Even the middle classes are beginning to feel the pinch

Even the middle classes are beginning to feel the pinch

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Derek Chevalier

3,942 posts

175 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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RYH64E said:
Putting two kids through private school costs about £25k per year,
Would have thought it was nearer 35k in south east

RYH64E

7,960 posts

246 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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Derek Chevalier said:
RYH64E said:
Putting two kids through private school costs about £25k per year,
Would have thought it was nearer 35k in south east
£25k is what it costs me, in the South East.

Derek Chevalier

3,942 posts

175 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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RYH64E said:
Derek Chevalier said:
RYH64E said:
Putting two kids through private school costs about £25k per year,
Would have thought it was nearer 35k in south east
£25k is what it costs me, in the South East.
Must be a Surrey tax, as last time I checked fees were over £5k per term!

RYH64E

7,960 posts

246 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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Derek Chevalier said:
Must be a Surrey tax, as last time I checked fees were over £5k per term!
I've just checked, fees here start at £10.4k in the Prep School (I didn't send mine to Prep) rising to £12.5k in years 7 and 8 and £13.7k years 9 to 13. So as little as £20.8k for two young kids and as much as £27.4k for two older ones. I've never had a discount for two (a BOGOF would have been nice...), but one of mine was awarded an academic scholarship (out of the blue) saving me 30% on his fees.

superkartracer

8,959 posts

224 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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fblm said:
superkartracer said:
OH , she went to a state school in Solihull , gained 4 A's ( A* A levels math/physics/chem etc) aged 14 and straight to Oxford , smart girl and again shows you don't need to spend money on private schooling .
All it shows is that very smart kids will probably do well regardless of schooling which is not really surprising. Also not surprising is if you pay up you get smaller class sizes and average kids get better than average results... that's the point.
Yeah but my son is on target for A/A* in a rammed State school , he's just a normal kid ( as stated in previous post ) , here have some dots ....

All good and leaves me with extra cash smile

Hol

8,429 posts

202 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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What would the impact be to the state school system if say 50% of public school children suddenly swapped over.

You wouldn't be able to stop them, because they are tax payers. But how would the system cope?

vonuber

17,868 posts

167 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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MC Bodge

22,019 posts

177 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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Hol said:
What would the impact be to the state school system if say 50% of public school children suddenly swapped over.

You wouldn't be able to stop them, because they are tax payers. But how would the system cope?
I don't think that anyone is suggesting that people shouldn't send their children to fee paying schools, if that is what they wish to spend their money on.

To imply that doing so is some sort of philanthropic gesture to relieve the state education system is stretching the limits of rs of credulity, though....

otolith

56,850 posts

206 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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vonuber

17,868 posts

167 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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otolith said:
Wouldn't be worth it to me either, but then I don't like London, wouldn't want to live there, and the lifestyle a person who can earn 100k in London can have for what they can earn elsewhere appeals more. The wage premium, after accounting for the living costs differential, is not worth it.
Me and the other half seem to manage perfectly fine with a joint income just over 100k, with a kid and having two flats in zone 2.

Randy Winkman

16,529 posts

191 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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Jasandjules

70,036 posts

231 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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Well, to put it simply, they can reduce their lifestyle. Make a few "sacrifices" for their kids. Problem solved.

It is hardly like they are choosing between them eating or their child eating each day.

turbobloke

104,641 posts

262 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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BrassMan

1,491 posts

191 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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Hol said:
What would the impact be to the state school system if say 50% of public school children suddenly swapped over.

You wouldn't be able to stop them, because they are tax payers. But how would the system cope?
Good question. Where would they get trained teachers from?

turbobloke

104,641 posts

262 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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Sheepshanks

33,222 posts

121 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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To be fair if the couple were public servants you'd have already pointed out the value of their pensions and holidays to their package.

Derek Chevalier

3,942 posts

175 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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otolith

56,850 posts

206 months

Saturday 21st November 2015
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vonuber said:
otolith said:
Wouldn't be worth it to me either, but then I don't like London, wouldn't want to live there, and the lifestyle a person who can earn 100k in London can have for what they can earn elsewhere appeals more. The wage premium, after accounting for the living costs differential, is not worth it.
Me and the other half seem to manage perfectly fine with a joint income just over 100k, with a kid and having two flats in zone 2.
I'd rather have the lifestyle you and your partner could have outside London, but then you probably like the place - it's my idea of hell.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

200 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Hol said:
What would the impact be to the state school system if say 50% of public school children suddenly swapped over.

You wouldn't be able to stop them, because they are tax payers. But how would the system cope?
More importantly what would the impact be to state schools if everyone stopped using private schools.

Billions more annual cost plus where would the new schools be built

turbobloke

104,641 posts

262 months

Sunday 22nd November 2015
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Welshbeef said:
Hol said:
What would the impact be to the state school system if say 50% of public school children suddenly swapped over.

You wouldn't be able to stop them, because they are tax payers. But how would the system cope?
More importantly what would the impact be to state schools if everyone stopped using private schools.

Billions more annual cost plus where would the new schools be built
On the capital side there would be quite a few buildings which previously housed independent schools, they might not be asking top dollar having gone bust through not having any pupils (in this scenario). On the recurrent funding and cost side, class sizes would take a hit to save money on teachers, even down to the size-sacrosanct infant classes.