Teacher Stabbed to Death
Discussion
dave_s13 said:
To add, I went to a Catholic high school in Leeds and come from a 'broken home', that actually broke down about age 14. I gave the teachers some stick but didn't kill any of them.
Absolutely. In my Form at school out of a class of thirty kids only three of us came from homes that weren't "broken". None of them turned into psychopaths. The biggest, most evil nutter in my school, whose favourite jape was to slash people with a Stanley knife, lived at home with his parents who ran a charity shop.This looks like an isolated case of severe mental illness.
With luck -- provided there are no copycat attacks in the coming months -- there will not be another tragic incident like this for a further ~20 years (they roll around every couple decades, it seems). And the killer will get locked up in a secure hozza with proper medical treatment for at least the next 40 years.
With luck -- provided there are no copycat attacks in the coming months -- there will not be another tragic incident like this for a further ~20 years (they roll around every couple decades, it seems). And the killer will get locked up in a secure hozza with proper medical treatment for at least the next 40 years.
lamboman100 said:
This looks like an isolated case of severe mental illness.
With luck -- provided there are no copycat attacks in the coming months -- there will not be another tragic incident like this for a further ~20 years (they roll around every couple decades, it seems). And the killer will get locked up in a secure hozza with proper medical treatment for at least the next 40 years.
I'd agree with that, my daughter lives 50 yards from the school, fortunately my grandson goes to another school, but she knows the teacher, boy and the families involved. With luck -- provided there are no copycat attacks in the coming months -- there will not be another tragic incident like this for a further ~20 years (they roll around every couple decades, it seems). And the killer will get locked up in a secure hozza with proper medical treatment for at least the next 40 years.
anonymous said:
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I've never been a computer games type but did, a good while back, by a Playstation, primarily for the Gran Tourismo games (IMHO bad for your driving, but good for 'learning' the basic layouts of new circuits) and had a few "shoot 'em up" games also. I did find them strangely addictive and also felt that the violence and the platform format (which forces you to concentrate even deeper into the game in order to discover new levels) could cause a sort of trance-like state. Hours could go by without you really registering the passage of time.A mate talks about his own, young son getting the same sort of withdrawal from the outside world with non-violent games too. For impressionable people, I really do believe they are dangerous and the money argument is as incidental as that of alcohol or tobacco.
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Agreed, although the violence is more usually in context and I think it's pretty rare to see dysfunctional teenagers with their heads stuck in novels of any genre.I must of lost my mind, the teacher didn't deserve to lose her life, her murder is a sad loss.
However, the way the media and some posters here have portrayed what must of been someone either extremely ill or had lost it.
Why does turning this horror show into a black and white baddie killing goodie help?
However, the way the media and some posters here have portrayed what must of been someone either extremely ill or had lost it.
Why does turning this horror show into a black and white baddie killing goodie help?
I think blaming computer games is just the usual knee jerk, hand wringing, daily mail reaction and we all know it's a load of old bollarks.
However, some of the stuff you can freely access on the internet is genuinely disturbing. When I was a teenager you couldn't look up videos of real people being killed in horrific and disturbing ways. The best you could ever hope for was an old copy of razzle behind a bush in the park. I do wonder if exposure to that sort of thing could influence somebody that's already disturbed and prompt them into action.
However, some of the stuff you can freely access on the internet is genuinely disturbing. When I was a teenager you couldn't look up videos of real people being killed in horrific and disturbing ways. The best you could ever hope for was an old copy of razzle behind a bush in the park. I do wonder if exposure to that sort of thing could influence somebody that's already disturbed and prompt them into action.
dave_s13 said:
I think blaming computer games is just the usual knee jerk, hand wringing, daily mail reaction and we all know it's a load of old bollarks.
However, some of the stuff you can freely access on the internet is genuinely disturbing. When I was a teenager you couldn't look up videos of real people being killed in horrific and disturbing ways. The best you could ever hope for was an old copy of razzle behind a bush in the park. I do wonder if exposure to that sort of thing could influence somebody that's already disturbed and prompt them into action.
There is a lot of 'stuff' going on on the internet - some of which is decidedly 'wrong'.However, some of the stuff you can freely access on the internet is genuinely disturbing. When I was a teenager you couldn't look up videos of real people being killed in horrific and disturbing ways. The best you could ever hope for was an old copy of razzle behind a bush in the park. I do wonder if exposure to that sort of thing could influence somebody that's already disturbed and prompt them into action.
Not sure what can be done about it - but unless parents are savvy - they probably will not have a clue what goes on there. Even if clued up - not sure they can do much other than confiscate internet access and mobile phones (certainly phones with cameras).
But this will only lead to further ostracising and alienation by peer groups.
Still, there is, as yet, no information about what triggered this vile act - and for all parties concerned, there should be no release of any information at all which may prejudice a fair hearing until legal proceedings have taken place.
I have heard that the lad was rather bright, 'though.
This is a sickening occurrence, and all efforts must be made to understand what transpired with a view to minimising the chances of such an event taking place in the future.
Phillip Lawrence's killer to be re released:
http://guernseypress.com/news/uk-news/2014/05/01/h...
I had no idea he had been released before.
Pretty crass timing given events this week.
http://guernseypress.com/news/uk-news/2014/05/01/h...
I had no idea he had been released before.
Pretty crass timing given events this week.
Bit worrying.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wale...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wale...
BBC link said:
A teacher who was understood to have been the intended target of an alleged murder plot by two pupils has praised the school's handling of the incident.
Police were called to Cwmcarn High school, Caerphilly county, on Thursday after concerns were raised about the behaviour of two children.
Police were called to Cwmcarn High school, Caerphilly county, on Thursday after concerns were raised about the behaviour of two children.
dave_s13 said:
I think blaming computer games is just the usual knee jerk, hand wringing, daily mail reaction and we all know it's a load of old bollarks.
However, some of the stuff you can freely access on the internet is genuinely disturbing. When I was a teenager you couldn't look up videos of real people being killed in horrific and disturbing ways. The best you could ever hope for was an old copy of razzle behind a bush in the park. I do wonder if exposure to that sort of thing could influence somebody that's already disturbed and prompt them into action.
Forget all this computer game/internet/violence on tv & film etc.However, some of the stuff you can freely access on the internet is genuinely disturbing. When I was a teenager you couldn't look up videos of real people being killed in horrific and disturbing ways. The best you could ever hope for was an old copy of razzle behind a bush in the park. I do wonder if exposure to that sort of thing could influence somebody that's already disturbed and prompt them into action.
The two most important factors by far are decent parenting & a stable family environment during childhood.
Digga said:
Agreed, although the violence is more usually in context and I think it's pretty rare to see dysfunctional teenagers with their heads stuck in novels of any genre.
You don't have to go that far back to reach a time where comic books were seen as corrupting youth and polluting morals.dudleybloke said:
Jeeesus, that's not an easy read, I can't believe there isn't some kind of way of identifying people who are capable or susceptible of this kind of stuff and keeping close tabs on them, from the sounds of it he's not suffering any mental illness just a twisted f
k! dudleybloke said:
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