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wisbech said:
tonyvid said:
wisbech said:
Saudi Arabia has announced Covid vaccination will be required for Hajj...
So, no jab no pilgrimage
That's very interesting, from a point of view of a culture that has what happens to the followers being dependent on the will of another(really not trying to stir a hornet's nest here ). But bringing together 1m people from across the World into one place is a pretty big test.So, no jab no pilgrimage
•• Trust in Allah But Tie Your Camel ••
One day Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) noticed a Bedouin leaving his camel without tying it.
He asked the Bedouin, “Why don’t you tie down your camel?”
The Bedouin answered, “I placed my trust in Allah.”
At that, the Prophet (PBUH) said, “Tie your camel and place your trust in Allah” (Tirmidhi)
The lesson from this hadith is that we need to use all resources available to us to solve our problems, and then trust Allah for the outcome as “Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves.” (Qur'an 13.11)
W11PEL said:
I don't need to watch YT. Any channel that pushes against the MSM narrative gets shut down!! That is the sort of thing that irks me. Why this massive pysop to take the vaccine. It's everywhere from posters to radio ads.
Anyway I'll leave it there. I'll observe from afar in my bubble!
Anyway I'll leave it there. I'll observe from afar in my bubble!
otolith said:
One man's "pushing against the MSM narrative" is another's "peddling dangerous lies"
Which is why free societies generally let people say their piece and let the public decide for themselves. If spreading lies is dangerous, having a few politicians deciding what the truth is and suppressing anything else is truly lethal.JuanCarlosFandango said:
otolith said:
One man's "pushing against the MSM narrative" is another's "peddling dangerous lies"
Which is why free societies generally let people say their piece and let the public decide for themselves. If spreading lies is dangerous, having a few politicians deciding what the truth is and suppressing anything else is truly lethal.otolith said:
JuanCarlosFandango said:
otolith said:
One man's "pushing against the MSM narrative" is another's "peddling dangerous lies"
Which is why free societies generally let people say their piece and let the public decide for themselves. If spreading lies is dangerous, having a few politicians deciding what the truth is and suppressing anything else is truly lethal.Far better to let the loons say what they want ( actual incitement of violence excluded) and be shown to be loons.
otolith said:
JuanCarlosFandango said:
otolith said:
One man's "pushing against the MSM narrative" is another's "peddling dangerous lies"
Which is why free societies generally let people say their piece and let the public decide for themselves. If spreading lies is dangerous, having a few politicians deciding what the truth is and suppressing anything else is truly lethal.deckster said:
JuanCarlosFandango said:
It is a reminder of why it's worth looking beyond what's on Twitter and Youtube to get a wider view than the one they would like to present.
You know when your views are too deranged for Youtube & Twitter? That's a sign, that is.
If they deleted it it's wrong, they wouldn't have deleted it if it wasn't wrong.
otolith said:
W11PEL said:
Any channel that pushes against the MSM narrative gets shut down!!
One man's "pushing against the MSM narrative" is another's "peddling dangerous lies"Jasandjules said:
Indeed. But who gets to decide what is the "truth"? And upon what basis? That you do not consider freedom of speech to be a two way street is a scary thing to me. How would you feel if it was reversed and the MSM narrative was shut down ?
Aaaaaaand so we're back full circle. I believe (without evidence) that I'm being lied to. Therefore, fact that this isn't being reported in the "MSM" means that the "MSM" is somehow corrupt and is perpetuating the lie. Therefore, what I believe is obviously some secret truth that is being deliberately suppressed. Therefore, there is some global conspiracy to keep the truth out of the hands of the sheeple.Something like that, anyway.
Jasandjules said:
otolith said:
W11PEL said:
Any channel that pushes against the MSM narrative gets shut down!!
One man's "pushing against the MSM narrative" is another's "peddling dangerous lies"The right to free speech does not extent to the right to borrow someone else's megaphone.
deckster said:
W11PEL said:
If it is "weird nonsense" then we all have nothing to fear. You had "no idea" who they are. I suspect there are millions in the UK who have not heard of this outfit. It would be nice if the WEF are just an impotent fringe organisation with no power and no mandate.. Unfortunately it would appear that this is not the case.
How people view Covid and everything that surrounds it is entirely up to them. I think the WEF, what it stands for and what it wants implemented should be taken very seriously.
One needs to be objective and look at things with an open mind. Many posters on PH are questioning how things are playing out and in what direction we are all heading. These people are invariably labelled tin foil nut jobs by another contingent.
I think we are all in grave danger. We are clearly being lied to. History is doomed to repeat itself unfortunately. I am not going to flippantly brush everything off and hope for the best. I'm very concerned and am now making plans.
Dude. Step away from the internet, seriously. It's bad for you.How people view Covid and everything that surrounds it is entirely up to them. I think the WEF, what it stands for and what it wants implemented should be taken very seriously.
One needs to be objective and look at things with an open mind. Many posters on PH are questioning how things are playing out and in what direction we are all heading. These people are invariably labelled tin foil nut jobs by another contingent.
I think we are all in grave danger. We are clearly being lied to. History is doomed to repeat itself unfortunately. I am not going to flippantly brush everything off and hope for the best. I'm very concerned and am now making plans.
I know it's difficult at the moment, but go outside. Take a walk in the open air. Buy a bike and get yourself properly knackered of an afternoon. Take up knitting. Just do something other than watching conspiracy crap on youtube.
There is no global conspiracy. The WEF is just a group of CEOs and celebs backslapping and trying to sell stuff to each other. There is no shadowy cabal taking over the world for their own malign ends. Bill Gates is not injecting you with 5G nanobots.
The world has enough problems without people inventing bogeymen.
that moves them up from "bogeymen".
monkfish1 said:
deckster said:
W11PEL said:
If it is "weird nonsense" then we all have nothing to fear. You had "no idea" who they are. I suspect there are millions in the UK who have not heard of this outfit. It would be nice if the WEF are just an impotent fringe organisation with no power and no mandate.. Unfortunately it would appear that this is not the case.
How people view Covid and everything that surrounds it is entirely up to them. I think the WEF, what it stands for and what it wants implemented should be taken very seriously.
One needs to be objective and look at things with an open mind. Many posters on PH are questioning how things are playing out and in what direction we are all heading. These people are invariably labelled tin foil nut jobs by another contingent.
I think we are all in grave danger. We are clearly being lied to. History is doomed to repeat itself unfortunately. I am not going to flippantly brush everything off and hope for the best. I'm very concerned and am now making plans.
Dude. Step away from the internet, seriously. It's bad for you.How people view Covid and everything that surrounds it is entirely up to them. I think the WEF, what it stands for and what it wants implemented should be taken very seriously.
One needs to be objective and look at things with an open mind. Many posters on PH are questioning how things are playing out and in what direction we are all heading. These people are invariably labelled tin foil nut jobs by another contingent.
I think we are all in grave danger. We are clearly being lied to. History is doomed to repeat itself unfortunately. I am not going to flippantly brush everything off and hope for the best. I'm very concerned and am now making plans.
I know it's difficult at the moment, but go outside. Take a walk in the open air. Buy a bike and get yourself properly knackered of an afternoon. Take up knitting. Just do something other than watching conspiracy crap on youtube.
There is no global conspiracy. The WEF is just a group of CEOs and celebs backslapping and trying to sell stuff to each other. There is no shadowy cabal taking over the world for their own malign ends. Bill Gates is not injecting you with 5G nanobots.
The world has enough problems without people inventing bogeymen.
that moves them up from "bogeymen".
purplepenguin said:
monkfish1 said:
deckster said:
W11PEL said:
If it is "weird nonsense" then we all have nothing to fear. You had "no idea" who they are. I suspect there are millions in the UK who have not heard of this outfit. It would be nice if the WEF are just an impotent fringe organisation with no power and no mandate.. Unfortunately it would appear that this is not the case.
How people view Covid and everything that surrounds it is entirely up to them. I think the WEF, what it stands for and what it wants implemented should be taken very seriously.
One needs to be objective and look at things with an open mind. Many posters on PH are questioning how things are playing out and in what direction we are all heading. These people are invariably labelled tin foil nut jobs by another contingent.
I think we are all in grave danger. We are clearly being lied to. History is doomed to repeat itself unfortunately. I am not going to flippantly brush everything off and hope for the best. I'm very concerned and am now making plans.
Dude. Step away from the internet, seriously. It's bad for you.How people view Covid and everything that surrounds it is entirely up to them. I think the WEF, what it stands for and what it wants implemented should be taken very seriously.
One needs to be objective and look at things with an open mind. Many posters on PH are questioning how things are playing out and in what direction we are all heading. These people are invariably labelled tin foil nut jobs by another contingent.
I think we are all in grave danger. We are clearly being lied to. History is doomed to repeat itself unfortunately. I am not going to flippantly brush everything off and hope for the best. I'm very concerned and am now making plans.
I know it's difficult at the moment, but go outside. Take a walk in the open air. Buy a bike and get yourself properly knackered of an afternoon. Take up knitting. Just do something other than watching conspiracy crap on youtube.
There is no global conspiracy. The WEF is just a group of CEOs and celebs backslapping and trying to sell stuff to each other. There is no shadowy cabal taking over the world for their own malign ends. Bill Gates is not injecting you with 5G nanobots.
The world has enough problems without people inventing bogeymen.
that moves them up from "bogeymen".
Vasco said:
eldar said:
God helps those who help themselves.
Any particular one of the hundreds out there, or are they all just as effective as each other?Iminquarantine said:
Vasco said:
wisbech said:
Saudi Arabia has announced Covid vaccination will be required for Hajj...
So, no jab no pilgrimage
Good, very sensible.So, no jab no pilgrimage
Lily the Pink said:
Iminquarantine said:
Vasco said:
wisbech said:
Saudi Arabia has announced Covid vaccination will be required for Hajj...
So, no jab no pilgrimage
Good, very sensible.So, no jab no pilgrimage
purplepenguin said:
otolith said:
JuanCarlosFandango said:
otolith said:
One man's "pushing against the MSM narrative" is another's "peddling dangerous lies"
Which is why free societies generally let people say their piece and let the public decide for themselves. If spreading lies is dangerous, having a few politicians deciding what the truth is and suppressing anything else is truly lethal.Far better to let the loons say what they want ( actual incitement of violence excluded) and be shown to be loons.
Society “we have listened to your ideas. We have decided that are stupid and encouraging other stupid people to do stupid things”
“THATS SO UNFAIR!”.
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