North Korea - how serious should we take them?
Discussion
Apache said:
Would it not be a lot more grown up just to let Kim I'll stamp my feet till someone listens, throw his artillery shells into the sea? I mean why respond? it's like giving a toddler time for throwing a hissy fit
He cant hide incoming from his own people, as much as he would like to. So it tells NK population that maybe, just maybe, the South isn't as weak as he tells them.This is the problem with NK; I'd gladly watch them get invaded and his army flattened and free the population. However the army are under the same boot and know no better, so that's not entirely fair.
They're all going to be getting a rather big shock when his regime does fall and they see how much they've been duped and how people in the free world really live. I'd be fking livid.
They're all going to be getting a rather big shock when his regime does fall and they see how much they've been duped and how people in the free world really live. I'd be fking livid.
Jimbeaux said:
May be better to airdrop a few million charged MI-FIs and iPads so they can get a good look at better lives elsewhere and finally do a takedown from the inside. Oh, and tie a McDonald"s happy meal to each little parachute as well.
NK has fairly good air defence and certainly wouldn't welcome perpetrators. That wouldn't end well.AreOut said:
Jimbeaux said:
May be better to airdrop a few million charged MI-FIs and iPads so they can get a good look at better lives elsewhere and finally do a takedown from the inside. Oh, and tie a McDonald"s happy meal to each little parachute as well.
NK has fairly good air defence and certainly wouldn't welcome perpetrators. That wouldn't end well.http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/foreign/26-Mar-2014/s...
http://www.voanews.com/content/skorean-activists-s...
Needless to say it's a major sticking point in North South relations
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-06/28/nor...
i.e "send anymore balloons over the border and we will find out who you are and kill you"
Dog Star said:
This is the problem with NK; I'd gladly watch them get invaded and his army flattened and free the population. However the army are under the same boot and know no better, so that's not entirely fair.
They're all going to be getting a rather big shock when his regime does fall and they see how much they've been duped and how people in the free world really live. I'd be fking livid.
Here's the problem as I see itThey're all going to be getting a rather big shock when his regime does fall and they see how much they've been duped and how people in the free world really live. I'd be fking livid.
If we go in: Many of the NK population will die fighting and as collateral damage.
If we encourage revolution: Many of the NK population will die fighting and in camps.
If we don't go in: Many of the NK population will die in camps and of starvation.
Basically there is no good option, and we'd be on the hook financially with (So sorry many of you got killed payments), if we get too involved. So we watch them die, rather than kill them. It's all fun fun fun.
AreOut said:
Jimbeaux said:
May be better to airdrop a few million charged MI-FIs and iPads so they can get a good look at better lives elsewhere and finally do a takedown from the inside. Oh, and tie a McDonald"s happy meal to each little parachute as well.
NK has fairly good air defence and certainly wouldn't welcome perpetrators. That wouldn't end well.Jimbeaux said:
AreOut said:
Jimbeaux said:
May be better to airdrop a few million charged MI-FIs and iPads so they can get a good look at better lives elsewhere and finally do a takedown from the inside. Oh, and tie a McDonald"s happy meal to each little parachute as well.
NK has fairly good air defence and certainly wouldn't welcome perpetrators. That wouldn't end well.Mermaid said:
Jimbeaux said:
AreOut said:
Jimbeaux said:
May be better to airdrop a few million charged MI-FIs and iPads so they can get a good look at better lives elsewhere and finally do a takedown from the inside. Oh, and tie a McDonald"s happy meal to each little parachute as well.
NK has fairly good air defence and certainly wouldn't welcome perpetrators. That wouldn't end well.jmorgan said:
Problem with a captive population. Even if someone has a coup tomorrow non west intervention there is the potential for mayhem.
Not half. The Iraq thing illustrated what happens if you overturn a highly ordered tyranny without having a transition plan and dismantle the apparatus of state before there's a replacement available; it all goes to ratst in a New York minute, the populace think you're a cock and throw shoes at you. The planning/prep to deal with the fallout from overturning NK will be a lot more expensive and time-consuming than the military effort to achieve the toppling in the first place.Edited by hidetheelephants on Tuesday 1st April 20:50
Mermaid said:
hidetheelephants said:
The planning/prep to deal with the fallout from overturning NK will be a lot more expensive and time-consuming than the military effort to achieve the toppling in the fist place.
& no-one willing to pay the cost, and/for no oil resources to pillage.Jimbeaux said:
Mermaid said:
hidetheelephants said:
The planning/prep to deal with the fallout from overturning NK will be a lot more expensive and time-consuming than the military effort to achieve the toppling in the fist place.
& no-one willing to pay the cost, and/for no oil resources to pillage.hidetheelephants said:
jmorgan said:
Problem with a captive population. Even if someone has a coup tomorrow non west intervention there is the potential for mayhem.
Not half. The Iraq thing illustrated what happens if you overturn a highly ordered tyranny without having a transition plan and dismantle the apparatus of state before there's a replacement available; it all goes to ratst in a New York minute, the populace think you're a cock and throw shoes at you. The planning/prep to deal with the fallout from overturning NK will be a lot more expensive and time-consuming than the military effort to achieve the toppling in the first place.Half the problems with Iraq are related to it's complicated ethnic and religious make up combined with the fact that the great satan invaded. The North Koreans were effectively one people with the south, though 60 years of insane rule may have changed that to a degree.
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