
Just been reading the “gender pay gap” webpage from the new company I have just started working for.
The company as a whole has a gender pay gap of around 20% overall in favour of men.
What is interesting however is that furthe down the page they break pay down into quartiles - and although the pay gap in favour of men holds in the top quartile, in all other pay quartiles, the gender pay gap is actually in favour of women (i.e. low earning women earn more than low earning men, mid level earning women earn more than mid level earning men etc).
In essence the whole ‘men get paid more’ gender pay gap argument is completely untrue for 75% or more of the company employees.
I wonder for how many companies this kind of nuance is hidden by the overall pay gap which can be skewed by relatively few high earners?
Most companies do break it down further, ours showed no gap when adjusting for level of job. Also very similar numbers of both men and women at senior/middle management type of roles. The company as a whole has a gender pay gap of around 20% overall in favour of men.
What is interesting however is that furthe down the page they break pay down into quartiles - and although the pay gap in favour of men holds in the top quartile, in all other pay quartiles, the gender pay gap is actually in favour of women (i.e. low earning women earn more than low earning men, mid level earning women earn more than mid level earning men etc).
In essence the whole ‘men get paid more’ gender pay gap argument is completely untrue for 75% or more of the company employees.
I wonder for how many companies this kind of nuance is hidden by the overall pay gap which can be skewed by relatively few high earners?
Men over-represented at the most senior levels which creates the overall "pay gap". The ages of those involved means that this is the result of career decisions made 20-40 years ago.
Moonhawk said:
Just been reading the “gender pay gap” webpage from the new company I have just started working for.
The company as a whole has a gender pay gap of around 20% overall in favour of men.
What is interesting however is that furthe down the page they break pay down into quartiles - and although the pay gap in favour of men holds in the top quartile, in all other pay quartiles, the gender pay gap is actually in favour of women (i.e. low earning women earn more than low earning men, mid level earning women earn more than mid level earning men etc).
In essence the whole ‘men get paid more’ gender pay gap argument is completely untrue for 75% or more of the company employees.
I wonder for how many companies this kind of nuance is hidden by the overall pay gap which can be skewed by relatively few high earners?
There are other factors as well.The company as a whole has a gender pay gap of around 20% overall in favour of men.
What is interesting however is that furthe down the page they break pay down into quartiles - and although the pay gap in favour of men holds in the top quartile, in all other pay quartiles, the gender pay gap is actually in favour of women (i.e. low earning women earn more than low earning men, mid level earning women earn more than mid level earning men etc).
In essence the whole ‘men get paid more’ gender pay gap argument is completely untrue for 75% or more of the company employees.
I wonder for how many companies this kind of nuance is hidden by the overall pay gap which can be skewed by relatively few high earners?
Edited by Moonhawk on Wednesday 3rd October 15:32
The NHS has a gender pay gap. Doctors are pretty much 50:50 male and female, but nurses are predominantly female.
Overall that makes male wages appear higher even if you pay every doctor the same, and every nurse the same. To fix this you either need to pay nurses the same as doctors, or employ more men in nursing positions.
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