Brexit - was it worth it? (Vol. 4)
Discussion
LimmerickLad said:
bad company said:
As I said previously I voted for membership of the Common Market and would do so again. The EU is becoming all too powerful seemingly wanting to create a United States of Europe.
Our parliament and courts should be overruled by the EU.
Don't you mean should NOT be overruled?Our parliament and courts should be overruled by the EU.
Edited by LimmerickLad on Tuesday 21st May 15:20
Edited by LimmerickLad on Tuesday 21st May 15:21
I was reminded just yesterday how worth it Brexit has been, as I queued for an hour in the “other passports” line in Italy, whilst “EU only” flowed freely.
When there was no one to use the EU queues they opened them up to US passport holders.
It seems to me that we’ve made everyday life more difficult at home and abroad by voting to leave.
But at least I can have a BLUE passport next time.
Louis Balfour said:
I was reminded just yesterday how worth it Brexit has been, as I queued for an hour in the “other passports” line in Italy, whilst “EU only” flowed freely.
When there was no one to use the EU queues they opened them up to US passport holders.
It seems to me that we’ve made everyday life more difficult at home and abroad by voting to leave.
But at least I can have a BLUE passport next time.
Joining schengen would fix a lot of that friction fir traveller's.When there was no one to use the EU queues they opened them up to US passport holders.
It seems to me that we’ve made everyday life more difficult at home and abroad by voting to leave.
But at least I can have a BLUE passport next time.
M.
bloomen said:
Louis Balfour said:
But at least I can have a BLUE passport next time.
When my blue passport arrived I sought out my Brexit/ UKIP mother and flobbed the drippiest pool of gob I could possibly muster all over the sodding thing. My old burgundy passport was printed in East Anglia by De La Rue.
Brexit: making other countries richer.
bloomen said:
Mortarboard said:
Joining schengen would fix a lot of that friction fir traveller's.
Never had an issue with passport queue prejudice myself, but the way they seem to be run is mercurial in the extreme no matter where you go. And I'd rather they had one less reason to be mercurial. M.
bloomen said:
Louis Balfour said:
But at least I can have a BLUE passport next time.
When my blue passport arrived I sought out my Brexit/ UKIP mother and flobbed the drippiest pool of gob I could possibly muster all over the sodding thing. bad company said:
bloomen said:
Louis Balfour said:
But at least I can have a BLUE passport next time.
When my blue passport arrived I sought out my Brexit/ UKIP mother and flobbed the drippiest pool of gob I could possibly muster all over the sodding thing. / sovereignty (meaningless)/ foreigners / EU laws (that they couldn’t give an example of)
They were groomed into blaming the EU for their woes.
But, that type are now a lot worse off, affected more than most
Every cloud.
We told you so.
bad company said:
bloomen said:
Louis Balfour said:
But at least I can have a BLUE passport next time.
When my blue passport arrived I sought out my Brexit/ UKIP mother and flobbed the drippiest pool of gob I could possibly muster all over the sodding thing. But I do think they were heavily influenced (by the straw-haired one who promoted the BBBLUE passport) to believe that Brexit would deliver benefits that were never a reality.
So many people hoodwinked in pursuit of the political ambitions of one not very intelligent politician. It doesn’t speak well of us, as a nation.
CivicDuties said:
Today's Brexit wins:
https://x.com/seatsixtyone/status/1792869556777599...
https://twitter.com/DPhinnemore/status/17928043692...
https://twitter.com/SimonCalder/status/17928164803...
Happy Holidays and business tripping, everyone! Worth it to stop the boats and keep the care workers from bringing their families with them! Huzzah for Billy Britain!
You obviously don't understand why the EU have introduced this system (over 4 years later than planned and fook all to do with Brexit).https://x.com/seatsixtyone/status/1792869556777599...
https://twitter.com/DPhinnemore/status/17928043692...
https://twitter.com/SimonCalder/status/17928164803...
Happy Holidays and business tripping, everyone! Worth it to stop the boats and keep the care workers from bringing their families with them! Huzzah for Billy Britain!
It's a system designed to speed up the 300 million border crossings per year of none EU/none Schengen area citizens(eg the Irish) into the Schengen area by registering bio data once every five years, once that initial registration is completed at first crossing under the new system, you then use the auto kiosk at the border for the next 5 years.
UK citizens would have had to go through this process with or without Brexit.
You can read the impact assement document at https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/document/downloa...
some key points
What are the benefits of the preferred option?
Social impact: Positive impact on border crossing time at entry for travellers using the self-service kiosks.
Benefits for border guards in terms of saved workload. Positive impact for law enforcement authorities.
What are the costs of the preferred option?
Social impact: Slight negative impact on border crossing time at entry for visa-exempt travellers at first enrolment
(i.e. estimated additional 40 seconds to the border crossing time), however mitigated by the use of process
accelerators such as self-service kiosks (see above).
CivicDuties said:
"Ahead of the EU's much-delayed Entry/Exit System (which the UK demanded should apply to us) a Lords committee urges the government to “use all diplomatic efforts” to persuade Brussels to defer the launch beyond Oct/Nov or risk disruption and delays in Kent"What's the Oct/Nov significance? Don't tell me the elections
Mortarboard said:
Louis Balfour said:
I was reminded just yesterday how worth it Brexit has been, as I queued for an hour in the “other passports” line in Italy, whilst “EU only” flowed freely.
When there was no one to use the EU queues they opened them up to US passport holders.
It seems to me that we’ve made everyday life more difficult at home and abroad by voting to leave.
But at least I can have a BLUE passport next time.
Joining schengen would fix a lot of that friction fir traveller's.When there was no one to use the EU queues they opened them up to US passport holders.
It seems to me that we’ve made everyday life more difficult at home and abroad by voting to leave.
But at least I can have a BLUE passport next time.
M.
I flew back from Thailand yesterday into Manchester
At no point was passport control an issue.
At Doha for the transfer again we had to pass through passport control, at this point being an EU or British passport holder made no practical difference.
It's simply a small amount of time.
Admittedly queues vary on differing days.
I would say the time going through the scanners is more of an issue due to the amount of people of all nationalities not understanding the basic concept of putting items in trays.
At no point was passport control an issue.
At Doha for the transfer again we had to pass through passport control, at this point being an EU or British passport holder made no practical difference.
It's simply a small amount of time.
Admittedly queues vary on differing days.
I would say the time going through the scanners is more of an issue due to the amount of people of all nationalities not understanding the basic concept of putting items in trays.
Louis Balfour said:
mikebradford said:
I flew back from Thailand yesterday into Manchester
At no point was passport control an issue.
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Thailand that popular European destination.At no point was passport control an issue.
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The point under discussion is passing through EU ports.
It does vary. I believe in some countries you can use the automatic gates. In the country I live in you cannot. So you have to get your passport stamped. Delay varies. Can be no more than a few minutes. However, one flight I used on some days lands just after a flight from a visa country. 200 passengers in front of you needing there visa to be checked means a queue of over an hour.
If you travel a lot in the EU then you need to monitor the 90/180 day rule. Breach that and you can be handed for entry for 2 years.
Oilchange said:
The time spent going through border checks seems to be a product of queue length, largely. EU or not.
Well yes, but when the queue length is increased because three non-Schengen flights try to squeeze through two “other passports” lines and the EU lines are empty it doesn’t make one view Brexit fondly.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff