Pregnant at 15. Mum 'Delighted'...

Pregnant at 15. Mum 'Delighted'...

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cal72

7,839 posts

172 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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Frankeh said:
Just to make it even more piss boiling, the daily mail have the story now too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2026575/So...

laugh
Looks like Katie price(jordan)is going to have some competition in a few years.
Is there a tart/slapper/minger of the year contest?

Zwoelf

25,867 posts

208 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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TorqueVR said:
Ther's an alternative to giving the mum (grandmum) a 5 bedroom house. The council provide a 5 bed house and they put 5 young mums, babies and any fathers wo have not done a runner in 1 room/family. They then run the home themselves, learn to act like adults and the (grand)parents take a back seat.
Council guidelines vary but there is no requirement for each occupant of a house to have a room to themself. Only guideline (note, not law) is that where there are children of different sexes, they should have separate rooms once over (varies, but 10-12) years of age. There's no such stipulation that applies to privately owned or rented properties.

There are only two genders so it's one room for parents and one for each gender of children. So she can be put in a three bedroom property. Her mother can then go into a bedsit.

Also, as JobRB posted, if one party is over 13 and the other under 18 years of age it's not necessarily criminal under the SOA2003, section 9. Rape kicks in for sexual activity with under 13s.

FWIW I think there should be no further benefits payable for children conceived and born whilst already in receipt of benefits - that's a lifestyle choice you've made and one many people who work and earn reasonable wages successfully manage to delay until they can afford to have children.

Family planning clinics are free. Contraception in many forms are free. These people should use them. By not doing so they are creating more problems for society that they or their offspring often end up doing nothing to alleviate. They just learn how to work the system better whilst the mugs all go to work and pay for it all.

Edited by Zwoelf on Wednesday 17th August 11:40

stuttgartmetal

8,111 posts

218 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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The mothers a media manipulator, however the stuff she's pedalling aint no beauty.
She'll no doubt get her kids name known, and by 19/20 be on television x.
An ugly life in more than one dimension.
Was sam fox on page 3 at 18? pedalled on in there, and what a sad and probably lonely individual she turned out to be.

Ganglandboss

8,316 posts

205 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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stuttgartmetal said:
The mothers a media manipulator, however the stuff she's pedalling aint no beauty.
She'll no doubt get her kids name known, and by 19/20 be on television x.
An ugly life in more than one dimension.
Was sam fox on page 3 at 18? pedalled on in there, and what a sad and probably lonely individual she turned out to be.
Sam Fox was only 16 when she was on page 3. It wouldn't be possible now as the Sexual Offences Act 2003 raised the minimum age for topless modelling to 18.


Edited by Ganglandboss on Wednesday 17th August 12:26

dudleybloke

19,996 posts

188 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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Frankeh said:
Anyone who says modelling is an easy career is talking bks. Think of the average shelf life of a model.
By about 30, they're done.
The average shelf life of a banker? As long as you want. How olds Warren buffett?

Not to mention that unless you're a supermodel you're getting paid st to appear in st and treated like st.
its not like they've had to get a masters degree to be a model though is it.


ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

175 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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dudleybloke said:
Frankeh said:
Anyone who says modelling is an easy career is talking bks. Think of the average shelf life of a model.
By about 30, they're done.
The average shelf life of a banker? As long as you want. How olds Warren buffett?

Not to mention that unless you're a supermodel you're getting paid st to appear in st and treated like st.
its not like they've had to get a masters degree to be a model though is it.
True but lots of hard jobs don't require a masters degree.

JonRB

74,957 posts

274 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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ZOLLAR said:
True but lots of hand jobs don't require a masters degree.
whistle

Frankeh

12,558 posts

187 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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dudleybloke said:
Frankeh said:
Anyone who says modelling is an easy career is talking bks. Think of the average shelf life of a model.
By about 30, they're done.
The average shelf life of a banker? As long as you want. How olds Warren buffett?

Not to mention that unless you're a supermodel you're getting paid st to appear in st and treated like st.
its not like they've had to get a masters degree to be a model though is it.
You can get a masters in film studies. Your point?

ZOLLAR

19,908 posts

175 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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JonRB said:
ZOLLAR said:
True but lots of hand jobs don't require a masters degree.
whistle
laugh

dudleybloke

19,996 posts

188 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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Frankeh said:
dudleybloke said:
Frankeh said:
Anyone who says modelling is an easy career is talking bks. Think of the average shelf life of a model.
By about 30, they're done.
The average shelf life of a banker? As long as you want. How olds Warren buffett?

Not to mention that unless you're a supermodel you're getting paid st to appear in st and treated like st.
its not like they've had to get a masters degree to be a model though is it.
You can get a masters in film studies. Your point?
my point is so what if they,re career ends at 30. they know its going to happen so should prepare for it.
iv known a few girls who have done modelling and they all knew its a short term thing and treated it as so, getting qualifications/experience in a proper job while still modelling.




Zwoelf

25,867 posts

208 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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dudleybloke said:
my point is so what if they,re career ends at 30. they know its going to happen so should prepare for it.
iv known a few girls who have done modelling and they all knew its a short term thing and treated it as so, getting qualifications/experience in a proper job while still modelling.
Porn and prostitution for the ones who don't I guess.

mgmrw

20,951 posts

159 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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Zwoelf said:
Porn and prostitution for the ones who don't I guess.
judging by your typical porn "actor/actress" by 30 she's be at the end of her MILF career and moving into directing

Zwoelf

25,867 posts

208 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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mgmrw said:
Zwoelf said:
Porn and prostitution for the ones who don't I guess.
judging by your typical porn "actor/actress" by 30 she's be at the end of her MILF career and moving into directing
Don't be daft, the MILF genre starts at 30. No coincidence I tell you. I suspect there's probably a statistically and logically insupportable number of 29 year old "escorts" at any given time.

mgmrw

20,951 posts

159 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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Zwoelf said:
Don't be daft, the MILF genre starts at 30. No coincidence I tell you. I suspect there's probably a statistically and logically insupportable number of 29 year old "escorts" at any given time.
a 29 year old escort can't have been good enough to earn enough money in her 12years "working" hehe


Zwoelf

25,867 posts

208 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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mgmrw said:
Zwoelf said:
Don't be daft, the MILF genre starts at 30. No coincidence I tell you. I suspect there's probably a statistically and logically insupportable number of 29 year old "escorts" at any given time.
a 29 year old escort can't have been good enough to earn enough money in her 12years "working" hehe
nono They start off as "exotic dancers"...

Although to be fair, your point still stands

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

235 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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mgmrw said:
a 29 year old escort can't have been good enough to earn enough money in her 12years "working" hehe
I think his point is that 29 is when they start beuying claped out mass produced old bangers.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

254 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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dudleybloke said:
Frankeh said:
Anyone who says modelling is an easy career is talking bks. Think of the average shelf life of a model.
By about 30, they're done.
The average shelf life of a banker? As long as you want. How olds Warren buffett?

Not to mention that unless you're a supermodel you're getting paid st to appear in st and treated like st.
its not like they've had to get a masters degree to be a model though is it.
I'd imagine many models work a lot harder in their late teens than someone stuck in education till their early 20's.

mgmrw

20,951 posts

159 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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Zwoelf said:
nono They start off as "exotic dancers"...

Although to be fair, your point still stands
if you believe our media (big if) the average ripper earns 2grand a night and simillar for what a high class escort can earn in 4hours.

Sooo, if they avoid narcotics and jail (and a suitcase in a field) then retiring at 30 would seem viable

Zwoelf

25,867 posts

208 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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mgmrw said:
if you believe our media (big if) the average ripper earns 2grand a night and simillar for what a high class escort can earn in 4hours.
Not quite, I tend to believe an acquaintance who (in addition to studying full time for her sports science degree) was a "dancer" - she completed her degree and opened a suitably swanky gym - with cash. She continued to do "private work" for her fun money as she'd got used to the income level and didn't mind the "work" at all. Far preferable to a succession of wastrel boyfriends in her eyes.

mgmrw said:
Sooo, if they avoid narcotics and jail (and a suitcase in a field) then retiring at 30 would seem viable
The former is quite hard as it goes with the lifestyle to an extent, although as she put it "if you're good enough, you never have to pay for your drugs". The harder thing was ever trying to have a "normal" relationship. Just not doable, which is why so many of them end up with bouncers and the drama that can bring them. An easy option/lifestyle choice it is not. Money's all well and good - but it's not without considerable costs in other areas.

we've lost touch, but she'll be about 35 now and going by how things were a few years back - could well retire for all practical purposes.




JonRB

74,957 posts

274 months

Wednesday 17th August 2011
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Zwoelf said:
a statistically and logically insupportable number
rofl