45th President Of The United States, Donald Trump (Vol. 14)

[Byker28i]

trumps NY rally in the Bronx NY only attracted about 3500 people, and the rally had a tiny max capacity of 2300 so maybe around a thousand of those were outside waiting to get in, allowed in as many started leaving during trumps speech.

Again people spotted in the crowd behind trump those paid to attend trumps rallys

One comment
"Max capacity limit is 2,300. And trump still pays for people to attend his rallies on Craigslist."

https://www.rawstory.com/stream-of-people-leaving-...


Remember his claim he'd hold his rally in Maddison Square Gardens and fill it

Edited by Byker28i on Friday 24th May 08:22

[Byker28i]

NY Congressman Ritchie Torres

donald trump is right now holding a rally in my district.

His presidency was a catastrophe for the Bronx. His mismanagement of COVID resulted in more deaths than Pearl Harbor and 9/11 combined. He should apologize to the people of the Bronx rather than hold a rally.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1793786758330569057

[Byker28i]

Countdown?

[Byker28i]

CBS news are reporting that migrant crossings at the U.S.-Mexico border have plunged 54% from record highs,
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-us-mexico...

Time for GOP claims if an immigrant caravan and crisis?

[Byker28i]

trump Bronx rally, he introduced Sleepy Hallow and Sheff G, who were indicted last May along with 30 other gang members on a 140 count criminal indictment including murder and at least 12 shootings. Sheff G recently posted a $1.5 million cash bond to get released.

[Byker28i]

A person in the crowd passed out and is getting medical attention, so trump takes out a bottle of water and then drinks it himself.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1793792262586908928

Thoughts and prayers


Not sure his usual stuff goes down well in the bronx, it's designed for his white maga supporters

Usual racist stuff from trump
"We don't have any idea. We don't even know what the language you know. You have languages that people don't even know about. We have languages where there's nobody in our country that speaks these languages."
https://twitter.com/i/status/1793788247992320163

Did his standard how hard his life is, with his lie "A lot of people ask me how do you put your pants on?” - standard many people tell
https://twitter.com/i/status/1793785504674279652


People walkign out
https://twitter.com/i/status/1793778279159103769

George Santos was there - it's a criminal gathering
https://twitter.com/i/status/1793722776785690906

Edited by Byker28i on Friday 24th May 08:34

[Byker28i]

New grift from Flynn and his conspiracy that the Covid pandemic was all planned by deep state and they are planning another
so buy now his medical kit...

[5 In a Row]

PomBstard said:

And it’s this that I just don’t understand. Trump and co have all said what they’re going to do, and none of it is related to actually governing or making coherent policy, so what does the Trump Voter actually think they’re getting? Is it really just the fact that he’s Not The Other Guy??

I know all the acolytes and other hangers on are in it for the money but do all the ordinary Americans who will vote for him really not care about either who he is, what he’s done, or that he doesn’t give a monkeys about anyone else but himself?

Clearly the answer is,”No” but then, why?

Presumably because they're right wing nutters who believe all the culture wars type bks and can sort of see that the people behind Trump have the same views as themselves.

Plus there's the 'American Dream' stuff where they see that even though they have a rubbish job its entirely possible that they'll be a successful billionaire at some random point in the future, even though the 'successful billionaire' in front of them (and some of those behind him) started out with significant wealth in the first place. They appear to choose to not see that.

[Blackpuddin]

There are probably a few people going to these 'rallies' in order to make a statement out of leaving early but I suspect a bigger number of them are only going to cop a glimpse of trump and the razzmatazz surrounding someone famous.

[Castrol for a knave]

We just had visitors over from the States, highly educated, affable West Coasters. We didn't get into specifics on Biden / Trump, as, like religion, somethings are best left., We did have several conversations, and the take away points were:

• They don't trust the media, any media. The preferred option is You Tube and Podcasts, esp Joe Rogan. Printed media is seen as left wing and nobody really reads it anyway.

• They were stunned that we had "impartial" news media, OFCOM and that Fox News fails our legislative requirements (as do RT and News TV)

• Still stunned that our judiciary is appointed on merit, wholly independent of politics

• The homeless problem is atrocious. It's reached a point where local politicians just move them on / bus them out. Many are veterans. Nobody seems to give a st and there is no thought of preventative programmes or programmes to deal with the issue at its core, just move 'em on, move 'em on.

• There is little if any confidence in politicians - the view is they are out for money and power and the idea of bipartisanship died sometime in the mid 90's

• The system is so broken, and so many people have so little confidence in it, that it is leaving the door open for the populists, who gather up the protest vote. Then there are the voters who just stand to make money and fk the rest of the country.

What I took away, was that decent people are just exhausted with how politics is played out, and desperately want something to break the status quo, be it left or right. This is warning for us, as we seem to be slipping ever deeper into tribalism, patronage and kleptocracy.

[paulguitar]

Castrol for a knave said:

• They don't trust the media, any media. The preferred option is You Tube and Podcasts, esp Joe Rogan.

[LordLoveLength]

I’ve seen bigger crowds for a funfair! He just isn’t attracting the crowds he was even 4 years ago

[Blackpuddin]

Castrol for a knave said:

We just had visitors over from the States, highly educated, affable West Coasters. We didn't get into specifics on Biden / Trump, as, like religion, somethings are best left., We did have several conversations, and the take away points were:

• They don't trust the media, any media. The preferred option is You Tube and Podcasts, esp Joe Rogan. Printed media is seen as left wing and nobody really reads it anyway.

• They were stunned that we had "impartial" news media, OFCOM and that Fox News fails our legislative requirements (as do RT and News TV)

• Still stunned that our judiciary is appointed on merit, wholly independent of politics

• The homeless problem is atrocious. It's reached a point where local politicians just move them on / bus them out. Many are veterans. Nobody seems to give a st and there is no thought of preventative programmes or programmes to deal with the issue at its core, just move 'em on, move 'em on.

• There is little if any confidence in politicians - the view is they are out for money and power and the idea of bipartisanship died sometime in the mid 90's

• The system is so broken, and so many people have so little confidence in it, that it is leaving the door open for the populists, who gather up the protest vote. Then there are the voters who just stand to make money and fk the rest of the country.

What I took away, was that decent people are just exhausted with how politics is played out, and desperately want something to break the status quo, be it left or right. This is warning for us, as we seem to be slipping ever deeper into tribalism, patronage and kleptocracy.

100% agree with that prognosis for the UK. The US model of 'see what you can get away with and if anybody queries it just ignore them' is being happily embraced here by those in authority.

[wc98]

Castrol for a knave said:

We just had visitors over from the States, highly educated, affable West Coasters. We didn't get into specifics on Biden / Trump, as, like religion, somethings are best left., We did have several conversations, and the take away points were:

• They don't trust the media, any media. The preferred option is You Tube and Podcasts, esp Joe Rogan. Printed media is seen as left wing and nobody really reads it anyway.

• They were stunned that we had "impartial" news media, OFCOM and that Fox News fails our legislative requirements (as do RT and News TV)

• Still stunned that our judiciary is appointed on merit, wholly independent of politics

• The homeless problem is atrocious. It's reached a point where local politicians just move them on / bus them out. Many are veterans. Nobody seems to give a st and there is no thought of preventative programmes or programmes to deal with the issue at its core, just move 'em on, move 'em on.

• There is little if any confidence in politicians - the view is they are out for money and power and the idea of bipartisanship died sometime in the mid 90's

• The system is so broken, and so many people have so little confidence in it, that it is leaving the door open for the populists, who gather up the protest vote. Then there are the voters who just stand to make money and fk the rest of the country.

What I took away, was that decent people are just exhausted with how politics is played out, and desperately want something to break the status quo, be it left or right. This is warning for us, as we seem to be slipping ever deeper into tribalism, patronage and kleptocracy.

It should be taken as a warning for us, but i don't think it will be until it is too late.

[ScotHill]

LordLoveLength said:

I’ve seen bigger crowds for a funfair! He just isn’t attracting the crowds he was even 4 years ago

And yet the odds are wider than they have been for months, Biden back up to 2.5 and Trump down to 1.8. Must have been all that excellent PR from the criminal trial.

[wc98]

Blackpuddin said:

100% agree with that prognosis for the UK. The US model of 'see what you can get away with and if anybody queries it just ignore them' is being happily embraced here by those in authority.

Boris was the prime example and an indicator of how far down that road we are already. I know plenty will disagree on here but for me he was the least fit person to have leading the country by a long way.

[MBBlat]

wc98 said:

Blackpuddin said:

100% agree with that prognosis for the UK. The US model of 'see what you can get away with and if anybody queries it just ignore them' is being happily embraced here by those in authority.

Boris was the prime example and an indicator of how far down that road we are already. I know plenty will disagree on here but for me he was the least fit person to have leading the country by a long way.

Boris lost all my respect when he backed Brexit not for any deeply held conviction or even because he thought it would be best for the country but because he, correctly as it turned out, thought it was his quickest rout to PM.

Trump is in it mainly for the ego, he couldn’t care less about the USA, Republicans or even the MAGA faithful. It’s Trump first, last and every point in between.

[CraigyMc]

MBBlat said:

wc98 said:

Blackpuddin said:

100% agree with that prognosis for the UK. The US model of 'see what you can get away with and if anybody queries it just ignore them' is being happily embraced here by those in authority.

Boris was the prime example and an indicator of how far down that road we are already. I know plenty will disagree on here but for me he was the least fit person to have leading the country by a long way.

Boris lost all my respect when he backed Brexit not for any deeply held conviction or even because he thought it would be best for the country but because he, correctly as it turned out, thought it was his quickest rout to PM.

Trump is in it mainly for the ego, he couldn’t care less about the USA, Republicans or even the MAGA faithful. It’s Trump first, last and every point in between.

I'm staggered that you had any respect for Boris in the first place, then decided he'd lost it based on logic.

It suggests you thought he was OK in the first place based on some Logic, which is just bizarre to me; he has never been the choice of the rational, just the choice of the "fk it, he's entertaining" plebiscite.

[MBBlat]

CraigyMc said:

MBBlat said:

wc98 said:

Blackpuddin said:

100% agree with that prognosis for the UK. The US model of 'see what you can get away with and if anybody queries it just ignore them' is being happily embraced here by those in authority.

Boris was the prime example and an indicator of how far down that road we are already. I know plenty will disagree on here but for me he was the least fit person to have leading the country by a long way.

Boris lost all my respect when he backed Brexit not for any deeply held conviction or even because he thought it would be best for the country but because he, correctly as it turned out, thought it was his quickest rout to PM.

Trump is in it mainly for the ego, he couldn’t care less about the USA, Republicans or even the MAGA faithful. It’s Trump first, last and every point in between.

I'm staggered that you had any respect for Boris in the first place, then decided he'd lost it based on logic.

It suggests you thought he was OK in the first place based on some Logic, which is just bizarre to me; he has never been the choice of the rational, just the choice of the "fk it, he's entertaining" plebiscite.

Might have been better to say I lost what little remaining respect I had. But this is the Trump thread, so will leave it at that.

[Byker28i]

Only bit of slight respect I had for Boris was during the covid crisis. It was obvious nothing was planned, information was changing daily or more but at least he stepped up and did a briefing every night, trying his best in a bad situation and at least listened to advisors.

trump however, ignored all advice, thought he knew better, plus tried to bury any bad news, whilst withholding or threatening to withhold aid to Dem states several times, unless they praised him.
Quid pro quo everytime with trump