Teacher Stabbed to Death

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Chlamydia

1,082 posts

129 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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dave_s13 said:
To add, I went to a Catholic high school in Leeds and come from a 'broken home', that actually broke down about age 14. I gave the teachers some stick but didn't kill any of them.
Absolutely. In my Form at school out of a class of thirty kids only three of us came from homes that weren't "broken". None of them turned into psychopaths. The biggest, most evil nutter in my school, whose favourite jape was to slash people with a Stanley knife, lived at home with his parents who ran a charity shop.

lamboman100

1,445 posts

123 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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This looks like an isolated case of severe mental illness.

With luck -- provided there are no copycat attacks in the coming months -- there will not be another tragic incident like this for a further ~20 years (they roll around every couple decades, it seems). And the killer will get locked up in a secure hozza with proper medical treatment for at least the next 40 years.

Apache

39,731 posts

286 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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lamboman100 said:
This looks like an isolated case of severe mental illness.

With luck -- provided there are no copycat attacks in the coming months -- there will not be another tragic incident like this for a further ~20 years (they roll around every couple decades, it seems). And the killer will get locked up in a secure hozza with proper medical treatment for at least the next 40 years.
I'd agree with that, my daughter lives 50 yards from the school, fortunately my grandson goes to another school, but she knows the teacher, boy and the families involved.

Halb

53,012 posts

185 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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ADM06 said:
Why is "introvert" being thrown around like it's an insult? "Extrovert" is really just a nicer way of saying someone is loud and borish.
Or 'tt'. biggrin

Digga

40,488 posts

285 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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anonymous said:
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I've never been a computer games type but did, a good while back, by a Playstation, primarily for the Gran Tourismo games (IMHO bad for your driving, but good for 'learning' the basic layouts of new circuits) and had a few "shoot 'em up" games also. I did find them strangely addictive and also felt that the violence and the platform format (which forces you to concentrate even deeper into the game in order to discover new levels) could cause a sort of trance-like state. Hours could go by without you really registering the passage of time.

A mate talks about his own, young son getting the same sort of withdrawal from the outside world with non-violent games too. For impressionable people, I really do believe they are dangerous and the money argument is as incidental as that of alcohol or tobacco.

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Agreed, although the violence is more usually in context and I think it's pretty rare to see dysfunctional teenagers with their heads stuck in novels of any genre.

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

172 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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I must of lost my mind, the teacher didn't deserve to lose her life, her murder is a sad loss.

However, the way the media and some posters here have portrayed what must of been someone either extremely ill or had lost it.

Why does turning this horror show into a black and white baddie killing goodie help?

dave_s13

13,826 posts

271 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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I think blaming computer games is just the usual knee jerk, hand wringing, daily mail reaction and we all know it's a load of old bollarks.

However, some of the stuff you can freely access on the internet is genuinely disturbing. When I was a teenager you couldn't look up videos of real people being killed in horrific and disturbing ways. The best you could ever hope for was an old copy of razzle behind a bush in the park. I do wonder if exposure to that sort of thing could influence somebody that's already disturbed and prompt them into action.

Ali G

3,526 posts

284 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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dave_s13 said:
I think blaming computer games is just the usual knee jerk, hand wringing, daily mail reaction and we all know it's a load of old bollarks.

However, some of the stuff you can freely access on the internet is genuinely disturbing. When I was a teenager you couldn't look up videos of real people being killed in horrific and disturbing ways. The best you could ever hope for was an old copy of razzle behind a bush in the park. I do wonder if exposure to that sort of thing could influence somebody that's already disturbed and prompt them into action.
There is a lot of 'stuff' going on on the internet - some of which is decidedly 'wrong'.

Not sure what can be done about it - but unless parents are savvy - they probably will not have a clue what goes on there. Even if clued up - not sure they can do much other than confiscate internet access and mobile phones (certainly phones with cameras).

But this will only lead to further ostracising and alienation by peer groups.

Still, there is, as yet, no information about what triggered this vile act - and for all parties concerned, there should be no release of any information at all which may prejudice a fair hearing until legal proceedings have taken place.

I have heard that the lad was rather bright, 'though.

This is a sickening occurrence, and all efforts must be made to understand what transpired with a view to minimising the chances of such an event taking place in the future.


darreni

3,858 posts

272 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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Phillip Lawrence's killer to be re released:

http://guernseypress.com/news/uk-news/2014/05/01/h...

I had no idea he had been released before.

Pretty crass timing given events this week.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

286 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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Bit worrying.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wale...

BBC link said:
A teacher who was understood to have been the intended target of an alleged murder plot by two pupils has praised the school's handling of the incident.

Police were called to Cwmcarn High school, Caerphilly county, on Thursday after concerns were raised about the behaviour of two children.

zygalski

7,759 posts

147 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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dave_s13 said:
I think blaming computer games is just the usual knee jerk, hand wringing, daily mail reaction and we all know it's a load of old bollarks.

However, some of the stuff you can freely access on the internet is genuinely disturbing. When I was a teenager you couldn't look up videos of real people being killed in horrific and disturbing ways. The best you could ever hope for was an old copy of razzle behind a bush in the park. I do wonder if exposure to that sort of thing could influence somebody that's already disturbed and prompt them into action.
Forget all this computer game/internet/violence on tv & film etc.
The two most important factors by far are decent parenting & a stable family environment during childhood.

Negative Creep

25,028 posts

229 months

Sunday 4th May 2014
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Digga said:
Agreed, although the violence is more usually in context and I think it's pretty rare to see dysfunctional teenagers with their heads stuck in novels of any genre.
You don't have to go that far back to reach a time where comic books were seen as corrupting youth and polluting morals.

dudleybloke

20,035 posts

188 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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greygoose

8,329 posts

197 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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Sounds like a genuine nut job, I feel sorry for her family and his family too.

kev1974

4,029 posts

131 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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He sounds a really nasty piece of work. I doubt he'll ever get let out.

FredClogs

14,041 posts

163 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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dudleybloke said:
Jeeesus, that's not an easy read, I can't believe there isn't some kind of way of identifying people who are capable or susceptible of this kind of stuff and keeping close tabs on them, from the sounds of it he's not suffering any mental illness just a twisted fk!

Funk

26,363 posts

211 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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The real question in my mind is "why are we going to pay to keep him alive for the next 20+ years?"

I'd have no issue with the death penalty for human garbage like him.

zetec

4,475 posts

253 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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greygoose said:
Sounds like a genuine nut job, I feel sorry for her family and his family too.
Me too.

As a parent, one wonders how you would cope knowing you created a monster like that.

EtcEtc

20,566 posts

174 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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dudleybloke said:
fking little .

dudleybloke

20,035 posts

188 months

Monday 3rd November 2014
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A truly nasty piece of work.