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bobdole said:
andymadmak said:
bobdole said:
I know this as I'm a psychiatrist.
God help your patients if that is true. Which I doubt. Also if you're a psychiatrist that's accredited by any reputable organisation then i'm Herr Hitler's lovechild.
BliarOut said:
bobdole said:
Marf said:
I've read it thanks, something you seem to be failing to do. You appear to skim over people's posts, take offense no matter what they've read then go off on a froth mouthed rant at them.
Would you like a hanky to wipe away the spittle from the corner of your mouth?
Not once have i ranted, not once. Im calm as anything thanks trying to get a simple answer as to why when faced with a terrible story about abuse of young girls at the hands a male gang some people await the race and colour with relish. Surely you should care more about men abusing girls rather than what heritage those men are......child abuse cant be any worse than it already is can it?Would you like a hanky to wipe away the spittle from the corner of your mouth?
Blame the girls? Are you really saying 'they are asking for it'?
Just because a girl is outdoors after dark she isn't giving her consent to be raped you know.
Address the behaviour of the offenders and stop looking for ways to excuse their behaviour.
Some child abusers go for jobs where they wil come in contact with children , schools , youth clubs , scouts etc, they are planning their life around their needs and fantasies. Many of my colleagues doubt Asian men are choosing to work as taxi drivers or fast food joints just to get access to children, they are opportunists, so therefore remove the vunerable child from the equation and abuse won't happen or is obviously less likely to happen. So stopping vunerable children walking to streets is a sure way to stop that . It's very very complex. but to suggest its cultural only is wrong, nothing in that culture suggests child abuse and sex with children is ' a cultural thing' , it's men getting easy gratification from vunerable girls that society didn't give a fig about...
you need only see how long Savile went about his child abuse freely to see that we don't look after vunerable young children that well. Savile infact most likely chose his roles for his sexual leanings. It's too complex. But had people protected those girls from Savile then many lives would of Been saved from ruin. Stopping abuse happening is whether you like it or not about stopping the children being in that place at that time unprotected. Stopping the abuser is harder to do as they are masters at covering it up.
Edited by bobdole on Sunday 9th December 20:01
Ok, so I'm a bloke. I know lots of other blokes. In all my 47 years not one, however well I've known them has suggested we ply young girls with drinks & drugs & see if we can't get off with them when they are out of it. TBH, I think if anyone ever did suggest it, they would have to pretty quickly convince me it was a joke in very poor taste before my size eleven boot sent their knackers through their throat.
Now i know that peados use the internet to 'share resources' but please Bob, explain to me how the f
k do people identify others face to face, who share their 'tastes'?
Now i know that peados use the internet to 'share resources' but please Bob, explain to me how the f
k do people identify others face to face, who share their 'tastes'?
bobdole said:
andymadmak said:
bobdole said:
I know this as I'm a psychiatrist.
God help your patients if that is true. Which I doubt. 7mike said:
Ok, so I'm a bloke. I know lots of other blokes. In all my 47 years not one, however well I've known them has suggested we ply young girls with drinks & drugs & see if we can't get off with them when they are out of it. TBH, I think if anyone ever did suggest it, they would have to pretty quickly convince me it was a joke in very poor taste before my size eleven boot sent their knackers through their throat.
Now i know that peados use the internet to 'share resources' but please Bob, explain to me how the fk do people identify others face to face, who share their 'tastes'?
Well people have varying degrees of things they want to keep secret , me for example secretly enjoy X Factor with my wife yet would never dare tell my closest friends that I have anything but distain for it and its destruction of music and all that other pretentious crap me and my friends bang on about whilst spouting the virtues of Led Zep. Now i know that peados use the internet to 'share resources' but please Bob, explain to me how the f
k do people identify others face to face, who share their 'tastes'?But what if met some chaps online who liked X factor also... people who I realised wouldn't berate me for it?
Ok a deliberate comical context, but it stands, some peados will have 'normal' friends, normal jobs family life yet there is this section of their life where they and some close friends will share a sordid secret. It's not hard to find people with. similar preferences, we as humans do it all the time. Not forgetting in life there's the dominant leaders and the submissive followers, you wonder is there maybe 2 -3 prominant ring leaders on these groups, maybe just 1 leader and the rest sort of fall into it. Mayve even want to stop it but just can't... like I say complex. Sadly some people have to try to work it out even though it would be nice to just grab a can of petrol and go burn down their home with then inside.
Things happen all the time where someone will witness something and afterwards wish they had of done something to stop it, I have witnessed a man being beaten up and I didn't get involved instead I rang the police, I wish I had of had the guts and build to intervene but I didn't. I'd doubt all these gang members are leader and strong so that Is a massive part as to why when it starts to go beyond the lines some people are unable to stop it or themselves mixture of weakness fear and again sadly childhood issues.
like you say many would, I would , but many don't or can't.
and before I get hung again I don't excuse anyone for that kind of weakness, just an answer to the question .
Edited by bobdole on Sunday 9th December 21:11
Edited by bobdole on Sunday 9th December 21:12
Edited by bobdole on Sunday 9th December 21:13
bobdole said:
BliarOut said:
bobdole said:
Marf said:
I've read it thanks, something you seem to be failing to do. You appear to skim over people's posts, take offense no matter what they've read then go off on a froth mouthed rant at them.
Would you like a hanky to wipe away the spittle from the corner of your mouth?
Not once have i ranted, not once. Im calm as anything thanks trying to get a simple answer as to why when faced with a terrible story about abuse of young girls at the hands a male gang some people await the race and colour with relish. Surely you should care more about men abusing girls rather than what heritage those men are......child abuse cant be any worse than it already is can it?Would you like a hanky to wipe away the spittle from the corner of your mouth?
Blame the girls? Are you really saying 'they are asking for it'?
Just because a girl is outdoors after dark she isn't giving her consent to be raped you know.
Address the behaviour of the offenders and stop looking for ways to excuse their behaviour.
Some child abusers go for jobs where they wil come in contact with children , schools , youth clubs , scouts etc, they are planning their life around their needs and fantasies. Many of my colleagues doubt Asian men are choosing to work as taxi drivers or fast food joints just to get access to children, they are opportunists, so therefore remove the vunerable child from the equation and abuse won't happen or is obviously less likely to happen. So stopping vunerable children walking to streets is a sure way to stop that . It's very very complex. but to suggest its cultural only is wrong, nothing in that culture suggests child abuse and sex with children is ' a cultural thing' , it's men getting easy gratification from vunerable girls that society didn't give a fig about...
you need only see how long Savile went about his child abuse freely to see that we don't look after vunerable young children that well. Savile infact most likely chose his roles for his sexual leanings. It's too complex. But had people protected those girls from Savile then many lives would of Been saved from ruin. Stopping abuse happening is whether you like it or not about stopping the children being in that place at that time unprotected. Stopping the abuser is harder to do as they are masters at covering it up.
Edited by bobdole on Sunday 9th December 20:01
Can you provide a list of all ages and acceptable hours from the age of 13 upwards please.
I'm just trying to figure how being allowed out of the house makes a girl a slut or a candidate for rape regardless of the colour of the offender.
Girls and women of all ages should be free to walk the streets in safety free from grooming etc.
To appease your PC nature, find me a similar white gang or accept that it's happening however uncomfortable it makes you.
Lost_BMW said:
andymadmak said:
bobdole said:
I know this as I'm a psychiatrist.
God help your patients if that is true. Which I doubt. BliarOut said:
To appease your PC nature, find me a similar white gang or accept that it's happening however uncomfortable it makes you.
I have asked him that twice now but all you get is PC squirming.if he is looking for someone to call a racist, I will take one for the team, if it lets him get it off his chest and makes him fell better about himself, just as long as he f
ks off afterwords.BliarOut said:
bobdole said:
BliarOut said:
bobdole said:
Marf said:
I've read it thanks, something you seem to be failing to do. You appear to skim over people's posts, take offense no matter what they've read then go off on a froth mouthed rant at them.
Would you like a hanky to wipe away the spittle from the corner of your mouth?
Not once have i ranted, not once. Im calm as anything thanks trying to get a simple answer as to why when faced with a terrible story about abuse of young girls at the hands a male gang some people await the race and colour with relish. Surely you should care more about men abusing girls rather than what heritage those men are......child abuse cant be any worse than it already is can it?Would you like a hanky to wipe away the spittle from the corner of your mouth?
Blame the girls? Are you really saying 'they are asking for it'?
Just because a girl is outdoors after dark she isn't giving her consent to be raped you know.
Address the behaviour of the offenders and stop looking for ways to excuse their behaviour.
Some child abusers go for jobs where they wil come in contact with children , schools , youth clubs , scouts etc, they are planning their life around their needs and fantasies. Many of my colleagues doubt Asian men are choosing to work as taxi drivers or fast food joints just to get access to children, they are opportunists, so therefore remove the vunerable child from the equation and abuse won't happen or is obviously less likely to happen. So stopping vunerable children walking to streets is a sure way to stop that . It's very very complex. but to suggest its cultural only is wrong, nothing in that culture suggests child abuse and sex with children is ' a cultural thing' , it's men getting easy gratification from vunerable girls that society didn't give a fig about...
you need only see how long Savile went about his child abuse freely to see that we don't look after vunerable young children that well. Savile infact most likely chose his roles for his sexual leanings. It's too complex. But had people protected those girls from Savile then many lives would of Been saved from ruin. Stopping abuse happening is whether you like it or not about stopping the children being in that place at that time unprotected. Stopping the abuser is harder to do as they are masters at covering it up.
Edited by bobdole on Sunday 9th December 20:01
Can you provide a list of all ages and acceptable hours from the age of 13 upwards please.
I'm just trying to figure how being allowed out of the house makes a girl a slut or a candidate for rape regardless of the colour of the offender.
Girls and women of all ages should be free to walk the streets in safety free from grooming etc.
To appease your PC nature, find me a similar white gang or accept that it's happening however uncomfortable it makes you.
If a child is in care then people around them are tasked to protect them. Duty of care would sensibly suggest that allowing a 12 year old to go out on the streets till the early hours is pretty risky is it not? Would you rather we advise children to go out from 10 upwards late at night? would you not tell your kids about talking to strangers, getting in cars with men? drinking?
I do as much as I possibly can to make sure my daughter is safe, surely that's the least we should expect for a vunerable child in care to have too, surely?
These children are let down by parents, social workers police and the men who abuse them. Totally let down.
Edited by bobdole on Sunday 9th December 21:23
bobdole said:
Lost_BMW said:
andymadmak said:
bobdole said:
I know this as I'm a psychiatrist.
God help your patients if that is true. Which I doubt. If it isn't a cultural problem why did a group of Asian males from South Yorkshire rent a house on Teesside and use it to 'entertain' teenage girls from a town where none of the men involved had connections with families or Asian business owners in the town?
Why are other similar houses on the radar of local agencies inhabited by people who are not of white British origin in a town with 96+ % of residents who are white?
Yes white men rape and abuse girls, but they're less likely to use children as meat for their friends and cousins to share.
Why are other similar houses on the radar of local agencies inhabited by people who are not of white British origin in a town with 96+ % of residents who are white?
Yes white men rape and abuse girls, but they're less likely to use children as meat for their friends and cousins to share.
bobdole said:
What are you on ? ratalin?
If a child is in care then people around them are tasked to protect them. Duty of care would sensibly suggest that allowing a 12 year old to go out on the streets till the early hours is pretty risky is it not? Would you rather we advise children to go out from 10 upwards late at night? would you not tell your kids about talking to strangers, getting in cars with men? drinking?
I do as much as I possibly can to make sure my daughter is safe, surely that's the least we should expect for a vunerable child in care to have too, surely?
These children are let down by parents, social workers police and the men who abuse them. Totally let down.
Would you say the same if it was your daughter they were grooming and fIf a child is in care then people around them are tasked to protect them. Duty of care would sensibly suggest that allowing a 12 year old to go out on the streets till the early hours is pretty risky is it not? Would you rather we advise children to go out from 10 upwards late at night? would you not tell your kids about talking to strangers, getting in cars with men? drinking?
I do as much as I possibly can to make sure my daughter is safe, surely that's the least we should expect for a vunerable child in care to have too, surely?
These children are let down by parents, social workers police and the men who abuse them. Totally let down.
Edited by bobdole on Sunday 9th December 21:23
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