US Elections 2012 Obama v Romney Official Thread

[DJRC]

Dixie68 said:

To me, Obama seems to be a level-headed, intelligent person, whereas Romney seems like he's totally batst crazy. On that assessment alone Romney will get elected, (I was convinced Bush wouldn't get a second term).

Romney is batst crazy???

He is the most boringly, dull, mediocre, beige politician Ive ever seen!!!!!!!

[toppstuff]

I have a question.

I cannot for the life of me understand why the GOP does'nt have Condoleezza Rice running for high office?

Does she not want the job? She seems the most credible person of any I have seen associated with the GOP. She would surely tick all the boxes.

[Trommel]

toppstuff said:

I cannot for the life of me understand why the GOP does'nt have Condoleezza Rice running for high office?

Do Mormons like pro-abortion lesbians?

[toppstuff]

Trommel said:

toppstuff said:

I cannot for the life of me understand why the GOP does'nt have Condoleezza Rice running for high office?

Do Mormons like pro-abortion lesbians?

So, once again, the nutters in the fringes are really driving policy?

[Trommel]

I'm not sure they're in the fringes.

[toppstuff]

Trommel said:

I'm not sure they're in the fringes.

Fair point. A black, 57 year old academic woman who never married and has no children. I can see the focus groups not liking that.

[unrepentant]

toppstuff said:

Trommel said:

I'm not sure they're in the fringes.

Fair point. A black, 57 year old academic woman who never married and has no children. I can see the focus groups not liking that.

I'm not sure that Condi wants high political office. She wants to be commissioner of the NFL. So that's another bunch of old rich white guys she has to woo....

[unrepentant]

[Willie Dee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E0oMN2oJj8 - fantastic look into the abortion issue that is so very important to the USA electorate.

[Jimbeaux]

dave stew said:

The Hypno-Toad said:

It was less "Make my day!" more "Where's me cocoa?". Huge mistake by the Republicans.

And I also agree with what you said about the actual election, Obama will make mincemeat out of this guy.

I really hope you're right - most of Europe are petrified of a uber right wing Republican president with as much foreign policy knowledge as my six year old - but, but - a lot of Americans love the prospect.

I just heard a sound bite of Clint Boy's incoherent 'speech'. Not good. But then it was broadcast on the BBC...

You lot may well be surprised at the election outcome that you and especially Unrepentent feel is going to be onesided. As to no foreign policy experience, one hires cabinet members for that advice; however, if you must, what experience did Obama have in that area besides organizing protests in Chicago? That fool has literally never held a real job and you have the nerve to discuss "experience".

[Jimbeaux]

unrepentant said:

toppstuff said:

Trommel said:

I'm not sure they're in the fringes.

Fair point. A black, 57 year old academic woman who never married and has no children. I can see the focus groups not liking that.

I'm not sure that Condi wants high political office. She wants to be commissioner of the NFL. So that's another bunch of old rich white guys she has to woo....

And yet again with the race card que! Unbelievable!

[MartG]

http://blog.duchessstrollins.com/2012/08/30/a-lett...

[CommanderJameson]

stevejh said:

Actually Clint did say one thing which I think we would all agree with. He pointed out that the people own the country and the politicians work for the people. Whether you're in the US or in the UK, or even the EU, I think that's something the politicians seem to have forgotten - or hope that we've forgotten.

For an 82 year old, without an autocue, who is not known for his long speeches, he seemed to do okay and, despite what the MSM are saying, he got huge applause in the hall. There were a couple of cringeworthy moments but isn't that always the case when any 'celebrity' attempts a political speech.

[King Herald]

unrepentant said:

Romney officially becomes the GOP candidate this week so the game is officially on. What are the real issues and how will it turn out? And do we even care?

For my money it's an important election with big issues at stake and real differences between the protagonists.

This is on tv all day and all night in the USA, obviously. It is also covered by tv comedy progs like the Colbert Report, the Daily Show etc.

Unfortunatly, it is very hard to differentiate between the comedy piss takes and the actual political discussions, there is so much ridiculous 'humour' and slandering going on. Sly digs, some not very sly digs. Attempts to ridicule and embarrass the opposition. Dragging up petty comments and irrelevant details, taking words totally out of all context etc.

Overall, it would make me embarrassed to be an American, if I were one, the way this political farce is represented to the world.

I'm sure I've never seen anything like this go in with UK politics.

[Twincam16]

unrepentant said:

I think the most bizarre thing I've heard from him so far is an accusation that Obama's removal of US missil installations from Poland 'leaves our Polish friends undefended' (err, from whom?), and 'has failed to prevent Putin's expansion' (err, into what? Chechnya? Georgia? That was during Bush's era. Putin's only just got back in and the only contentious things he's done are sell some weapons to a despot (again, check the US's own record) and lock up a rock band. Didn't know 'war with Russia' was still a popular US policy).

[rohrl]

Twincam16 said:

I think the most bizarre thing I've heard from him so far is an accusation that Obama's removal of US missile installations from Poland 'leaves our Polish friends undefended' (err, from whom?), and 'has failed to prevent Putin's expansion' (err, into what? Chechnya? Georgia? That was during Bush's era. Putin's only just got back in and the only contentious things he's done are sell some weapons to a despot (again, check the US's own record) and lock up a rock band. Didn't know 'war with Russia' was still a popular US policy).

Putin didn't just get back in, he never went away, he just swapped job titles for a few years as a fig-leaf. I don't think that overheated rhetoric in Moscow's direction helps much but the Russians will see it for what it is, domestic election fodder.

Russia is not what I'd call a proper democracy bound by the rule of law. There was a time when it looked like it might go that way but the scale of corruption and patronage now is on another level. Russia has its own interests and while I wouldn't call them enemies they're certainly not our mates.

[Countdown]

Jimbeaux said:

You lot may well be surprised at the election outcome that you and especially Unrepentent feel is going to be onesided. As to no foreign policy experience, one hires cabinet members for that advice; however, if you must, what experience did Obama have in that area besides organizing protests in Chicago? That fool has literally never held a real job and you have the nerve to discuss "experience".

You could compare US approval ratings during Obama's period in office with ratings during the Texan Chimp's tenure.

[Jimbeaux]

Countdown said:

Jimbeaux said:

You lot may well be surprised at the election outcome that you and especially Unrepentent feel is going to be onesided. As to no foreign policy experience, one hires cabinet members for that advice; however, if you must, what experience did Obama have in that area besides organizing protests in Chicago? That fool has literally never held a real job and you have the nerve to discuss "experience".

You could compare US approval ratings during Obama's period in office with ratings during the Texan Chimp's tenure.

Do as you wish; it is OBummer in office now, nothing to do with Bush. As to the numbers being the same at this time in his 1st term, I do not recall.

[Countdown]

Jimbeaux said:

Countdown said:

Jimbeaux said:

You lot may well be surprised at the election outcome that you and especially Unrepentent feel is going to be onesided. As to no foreign policy experience, one hires cabinet members for that advice; however, if you must, what experience did Obama have in that area besides organizing protests in Chicago? That fool has literally never held a real job and you have the nerve to discuss "experience".

You could compare US approval ratings during Obama's period in office with ratings during the Texan Chimp's tenure.

Do as you wish; it is OBummer in office now, nothing to do with Bush. As to the numbers being the same at this time in his 1st term, I do not recall.

Just to clarify - as your point was about foreign policy I was referring to international approval ratings.

[Jimbeaux]

Countdown said:

Jimbeaux said:

Countdown said:

Jimbeaux said:

You lot may well be surprised at the election outcome that you and especially Unrepentent feel is going to be onesided. As to no foreign policy experience, one hires cabinet members for that advice; however, if you must, what experience did Obama have in that area besides organizing protests in Chicago? That fool has literally never held a real job and you have the nerve to discuss "experience".

You could compare US approval ratings during Obama's period in office with ratings during the Texan Chimp's tenure.

Do as you wish; it is OBummer in office now, nothing to do with Bush. As to the numbers being the same at this time in his 1st term, I do not recall.

Just to clarify - as your point was about foreign policy I was referring to international approval ratings.

Sorry, I misunderstood. TBH, I really am less concerned about international approval ratings. We need to approve of him; if after that, others are happy as well, then the world may smile.