"I've just broken the Geneva convention"

[pete a]

TVR1 said:

At least try and Google The Hague.

You are fking pathetic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court

Thanks for the insult, typical tactic of a cock, shout loudly your cause and attempt to discredit anyone with a differing view.

Ps . If you read the above you will see I have tried to calm this little tiff down and not get into a slanging match.

As for you fk off you fking prick calling me pathetic because I disagree with you you fking keyboard warrior.

Edited as its not a left / right issue.

Edited by pete a on Saturday 9th November 23:58

[rohrl]

pete a said:

Thanks for the insult, typical tactic of the left, shout loudly your cause and attempt to discredit anyone with a differing view.

That's a red herring. This is not a left/right issue and neither right or left wingers have a monopoly on insults, shouting or rudeness.

[TVR1]

pete a said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Crimina...

Thanks for the insult, typical tactic of the left, shout loudly your cause and attempt to discredit anyone with a differing view.

Ps . If you read the above you will see I have tried to calm this little tiff down and not get into a slanging match.

As for you fk off you fking prick calling me pathetic because I disagree with you you fking keyboard warrior.

I did indeed read the above.

The problem is, that you don't even have the balls to stand by your misguided position.

Rather, upon learning that one of the posters has more experience of these things than you, you went into 'sorry boss, I didn't mean to offend' mode.

And still, you won't answer the question?

Do you, or do you not, find it acceptable to execute unarmed, wounded, neutralised opponents in battle?

Yes or no?

[TVR1]

Oh, BTW pete, leftie?

I'm so far to the right that I'm in the Southern Ocean,

Even New Zealand is lefter than I.

[pete a]

[quote=pete

Should he have shot the Taliban chap, NO
Was it under circumstances where his mates had been dismembered and had body parts hung out of trees recently. YES
Am I bothered that he killed him. NO
Do I think we should have prosecuted him instead of making the video disappear NO
[/quote]


I thought I had answered your question on the post above which I know you read, so NO I don't think it's fine to do it, but I do think that the situation has to be looked at as the bigger picture, if you break into my house and beat me to death on purpose then it's murder, agreed.

The bigger picture here is that this marines pals have been killed and mutilated by the Taliban fighters with no regard for the Geneva convention, he's just had the st shot out of him by an apache gunship and if nursed back to health would be delighted to behead marine A on film for all to see, this is not some young conscript we are talking about but a fully radicalised Taliban fighter or enemy combatant as our allies would lead us to belive and the Geneva convention didn't apply when they were being renditioned to Cuba for a spot of torture.

Maybe he should have been given a medical discharge or something instead as I can't imagine this is very good for morale with currently serving marines in Helmand, oh and the marine who saved the footage must be very popular right now as well.

Anyhow I don't expect to change your mind ,nor am I trying to I don't feel the need to call you pathetic because you hold a different opinion either, I do object to you giving me personal insults for not agreeing with you though.

[TVR1]

pete a said:

I thought I had answered your question on the post above which I know you read, so NO I don't think it's fine to do it, but I do think that the situation has to be looked at as the bigger picture, if you break into my house and beat me to death on purpose then it's murder, agreed.

The bigger picture here is that this marines pals have been killed and mutilated by the Taliban fighters with no regard for the Geneva convention, he's just had the st shot out of him by an apache gunship and if nursed back to health would be delighted to behead marine A on film for all to see, this is not some young conscript we are talking about but a fully radicalised Taliban fighter or enemy combatant as our allies would lead us to belive and the Geneva convention didn't apply when they were being renditioned to Cuba for a spot of torture.

Maybe he should have been given a medical discharge or something instead as I can't imagine this is very good for morale with currently serving marines in Helmand, oh and the marine who saved the footage must be very popular right now as well.

Anyhow I don't expect to change your mind ,nor am I trying to I don't feel the need to call you pathetic because you hold a different opinion either, I do object to you giving me personal insults for not agreeing with you though.

As misguided and unable to format correctly, why don't you pop yourself over to this thread and read the replies.

You may be enlightened.

http://www.arrse.co.uk/current-affairs-news-analys...

[DonnyMac]

Gandahar said:

I posted this link on that Facebook page, as a good counterpoint

http://projects.militarytimes.com/citations-medals...

But it will be drowned out in the static no doubt.

I haven't got close to the end of this thread, but thank you.

Thank you.

[TVR1]

DonnyMac said:

Gandahar said:

I posted this link on that Facebook page, as a good counterpoint

http://projects.militarytimes.com/citations-medals...

But it will be drowned out in the static no doubt.

I haven't got close to the end of this thread, but thank you.

Thank you.

I hope, if I was in that situation, that is how I would conduct myself.

Thank you for quoting the post Donny.

[TheSnitch]

pete a said:

I do object to you giving me personal insults for not agreeing with you though.

Considering your contribution to this thread has included your opening foray :

pete a said:

Wow there are a lot more cus cus eaters here than I imagined, it's war , they are trained to kill and dumped the other side of the world to kill Taliban , then they kill one at the wrong moment and you lot are all "that's really not the spirit of things dear chap, we like our killing done nice and sportingly on our behalf"

....this gem:

pete a said:

Have you worn the badge that you suggest he has disgraced?

....and this:

pete a said:

As for you fk off you fking prick calling me pathetic because I disagree with you you fking keyboard warrior.

...I would suggest you have a fking nerve, mate.

[Big Al.]

OK guys enough bhing, continue and lose your ability to post on the thread.

No more warnings!

As you were......

[Muntu]

Jasandjules said:

However that said, I believe we lost all ability to claim any moral superiority when Guantanamo Bay exists.

Fear not, President Obama fully agrees with you, and he is going to close it within a year of taking office.

[BOR]

I'll just leave this here...

Tim Collins said:

....The enemy should be in no doubt that we are his nemesis and that we are bringing about his rightful destruction. There are many regional commanders who have stains on their souls and they are stoking the fires of hell for Saddam. He and his forces will be destroyed by this coalition for what they have done. As they die they will know their deeds have brought them to this place. Show them no pity.

It is a big step to take another human life. It is not to be done lightly. I know of men who have taken life needlessly in other conflicts, I can assure you they live with the Mark of Cain upon them. If someone surrenders to you then remember they have that right in international law and ensure that one day they go home to their family.

The ones who wish to fight, well, we aim to please.

If you harm the regiment or its history by over-enthusiasm in killing or in cowardice, know it is your family who will suffer. You will be shunned unless your conduct is of the highest for your deeds will follow you down through history. We will bring shame on neither our uniform or our nation.

[onyx39]

BOR said:

I'll just leave this here...

Tim Collins said:

....The enemy should be in no doubt that we are his nemesis and that we are bringing about his rightful destruction. There are many regional commanders who have stains on their souls and they are stoking the fires of hell for Saddam. He and his forces will be destroyed by this coalition for what they have done. As they die they will know their deeds have brought them to this place. Show them no pity.

It is a big step to take another human life. It is not to be done lightly. I know of men who have taken life needlessly in other conflicts, I can assure you they live with the Mark of Cain upon them. If someone surrenders to you then remember they have that right in international law and ensure that one day they go home to their family.

The ones who wish to fight, well, we aim to please.

If you harm the regiment or its history by over-enthusiasm in killing or in cowardice, know it is your family who will suffer. You will be shunned unless your conduct is of the highest for your deeds will follow you down through history. We will bring shame on neither our uniform or our nation.

Was that part of the speech that he gave to British Forces at the same time as the yanks were doing one featuring rock videos saying something along the lines of we will kick arse?

[andymc]

Has this ever happened in the USA? I'm curious as to how the Yanks would handle it?

[onyx39]

andymc said:

Has this ever happened in the USA? I'm curious as to how the Yanks would handle it?

http://rt.com/usa/soldier-life-prison-afghans-killing-920/

[Patrick Bateman]

That's civilians though in fairness.

[catso]

Symbolica said:

This wasn't some "Heat of the moment" decision, it was cold blooded.

So a bit like declaring war on a country that has done us no harm then...

[Zoobeef]

catso said:

So a bit like declaring war on a country that has done us no harm then...

Hahaha, pretty sure we are working with the afghan government and police and military. Not at war with the country.

[V8 Fettler]

Zoobeef said:

catso said:

So a bit like declaring war on a country that has done us no harm then...

Hahaha, pretty sure we are working with the afghan government and police and military. Not at war with the country.

Taliban were the Afghan government in 2001

[Zoobeef]

V8 Fettler said:

Zoobeef said:

catso said:

So a bit like declaring war on a country that has done us no harm then...

Hahaha, pretty sure we are working with the afghan government and police and military. Not at war with the country.

Taliban were the Afghan government in 2001

So you can't say have done us no harm.